Florida/Alabama: Mediocre or sleeping giants?

#26
#26
I've never been a big fan of the transitive property theory of college football, i.e. Team A beat Team B and A lost to C, therefore C will definitely beat B, as wel
But you make a good point. Aside from Texas, hard to pick a team anyone would feel confident predicting could beat Florida of Alabama. Again, largely because of their defenses.

u don't think USC has a good shot? The defenses are good, but a huge part is because the offenses are embarrasing.
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#27
#27
u don't think USC has a good shot? The defenses are good, but a huge part is because the offenses are embarrasing.
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No. USC has no shot. They aren't very good.
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#30
#30
We will get them next year. They will not beat us for the fourth straight time. Nick Saban is not half the coach that Kiffin is. I am sick of Alabama and Florida owning us. It's over, I hope they enjoyed it.
 
#31
#31
This season has been curious. As was forecast by most in the preseason, poor QB play has hindered Alabama to some extent, yet they have managed to stay undefeated. Florida was expected to field perhaps the best team in college football history, but they have been underwhelming.
 
#33
#33
To answer the OP's question, I have no idea. I used to think that Alabama was the best team but I have no idea now. A lot of football left to be played so we'll find out.
 
#34
#34
The path to the national title seems pretty clear-cut this year, at this point Florida and Alabama destined for the SECCG, and the winner plays for the national title. Dibs for the other spot be to Texas, unless they lose their title game, then to the winner of the Pac-10, then to Cincy, or maybe even TCU or BSU. Could be a strange year indeed depending on how the Bix XII plays out.
 
#35
#35
They're both good teams, but not the juggernauts that they were made out to be. I still see one of them at least dropping a game. This is how it is every year though. Teams have close games and find a way to win and they're finding ways to win. Neither are unbeatable but are still among the best in the nation.

They've had plenty of help so far from the guys in stripes. They'll have to step up there game now because those calls will probably not be so one sided. Each have a couple of tough games left, but they got through the meat of their schedule without a loss. History isn't on either ones side because it's been a long time since we've had a unbeaten team win it all.
 
#36
#36
We will get them next year. They will not beat us for the fourth straight time. Nick Saban is not half the coach that Kiffin is. I am sick of Alabama and Florida owning us. It's over, I hope they enjoyed it.
this is a joke, right? unless you mean Monte.
 
#38
#38
I really cannot make up my mind. I go back and forth between thinking that Florida is a game away from "clicking" on offense to just flat out always having to rely on defense to win games by 5-10 points. You look at the talent and scratch your head at why we cannot score because we do seem to move the ball fine between the 20's. But, in the last two games, we are just 2 of 15 in scoring TDs when in the red zone.

The team seems to completely seize up once getting into scoring position. I really think that its a coaching problem and that we miss Mullen, not to mention of course Harvin.

Same with Alabama -- what is their true identity? Are they average and have been getting lucky to pull these games out?

I watch the games and don't ever feel like that Florida or Alabama is getting seriously outplayed. On the other hand, neither seems able to explode with some offense and put a team away.

I have never been impressed with Bama from the start of the season, something about them just doesn't say they are a national championship team, but then again no team really screams that.

Best case scenario, LSU wins out and goes to the SEC championship and somehow beats Florida the 2nd time around. :)
 
#39
#39
This on today's MSN website re the Florida-Georgia game:

Florida hasn't looked great. Tim Tebow has been off, there's little production from the receivers, and it has taken too long to put away some mediocre teams. Oh, and by the way, the Gators are No. 1 in the nation in defense, No. 2 in scoring defense, and eighth in total offense. Florida is playing by a different set of standards and a different set of rules, and while the total package hasn't always been pretty, the foundation is rock solid.


The total offense number is really surprising, but I suspect that is yardage. Florida has moved the ball fine -- just not scoring. If they can overcome that problem and start punching it in, they may emerge as the frontrunner many of us thought they would be preseason.
 
#40
#40
The path to the national title seems pretty clear-cut this year, at this point Florida and Alabama destined for the SECCG, and the winner plays for the national title. Dibs for the other spot be to Texas, unless they lose their title game, then to the winner of the Pac-10, then to Cincy, or maybe even TCU or BSU. Could be a strange year indeed depending on how the Bix XII plays out.

Iowa fits in there somewhere close to Texas and definitely above Cinc/TCU/BSU if they run the table.
 
#42
#42
I think people get caught up in there actually being great teams. There are rarely ever any great teams that have good to great players at every position and are dominant in all phases of the game and win all their games easily.

There are usually ten to twelve good teams every year with enough talent and quality coaching to have a legitimate shot at the MNC. Then a couple of plays here or there can ruin it. Nick Saban said in the postgame last week that the game just showed how fragile a season can be. Iowa pulled one out today after being down early and scored on the last play of the game the week before to remain undefeated. Of their 9 wins, 4 are by 3 points or less. That isn't great, dominating football. That is a 1 or 2 play difference in a game.

I think last year UF was definitely the better team compared to Bama. I think just the opposite this year. Uf has definitely been playing it close to the vest this year against their bigger opponents. Bama's O has gone into a shell with the passing game. It is like they have shackled McElroy from doing what he does best, which is throw the deep sideline ball.

There are so many things that can go wrong on every offensive snap that it is a wonder that there are ever any big plays. And that is what has been missing from UF and Bama lately. They move it methodically between the 20s, then are stopped in the redzone where the D doesn't have to defend as much field. They haven't had those explosive big yardage plays where it almost seems it was a cheap score.

I saw a documentary once about Navy Seals and one of the operators said "It's not that we are that good, it's just that everybody else sucks." Thats how I see most football teams today.
 

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