Football Postseason: College and Pros could learn from each other

#26
#26
VOLinthaATL said:
TennNC - you're comparing the NFL playoffs 32 teams to college with 119. Your argument should stop there.
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the following statement holds true whether you're talking about a 32-team league or a group of 119 teams:

"winning quality games should be far more important than being the least crappy of a random group of crappy teams."
 
#27
#27
Do you hate the MLB playoff system as well? The NLWest winner has a worse record than at least 2-3 non-playoff teams every year.
 
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#28
TennNC said:
the following statement holds true whether you're talking about a 32-team league or a group of 119 teams:

"winning quality games should be far more important than being the least crappy of a random group of crappy teams."
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You tried to say the NCAA should adopt a playoff system like the NFL. It's simply not possbile.
 
#29
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TennNC said:
the following statement holds true whether you're talking about a 32-team league or a group of 119 teams:

"winning quality games should be far more important than being the least crappy of a random group of crappy teams."
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Your statement is not true at all. San Diego is not just some random team. They were the AFC West champions.
 
#30
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VOLinthaATL said:
You tried to say the NCAA should adopt a playoff system like the NFL. It's simply not possbile.
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i didn't try to say anything. what i actually said was this:

"College football gets it right by holding postseason games in neutral sites. Pro football gets it right by going to a playoff. The two should get together and improve their systems."
 
#31
#31
VOLinthaATL said:
Your statement is not true at all. San Diego is not just some random team. They were the AFC West champions.
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New England had a better record than any AFC West Team. Same with Indy. And they both won more games against better teams than San Diego.

San Diego made the playoffs and got HF advantage simply because they were being compared to a different set of teams than Indy and New England.

Period. End of Sentence.
 
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#32
it's foolish to suggest changing the rules when this year is so rare.

i fail to see what's so hard to grasp.
 
#33
#33
VOLinthaATL said:
Do you hate the MLB playoff system as well? The NLWest winner has a worse record than at least 2-3 non-playoff teams every year.
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I don't think I used the word "hate" in any of these posts, especially not in some reference to the NFL playoff system overall.

My point is that the NFL playoffs could be improved.

In fact, they could learn a thing from pro baseball playoffs. The division winners all get in - fine. But the home field advantage is determined by W-L record (and then head-to-head, I believe). If the NFL implemented this philosophy, then San Diego would've played AT Indy, Miami would've played AT Baltimore, and Arizona would've played AT Atlanta. To me, that's infinitely more fair than what happened this season.
 
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doozer said:
it's foolish to suggest changing the rules when this year is so rare.

i fail to see what's so hard to grasp.
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how rare or common this year is actually is irrelevant. allowing it to happen again is lazy and irresponsible, however.

and grasping isn't the issue. I fully grasp how they do it. And I believe they keep it that way b/c of tradition, not b/c it's the most fair system.

It makes more sense to change the way home field advantage is determined. See previous post about implementing the way they do it in MLB.
 
#35
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TennNC said:
New England had a better record than any AFC West Team. Same with Indy. And they both won more games against better teams than San Diego.

San Diego made the playoffs and got HF advantage simply because they were being compared to a different set of teams than Indy and New England.
Period. End of Sentence.
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Not true. They were not compared to anyone. They won THEIR division. They don't make their schedule.
 
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VOLinthaATL said:
Not true. They were not compared to anyone. They won THEIR division. They don't make their schedule.
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they absolutely were - they were being compared to the teams in their division, teams of lesser quality than the teams New England had to "surpass".

San Diego simply had to be better than 8-8 Denver, 5-11 Oakland and 2-14 KC. New England had to be better than 11-5 Miami, 12-4 Indy and 11-5 Baltimore.
 
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#39
TennNC......

you can't take the AFC west and 'compare' that to the teams that NE was competing with for the playoff spot......not exactly apples to apples.

now, if you want to compare the AFC East to the AFC West, i'd agree, the SD had an easier road than the Pats or Dolphins. but the Ravens, Colts and Dolphins were all in their own division races. the swing game was actualy the colts beating the patriots earlier in the year. or if the dolphins had beaten the RAvens earlier in the year.......or if hte Pats hadn't lost to the Jets.......

point is, at each point in the season, and/or the post season, these teams determine their own fate. win, you're in. lose, well play harder next time.
 
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oh, and lest not forget that 8-8 pathetic team did beat the colts....the colts were favored to win mind you.......

now, you can say that's not fair because they didn't have home field to an 8-8 team.......but what did you say in 05 when the Steelers beat the Bengals, Colts and Broncos on the road to the super bowl?

or last year when the Giants beat Dallas and Green Bay on the road to the super bowl?

point is......you get to play, you get winners and losers. the way it should be.
 
#41
#41
San Diego really should be 9-7, they beat the brakes off New England. They beat the Colts without LT & Shawn Merriman. To me this team has proven their worth.
 
#42
#42
jakez4ut said:
oh, and lest not forget that 8-8 pathetic team did beat the colts....the colts were favored to win mind you.......

now, you can say that's not fair because they didn't have home field to an 8-8 team.......but what did you say in 05 when the Steelers beat the Bengals, Colts and Broncos on the road to the super bowl?

or last year when the Giants beat Dallas and Green Bay on the road to the super bowl?

point is......you get to play, you get winners and losers. the way it should be.
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The result of that game, and the result of previous playoff games, have nothing at all to do with whether it was the most fair system of determining home field advantage.

SD should NOT have home field advantage in any playoff game, plain and simple.
 
#43
#43
jakez4ut said:
TennNC......

you can't take the AFC west and 'compare' that to the teams that NE was competing with for the playoff spot......not exactly apples to apples.

now, if you want to compare the AFC East to the AFC West, i'd agree, the SD had an easier road than the Pats or Dolphins. but the Ravens, Colts and Dolphins were all in their own division races. the swing game was actualy the colts beating the patriots earlier in the year. or if the dolphins had beaten the RAvens earlier in the year.......or if hte Pats hadn't lost to the Jets.......

point is, at each point in the season, and/or the post season, these teams determine their own fate. win, you're in. lose, well play harder next time.
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no, the point is, san diego was able to lose ( a lot, in fact - almost twice as much as the other teams mentioned) and get in. they were able to beat not a single team that made the playoffs AND host a game in the playoffs.

that's just pure crap no matter how you look at it.
 
#44
#44
PowerT83 said:
San Diego really should be 9-7, they beat the brakes off New England. They beat the Colts without LT & Shawn Merriman. To me this team has proven their worth.
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what was their record? what was the outcome of their meeting with indy (at home, no less) during the regular season?
 
#45
#45
TennNC said:
The result of that game, and the result of previous playoff games, have nothing at all to do with whether it was the most fair system of determining home field advantage.

SD should NOT have home field advantage in any playoff game, plain and simple.
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I can agree with that.
 
#46
#46
VOLinthaATL said:
You are starting to sound like Rex getting worked up over Hererra's comments.
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I don't know what you're referring to, but I do know that several of you seem content to reward a team for underperforming during the regular season.

it'd be like giving UGA a #2 seed last year in the NCAA bball tourney b/c they sneaked in by winning the SEC tourney. they're rewarded by making it in - they deserve nothing more than that.
 
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#48
TennNC said:
what was their record? what was the outcome of their meeting with indy (at home, no less) during the regular season?
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They beat the Colts, outplayed them in every facet of the game (the playoff game) I dont know that a little home cooking would of helped the Colts, Sproles would of been even faster on that turf.


The Colts should of had home field, piss and moan about all you want, start a petition to Roger Goodell(sp) i'll sign it, but this is a rarity and likely wont happen again for another 10 -20 years
 
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