For all you Bray bashers

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#26
Vols4us said:
A good D may or may not have helped Bray. A good D would mean less passes for Bray and completion percentage is not his strong suit. He doesn't know how to read a D pre-snap to check out of a play, so they took it on themselves to handle with the no-huddle. He gets skittish if a defender gets near him. He's not good at all on the move. Pressure up the middle causes him to glide backwards and throw off his back foot. He cost the team a couple of games last season and this with turnovers.

Some of that can be corrected if he will get over himself, realize he has a lot to learn, and get to work. If not - move on.
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Excellent post. I would add "attitude" is everything. Bray doesn't have a good attitude.
 
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GoBigOrangeVols said:
#2 Junior QB.... and that was behind VT's Logan Thomas. Anyone who has actually watched Logan Thomas play this year knows that anyone who would put him #1 on any list hasn't seen him play. Therefore, I would take anything Kiper says at this point with a grain of salt.

That said, I really hope Tyler Bray leaves. We will be a much better team with his attitude out of the locker room and no longer poisoning us.
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Which means coming into next year he will have the oppurtunity to be the #1 QB...

and have you been in the locker room? all the players love Bray.

Obviously Bray and DD didnt get along, it happens.

Bray had nothing to do with the Defense or Darick Rogers getting kicked off.

Bray fan or not, he is a good QB and its silly to think we would be better without him.
 
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Vols4us said:
A good D may or may not have helped Bray. A good D would mean less passes for Bray and completion percentage is not his strong suit. He doesn't know how to read a D pre-snap to check out of a play, so they took it on themselves to handle with the no-huddle. He gets skittish if a defender gets near him. He's not good at all on the move. Pressure up the middle causes him to glide backwards and throw off his back foot. He cost the team a couple of games last season and this with turnovers.

Some of that can be corrected if he will get over himself, realize he has a lot to learn, and get to work. If not - move on.
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I completely agree that he is unpolished, but he wasn't supposed to coach himself. The coaches were getting paid to make sure he became a QB that could progress through reads and understand defenses but Dooley and Co. have shown that they dis very little to imprpve Bray and just lived off of his natural arm talent.
 
#29
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TAF said:
Bray has yet to win a significant game in his college career...

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See, this is the kind of sh** that indicates that you and the poster right behind you have never really played or understand the game. No arguing. Fact. One player has NEVER won a football game. EVER.
 
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HankHill said:
Which means coming into next year he will have the oppurtunity to be the #1 QB...

and have you been in the locker room? all the players love Bray.

Obviously Bray and DD didnt get along, it happens.

Bray had nothing to do with the Defense or Darick Rogers getting kicked off.

Bray fan or not, he is a good QB and its silly to think we would be better without him.
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You and I butt heads over these topics a lot, and I'm convinced that I won't be able to change your mind... but I honestly can't wait for Tennessee football to be rid of Chaney and Bray.
 
#31
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Bray wouldnt even start at other school. They need to hire a big name coach right away and try like hell to find a new QB. He is a diease to the whole team.
 
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volbreaker said:
See, this is the kind of sh** that indicates that you and the poster right behind you have never really played or understand the game. No arguing. Fact. One player has NEVER won a football game. EVER.
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Prove me wrong...name a single significant game...


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GoBigOrangeVols said:
You and I butt heads over these topics a lot, and I'm convinced that I won't be able to change your mind... but I honestly can't wait for Tennessee football to be rid of Chaney and Bray.
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I just done see why you have such a BIG problem with Chaney and Bray, I agree Bray is not that good, but he is good. Chaney is not an elite OC, but he is good.

Coming into this year if you would have told me would would average 30ppg in SEC games WITHOUT DaRick rogers, anybody wouldve took that.

A good defense covers up SO many mistakes, and we had no defense at all. so i feel like that magnified the offenses mistakes
 
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TAF said:
Prove me wrong...name a single significant game...


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1.) Close but no cigar, your meme is misused

2.) You retorted his argument by just kind of rephrasing your original question which shows that you yourself lack quality evidence to prove that any of these losses was significantly more his fault than any other part of our team
 
#38
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GoBigOrangeVols said:
#2 Junior QB.... and that was behind VT's Logan Thomas. Anyone who has actually watched Logan Thomas play this year knows that anyone who would put him #1 on any list hasn't seen him play. Therefore, I would take anything Kiper says at this point with a grain of salt.

That said, I really hope Tyler Bray leaves. We will be a much better team with his attitude out of the locker room and no longer poisoning us.
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Very insightful, can't imagine what it is like in the locker room, what with his poisoning and all. Glad you are setting us straight. Can't see why anyone would want arguably the 2nd or 3rd most talented QB in our teams history to come back for his senior year. I mean, he could only get better, who would want that?
 
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Bray = Ryan Leaf

Great Physical Talent but does not have the mental toughness or the Character to be a great winning QB.
 
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#42
#42
TAF said:
Bray had the ball in HIS hands to score for the win...5 times this year...

How many times did he score?
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First of all, why should that blame fall on the offense when they put up 30+ points per game in SEC play?

Second of all, 5 times? You mean hitting Zach Rogers on 4th down and him dropping it? Getting hit from the blindside and fumbling vs South Carolina? Nothing he can do about that.

He failed vs Georgia, but again I'm not about to put blame on an offense that scores as much as ours.

I'm not aware of another 2 times..

Coming in to today, Tennessee is 26th in the nation in scoring. Only 1 team out of the 25 above us has a losing record, and that is Marshall.

Those teams above us include Alabama, Texas A&M, Oregon, Georgia, Nebraska, Kansas State, Clemson, Florida State, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State and Ohio State just to name a few.

What do all of them have in common? Being ranked(well, OSU isn't ranked in the BCS due to the ban, but whatever, they're undefeated), winning teams. I wonder how we get stuck with Marshall in being the only team of those that aren't bowl eligible...Hmm, I know! I'll blame the offense for it! That makes sense!
 
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#43
OVOL1280 said:
Bray wouldnt even start at other school. They need to hire a big name coach right away and try like hell to find a new QB. He is a diease to the whole team.
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IDIOT/TROLL ALERT!!! The worst three yr span of UT FB in my memory and the guy is SECOND in TD passes. Go away.
 
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#46
#46
I for one truly believe Bray loves Chaney. I also believe he absolutely had no respect for Dooley. Bray has all the physical tools needed to be a great NFL qb....he needs to develop it between the ears. Any solid NFL QB coach could develop that part of his game. He is a great project pick up in the 3rd round or later.
 
#49
#49
Tyler Bray for President in 2016. He will have won 3 Super Bowls and 2 MVP awards by then. He will be bored with football and need something to do with his free time.
 
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