'22 FL DT Jordan Phillips (Tennessee transfer)

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VolInDayton said:
Josh Pate had an idea where The SEC should take some of that TV revenue and make an NIL deal that would be paid to all SEC football players depending on how many years they have played at their score. Like 15k the first year 25 k the second and 40k every year after. Basically the conferences need to take steps to ensure that they are putting a good product on the field.
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Thats not a bad idea. The SEC has to make sure that we are the top conference, and that people prefer to watch our level of football. Ratings = money. I must say, Josh Pate is one of my favorite people to listen to now.
 
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SweetasSoda said:
It matters in that you’ve lost a player that had a year of training under CRG. Hopefully we can find one with more talent to offset the loss of time.
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Everyone that was in front of him is coming back if K. Garland uses his COVID year. So I don't know if he would have been in the 3 deep rotation. We're not hurting at the DT position next season, but he may have been a starter in '24.
 
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bigl3327 said:
Everyone that was in front of him is coming back if K. Garland uses his COVID year. So I don't know if he would have been in the 3 deep rotation. We're not hurting at the DT position next season, but he may have been a starter in '24.
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And by 24 we can just get a transfer if we need one.
 
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Many kids not all are going to get a reality check when they move and see the same result. Sometimes it’s better to hang in and get better and wait for you day to come. The portal isn’t all made up of great impact players, lots of other issues with many in it. Not talking all just stating fact it isn’t the glamour portal end all that some make it out to be. In time I think you will see less movement in the portal and lots of messed up careers by marginal players looking for instant gratification. Nothing beats hard work and perseverance. Not saying there aren’t players that have a good reason to leave, there are. There are also others that think they can cherry pick a easier route only to find out the grass isn’t always greener. GBO!
 
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sjt18 said:
So one of two things happened. One, expectations were not explained to him clearly resulting in him "feeling" he deserved more playing time than he got. Two, they were explained to him and he thought he should be given something he did not earn.

Very disappointing situation.

Dealing with something similar with an employee. He claims he's underpaid but by any comparison to either others or the job skill checklist... he's ahead of schedule pay wise. Every effort to explain that to him blows right past his ears.
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Or the young man is listening to someone that is giving him bad advice. I'm convinced that is the reason in a good number of these cases.
 
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VolInDayton said:
Josh Pate had an idea where The SEC should take some of that TV revenue and make an NIL deal that would be paid to all SEC football players depending on how many years they have played at their score. Like 15k the first year 25 k the second and 40k every year after. Basically the conferences need to take steps to ensure that they are putting a good product on the field.
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That plan is probably not legal and if it was, it would just pit the big conferences against each other. Whatever you can do, we can do better. The rich get richer kinda thing. Dig deeper
 
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sjt18 said:
So one of two things happened. One, expectations were not explained to him clearly resulting in him "feeling" he deserved more playing time than he got. Two, they were explained to him and he thought he should be given something he did not earn.

Very disappointing situation.

Dealing with something similar with an employee. He claims he's underpaid but by any comparison to either others or the job skill checklist... he's ahead of schedule pay wise. Every effort to explain that to him blows right past his ears.
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Three , they explained the situation and he got the message.
 
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Batman1948 said:
That plan is probably not legal and if it was, it would just pit the big conferences against each other. Whatever you can do, we can do better. The rich get richer kinda thing. Dig deeper
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And? That is already happening... and has happened for years. NIL changes two things. One, more people/programs are involved in "paying" and getting paid. Two, it is above board and not dependent on who has the best system to cheat and pay players.
 
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Batman1948 said:
That plan is probably not legal and if it was, it would just pit the big conferences against each other. Whatever you can do, we can do better. The rich get richer kinda thing. Dig deeper
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Yeah probably against title 9 or something, but it's to prevent the rich from getting richer. Adding a floor NIL amount would maybe help struggling schools with less booster support hold on to some of their players. Also it might encourage players to not just jump into the portal in search for playing time, because a high number of these players don't end up having a positive outcome. It's kind of crazy fans are suppose to be paying these players when tv deals are hitting record levels. How about some of TV contracts that rely on the players go towards the players? Conferences already fight to secure the best TV contracts.
 
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VolInDayton said:
Yeah probably against title 9 or something, but it's to prevent the rich from getting richer. Adding a floor NIL amount would maybe help struggling schools with less booster support hold on to some of their players. Also it might encourage players to not just jump into the portal in search for playing time, because a high number of these players don't end up having a positive outcome. It's kind of crazy fans are suppose to be paying these players when tv deals are hitting record levels. How about some of TV contracts that rely on the players go towards the players? Conferences already fight to secure the best TV contracts.
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Schools are specifically prohibited from donating money to NIL Collectives.

There's simply no way for a school to legally funnel money to an NIL. I'm not saying it can't happen but it can't be above board.
 
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SayUWantAreVOLution said:
Schools are specifically prohibited from donating money to NIL Collectives.

There's simply no way for a school to legally funnel money to an NIL. I'm not saying it can't happen but it can't be above board.
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This hypothetical would be through the conference who gets paid from ESPN. This has nothing to do with the schools to pay for NIL.
 
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sjt18 said:
That appears to be the case in my example. Another (oddly very senior) employee is in his ear according to rumors. Wouldn't be a good day for him if proof comes to light.
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I have a disgruntled employee who has been riled up by others and is about to get herself fired from the best job she'll ever have. Kinda sad, but I'm at the end of my patience.
 
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SayUWantAreVOLution said:
Who exactly makes up the SEC?
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The conferences negotiate tv rights. They could make a collective and support all the members of their conference. ESPN gave the SEC a $3bn dollar deal for tv rights. The only reason none of this money can be used to support players is because of selfishness. Instead it's up to boosters and fans in collectives.

Currently the college football model is a sport with no salary cap where boosters can pay what they want. This is a more extreme version of the MLB, which lack of parity is hurting the sport. One idea for the MLB is to have a salary floor, which this would provide.
 
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SSVol said:
I have a disgruntled employee who has been riled up by others and is about to get herself fired from the best job she'll ever have. Kinda sad, but I'm at the end of my patience.
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Same deal. Without a degree, this 22 year old kid is going to make about $75K including bonuses this year. Works nights alternating 3 days one week with 4 the next. Job is not intensely physical. Mostly operating machinery from a control room.

And... he's about to blow it.
 
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VolInDayton said:
The conferences negotiate tv rights. They could make a collective and support all the members of their conference. ESPN gave the SEC a $3bn dollar deal for tv rights. The only reason none of this money can be used to support players is because of selfishness. Instead it's up to boosters and fans in collectives.

Currently the college football model is a sport with no salary cap where boosters can pay what they want. This is a more extreme version of the MLB, which lack of parity is hurting the sport. One idea for the MLB is to have a salary floor, which this would provide.
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The conference is the schools.

Why doesn't UT just create an entity or LLC called "The Cumberland Ave Group" and fund it, then use it to fund NILs? They can't.

The schools created the conference and can't use it to fund NILs either.

I'm not saying NILs aren't a mess. I'm just saying we can't use the school's (who eventually get the SEC money) TV revenue to fund an NIL.
 
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