First year head coaches rankings by athlon

#26
#26
ShowSomePride said:
I'd give Kliff Kingsbury 1st honestly. He's doing great things down at Texas Tech and he's quickly becoming one of the hottest names in college football coaching. I know Tech is his alma mater, but I could totally see him hired to an SEC position in the next few years.
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KK is like the anti-Kiffin. Young guy with the cool factor, good with Xs and Os, except actually likable and good at his job. He was a great hire for Texas Tech.

Seeing as they are his alma mater, I don't think he's in a hurry to leave TT, but Muschamp's job isn't looking too stable at the moment. Imagine what he could do with the talent they bring in at Florida. I don't even want to think about it.
 
#27
#27
I agree with the Malzahn and Kingsbury rankings. Those guys are killing it. I'd put them just a notch ahead of Jones right now.

I'd debate putting Andersen ahead of Jones. Who has he beaten that any average coach there wouldn't have?

I don't understand putting Addazio ahead of Jones, that's a joke, right?

With Carey and Helfrich, I don't know how you make the determination. They inherited programs that were rolling and they continue to do so. Like Larry Coker, I think you have to wait a couple years before you can really see what they're bringing to the program.

For everyone saying that Malzahn inherited Alabama-level talent, I thought our average star ranking was pretty similar to their's? I thought I read that on here, but maybe the poster was mistaken. Auburn was certainly as bad last year as we've ever been.
 
#28
#28
BS, look at the schedules. You can't grade a coach on wins when some as a more favorable schedule.
 
#30
#30
KBVol said:
Disagree with Gus not inheriting talent. He, by far, has the most talent of any new SEC coach for sure. We'll see this firsthand in a few weeks and Auburn will be difficult to beat because of it. Plus, he's a good coach returning to the school that he helped recruit to just a couple years ago. Unique, positive situation for him and the barn.
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You read my mind. Gus recruited many of these players on offense because they fit the system that Chud/Gus was running. No real hiccup on offense when Gus took over. More to the point, it shows how much Cam meant to Aubbie versus Chud (like this wasn't obvious). That Aubbie team would have struggled to win 6 games with Chud as HC and without Cam.
 
#31
#31
NashVOL93 said:
KK is like the anti-Kiffin. Young guy with the cool factor, good with Xs and Os, except actually likable and good at his job. He was a great hire for Texas Tech.

Seeing as they are his alma mater, I don't think he's in a hurry to leave TT, but Muschamp's job isn't looking too stable at the moment. Imagine what he could do with the talent they bring in at Florida. I don't even want to think about it.
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We have Butch. Why are you worried about some young punk like KK?
 
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#32
#32
ShowSomePride said:
I'd give Kliff Kingsbury 1st honestly. He's doing great things down at Texas Tech and he's quickly becoming one of the hottest names in college football coaching. I know Tech is his alma mater, but I could totally see him hired to an SEC position in the next few years.
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Not taking anything away from his coaching abilities- he has done wonders with his QB's. I think one is a walk-on. However, their schedule is backloaded. They have 5 games left with 4 (OU, OSU, Texas, Baylor) being in the top 5 of the conference. They played no one OOC.

They could easily end up 8-4.
 
#34
#34
salutethehill said:
I would suspect Vol fans would know better than most that recruiting rankings aren't the be all, end all of cfb. You cannot truly evaluate a recruiting class until the recruits have been here a few years.

Sure, the odds on a highly ranked class turning out well are good, but we've had some colossal failures here at UT.
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Yes, and also some colossal failures in coaching decisions, going back to the last long-term regime. A recruiting class usually has a pretty large attrition rate over four years and that has to be considered as well. Johnny Majors first recruiting class had only five of his first 30 or so signees remaining after four years, and it was a pretty highly ranked class initially.
 
#35
#35
BigZiti09 said:
Gus Malzahn inherited talent. The last coach just botched it.
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As true as it is, to run his system, he didn't have the talent. He needed a two freshmen qb's to run it this year and look at them now. You can have all the talent you want at ten positions on offense. However, if you have crappy talent at that 11th spot, you suck. They did suck because they had zero qb talent after Scam Newton.
 
#36
#36
Aesius said:
We have Butch. Why are you worried about some young punk like KK?
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Chill out, hoss. Butch is awesome, but this is a thread about first-year college football head coaches in general and Kliff Kingsbury falls into that category. Furthermore, it's entirely relevant to UT if another SEC coaching spot were to come open and KK is hired to fill it. So, take your censoring of my pointless message-board speculation elsewhere.
 
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#38
#38
BigZiti09 said:
Gus Malzahn inherited talent. The last coach just botched it.
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While I agree that he inherited a lot of talent, you can not deny that Malzahn is a great coach and has done an awesome job at Auburn. I would not trade Butch for him, but I would still be very happy having Malzahn as our coach if Butch were not here. Just my 2 cents.
 
#39
#39
All variables such as inherited talent, injuries, etc. cannot be completely accounted for although he takes somewhat of a stab at it. AR had crap to work with while AUB was well stocked.

It will take a few years to learn who the home runs really are, but some of my money is on the dude at CO.
 
#41
#41
I dont agree with a few of the coachs ahead of Jones. I beleive if Tennessee was playing Wisconsins schedule we could easily be 6-1, heck if we played auburns schedule we would 6-1 or 5-2. just my opinion of course
 
#42
#42
B+ seems fair. We've had three pretty bad games along with two games in which you could say our coaching staff has outcoached the opposition. I don't know that you can take much either way from the other two.
 
#44
#44
hikermanvol said:
Maybe I'm being too much of a homer here, but I think Butch deserves better than a B+. The columnist didn't consider his recruiting, which has far exceeded expectations, or how he has re-energized the fan base and how he has successfully brought former players back into the fold. Given where Tennessee was just less than a year ago, he earns an A+ in my book!
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Also, take in considerating our strength of schedule and how long we have been down.
 
#45
#45
hikermanvol said:
Maybe I'm being too much of a homer here, but I think Butch deserves better than a B+. The columnist didn't consider his recruiting, which has far exceeded expectations, or how he has re-energized the fan base and how he has successfully brought former players back into the fold. Given where Tennessee was just less than a year ago, he earns an A+ in my book!
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It does not make a damn what grade they give the BUTCHER just piss him off to go out and cut some throats.:)
 
#46
#46
VolGee4 said:
Not taking anything away from his coaching abilities- he has done wonders with his QB's. I think one is a walk-on. However, their schedule is backloaded. They have 5 games left with 4 (OU, OSU, Texas, Baylor) being in the top 5 of the conference. They played no one OOC.

They could easily end up 8-4.
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Yeah I'd agree with you,I wouldn't be surprised to see them win 2 or 3 of the those 4 you mentioned though
 
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