First Karate Kid, now Annie

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#29
burntorangeVOLffle said:
They did this to the Wizard of Oz long before Karate Kid.
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I don't mind them remaking films like The Wizard of Oz or The Karate Kid and recasting because ethnicity is not important to the concept of the films. The concept of Annie is a young girl being adopted by a millionaire. It's set prior to WWII so the orphanage system fits into the movie. Due to the concept, Annie must be white. You can move The Wiz forward in time and Dorothy's ethnicity doesn't matter. With Annie, if you move the concept forward in time, you run into the problem that most orphanages began closing after WWII in favor of foster care which dramatically changes the concept IMO. In order for a black cast to be realistic, the movie would have to be set no earlier than the '70's, though the '80's would work better. Then you have the previously mentioned change in how orphans are handled. You have to adjust the film for that. Once you do that, then you're establishing a movie that may have its roots in Annie, but you've changed it enough that you might as well give it an original title of its own.

It's not that I mind seeing movies remade where previously white characters are recast as black characters, but it should make some kind of sense, and in this case, it doesn't really make sense.
 
#30
#30
I'm thinking they could make a truly great satire if they remade Birth of a Nation with an all black cast though.
 
#34
#34
Weezer said:
I'm thinking they could make a truly great satire if they remade Birth of a Nation with an all black cast though.
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Abraham Lincoln: poo tang slayer.

Essentially the same plot as the ladies man, except set in the mid nineteenth century.
 
#35
#35
Weezer said:
I don't mind them remaking films like The Wizard of Oz or The Karate Kid and recasting because ethnicity is not important to the concept of the films. The concept of Annie is a young girl being adopted by a millionaire. It's set prior to WWII so the orphanage system fits into the movie. Due to the concept, Annie must be white. You can move The Wiz forward in time and Dorothy's ethnicity doesn't matter. With Annie, if you move the concept forward in time, you run into the problem that most orphanages began closing after WWII in favor of foster care which dramatically changes the concept IMO. In order for a black cast to be realistic, the movie would have to be set no earlier than the '70's, though the '80's would work better. Then you have the previously mentioned change in how orphans are handled. You have to adjust the film for that. Once you do that, then you're establishing a movie that may have its roots in Annie, but you've changed it enough that you might as well give it an original title of its own.

It's not that I mind seeing movies remade where previously white characters are recast as black characters, but it should make some kind of sense, and in this case, it doesn't really make sense.
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Diff'rent strokes....
 
#36
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Daloth said:
I don't think this movie will be terrible, not great, but not terrible. Kinda like Karate Kid was.

I think Jamie Foxx will save this movie like Jackie Chan did the Karate Kid, though I also don't think Cameron Diaz can pull off the mean she needs to be Mrs. Hannigan properly (though comedic wise she seems to be fine)
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Karate Kid was terrible. I'd rather watch Karate Kid 3 100 times in a row with Robocop 3 and The Guyver playing in the background. Will Smith's kid couldn't act his way out of his socks.
 
#37
#37
FLVOL_79 said:
Karate Kid was terrible. I'd rather watch Karate Kid 3 100 times in a row with Robocop 3 and The Guyver playing in the background. Will Smith's kid couldn't act his way out of his socks.
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He was good playing a little kid in The Pursuit of Happyness. But he was awful in After Earth.

Sadly they're making a Karate Kid 2.
 
#38
#38
Who cares if she's black? The problem with this movie is remakes should only be made when you can improve on the original (special effects) or completely re-imagine.
 
#40
#40
FLVOL_79 said:
Karate Kid was terrible. I'd rather watch Karate Kid 3 100 times in a row with Robocop 3 and The Guyver playing in the background. Will Smith's kid couldn't act his way out of his socks.
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It wasn't nearly as bad as you're making it out to be. Made 360 mill on a 40 mill budget, that alone is considered a good success.

Like I said, not a great movie, but far from terrible.
 
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Daloth said:
It wasn't nearly as bad as you're making it out to be. Made 360 mill on a 40 mill budget, that alone is considered a good success.

Like I said, not a great movie, but far from terrible.
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It was good for its target audience of 7-12 year old boys.
 
#43
#43
Weezer said:
I don't mind them remaking films like The Wizard of Oz or The Karate Kid and recasting because ethnicity is not important to the concept of the films. The concept of Annie is a young girl being adopted by a millionaire. It's set prior to WWII so the orphanage system fits into the movie. Due to the concept, Annie must be white. You can move The Wiz forward in time and Dorothy's ethnicity doesn't matter. With Annie, if you move the concept forward in time, you run into the problem that most orphanages began closing after WWII in favor of foster care which dramatically changes the concept IMO. In order for a black cast to be realistic, the movie would have to be set no earlier than the '70's, though the '80's would work better. Then you have the previously mentioned change in how orphans are handled. You have to adjust the film for that. Once you do that, then you're establishing a movie that may have its roots in Annie, but you've changed it enough that you might as well give it an original title of its own.

It's not that I mind seeing movies remade where previously white characters are recast as black characters, but it should make some kind of sense, and in this case, it doesn't really make sense.
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ooops, missed this!
 
#44
#44
wildnkrazykat said:
The kid doesn't bother me. Cameron Diaz might be a stretch
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I'm wondering what Diaz is suppose to be in this movie.

I'm mostly damn shocked I see a trailer for this movie in May, or early may when amazing spider 2 was released when summer hasn't even started.
Seems as logical as thanksgiving advertisements n April, or may, or college football season advertisements when mlb starts.

Hollywood doesn't want to take chances on originality so they keep reusing what's already been done, and proven successful.
Hoping jaws doesn't get remade that's a masterpiece that shouldn't be touched.
 
#45
#45
firestorm said:
I'm wondering what Diaz is suppose to be in this movie.

I'm mostly damn shocked I see a trailer for this movie in May, or early may when amazing spider 2 was released when summer hasn't even started.
Seems as logical as thanksgiving advertisements n April, or may, or college football season advertisements when mlb starts.

Hollywood doesn't want to take chances on originality so they keep reusing what's already been done, and proven successful.
Hoping jaws doesn't get remade that's a masterpiece that shouldn't be touched.
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Oooooooohhhh......

Bad news on Jaws. Remake in the works, only this time he's not a Great White shark.



































:birgits_giggle:
 
#46
#46
Weezer said:
Oooooooohhhh......

Bad news on Jaws. Remake in the works, only this time he's not a Great White shark.
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Do NOT mess w/ Jaws. Anyone who has ever tried their hand at screenwriting knows that it's a masterpiece that shouldn't be tampered with. That said, they'll probably screw it up..
 
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#47
MphsBlues said:
Do NOT mess w/ Jaws. Anyone who has ever tried their hand at screenwriting knows that it's a masterpiece that shouldn't be tampered with. That said, they'll probably screw it up..
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As far as I know, they're not remaking Jaws. I just had to throw in the joke about the Great White shark.
 
#48
#48
So, what happens when they remake Shaft with a white actor?
 
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#49
MphsBlues said:
Do NOT mess w/ Jaws. Anyone who has ever tried their hand at screenwriting knows that it's a masterpiece that shouldn't be tampered with. That said, they'll probably screw it up..
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Aren't there like 7 Jaws movies? Didn't they do it in 3D?
 
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