Five-star SG Anfernee Simons visiting this weekend

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jtipto10 said:
Picks 15-30 (second half of first round) make roughly two million down to one million in their first year with increased of 400k to 500k each year. rookie contracts in the first round are guaranteed 3 years with a 4th year team option (I am less certain about this part).

Either way, no rookie makes 10-20 a year (short of endorsements)

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And insurance policies don't pay annually if the player is injured. I'm saying that if he can get drafted now, even at the bottom of the first round, it's not a good idea to risk losing millions by playing a season in college when he could get injured.
 
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If Simons cant live the rest of his life on 4 million+ somethings wrong.

If he's my kid he's going to the NBA.

You can go to school afterwards.
 
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SweetDaddy said:
If Simons cant live the rest of his life on 4 million+ somethings wrong.

If he's my kid he's going to the NBA.

You can go to school afterwards.
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Yeah, I think UT honors the full scholarship to guys that go pro and want to finish up the degree later.
 
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SweetDaddy said:
If Simons cant live the rest of his life on 4 million+ somethings wrong.

If he's my kid he's going to the NBA.

You can go to school afterwards.
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If he lives 60 more years, 4MIL broke down would only be $66,000 per year not taking into account inflation and rising cost of living.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
So using the above link, let’s say he goes 25th this year...

Year 1: $1,263,500
Year 2: $1,499,700
Year 3: $1,742,500
3 year total: $4,505,700


If he goes 15th after a year of college...

Year 1: $1,971,300
Year 2: $2,339,900
Year 3: $2,734,100
3 year total: $7,045,300
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Unfortunately kids don’t think like that and most adults don’t either. This kid WANTS to go pro.
 
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BigZiti09 said:
Unfortunately kids don’t think like that and most adults don’t either. This kid WANTS to go pro.
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And I get that, but some kids DO think like that...Bridges and Williams are 2 guys right off the top of my head that were projected lottery picks and returned to school.
 
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Thunder Good-Oil said:
That if he's drafted in the first round he's probably going to earn 8 figures in the NBA. He's risking all of it for a year in school.
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His first contract would be exponentially higher if he improves his draft stock, so in theory he could actually make more money over his career by doing that. Just a thought.
 
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Not only is he taking a risk of getting injured, but there's a risk that he'll be exposed as not being as good as projected versus the better competition. Also, what does next year's draft class look like? Are there juniors in high school now that could potentially get drafted as well? What's the outlook for Europeans coming to the NBA? If he can make millions now it's not smart to delay it a year on a gamble that he can make even more later.
 
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Thunder Good-Oil said:
Not only is he taking a risk of getting injured, but there's a risk that he'll be exposed as not being as good as projected versus the better competition. Also, what does next year's draft class look like? Are there juniors in high school now that could potentially get drafted as well? What's the outlook for Europeans coming to the NBA? If he can make millions now it's not smart to delay it a year on a gamble that he can make even more later.
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Nothing is a sure things, plenty of examples of the outcome going either way for guys who have decided to leave early or guys who have decided to return for a year. No right or wrong answer and everyone’s situation is different, I think there’s a valid case for either option.
 
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BigZiti09 said:
No doubt. It could work out better for him if he stays. If he’s the real deal then it’s probably better to go to college.
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If he goes to college he’s basically banking on himself proving he’s much better than the grade he’s given this year, no guarantees but if he’s confident in himself he may feel like he’s a Top 10 pick and not a 25-30 pick.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
If he goes to college he’s basically banking on himself proving he’s much better than the grade he’s given this year, no guarantees but if he’s confident in himself he may feel like he’s a Top 10 pick and not a 25-30 pick.
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Personally I think the kid is gonna go unless it becomes clear he’s going mid to late second round.
 
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BigZiti09 said:
Personally I think the kid is gonna go unless it becomes clear he’s going mid to late second round.
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I think it’s trending that way also...basically sounds like he wants a first round guarantee from someone, if he doesn’t get that he’ll go college route, but my guess is someone will promise him a 1st round pick.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
Or...

3 year total: $4,505,700 vs. 3 year total: $7,045,300

Show him more money...

If it was a no-brainer then everyone would declare early, no?
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Your comparing years 2-4 to years 1-3.

Not everybody is projected to be a first round draftee. How many that turn down the immediate money are 6'3" guards?
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
My issue with this class and why I’m so for Harris is that unless you are recruiting Top 35 ranked guys most players ideally need a year or two to develop, especially if you are taking the model of the 3* guys like we have been. I have long contended that model will work if you don’t have major attrition and those guys can develop, and we are seeing the results this year imo. However you’ve got sophomore and juniors as your major contributors, so to eliminate a drop off when those guys leave you need to have their replacements developing behind them. Right now the 2017 class has Kent, Pons and Walker...the 2018 class has nobody, and even if you add Simons he’s unlikely to be here more than 1 year so long term there’s still nobody in that class. Imo to continue to have 20+ win seasons and continuity you need balance, redshirting Kent would help with that as he would effectively be part of the 2018 class, but I would still like to see 3-4 guys part of every single class, imo that’s the surest way to avoid that drop off.
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If Barnes sticks to his game plan, and it's obviously working, then you take Harris all day. But how would you tell Simons no? A big part of the fans would lose their minds
 
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Thunder Good-Oil said:
Your comparing years 2-4 to years 1-3.

Not everybody is projected to be a first round draftee. How many that turn down the immediate money are 6'3" guards?
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I’m comparing his first 2 contracts as a rookie...if he gets a similar raise in Year 4 with both contracts then he made more money in Option 2.

Again, it all depends on what his projection is and what his situation is, but it’s not a no-brainer...he’s far from the only person to return to school.
 
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