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[tigervol9802]

This has potential to be good....looks like they are focusing on tougher state immigration laws.

White supremacists plan immigration rally in downtown Knoxville Knoxville News Sentinel

 

[volfanjustin]

Tougher immigration laws would be a good thing.

With the klan being there I can't help buy wonder if Robert Byrd were still alive, would he be in attendance?

 

[tigervol9802]

Tougher immigration laws would be a good thing.

With the klan being there I can't help buy wonder if Robert Byrd were still alive, would he be in attendance?

In all seriousness, I am expecting about 10-15 people to show up at this. I expect the counter-demonstrators to outnumber them 5-1, if not more.

There is part of me that wants to stop by to see this spectacle in action as an innocent bystander. Don't know if that's possible or not.

 

[volfanjustin]

In all seriousness, I am expecting about 10-15 people to show up at this. I expect the counter-demonstrators to outnumber them 5-1, if not more.

There is part of me that wants to stop by to see this spectacle in action as an innocent bystander. Don't know if that's possible or not.

Yea these people are morons. You are probably very close when it comes to the probable attendance.

If I were close I would probably stop by just to see the train wreck.

 

[OrangeEmpire]

You haven't been to a train wreck unless you have been or worked a Pro/Anti Israeli crowd.............

 

[gsvol]

And I fully expect many that say the same things you do to be in Knoxville at that rally.

Since YOU are the only one on the board that seems faintly interested in the event, why don't you attend and then report back to us with all the details.

While you're at it, why don't you attend an NAACP meeting and an NOI meeting and a congressionaql black caucus meeting and tell us about what is said there. Cancel the black caucus meeting, no whites allowed.

And while you're at it why don't you jet on over to Mecca and tell those people about the gospel of love preached by Jesus??


Just what things do I say to which you so selfrighteously object??

 

[sjt18]

Any Tea Party folks from the K'ville area here?

I wonder if you could get some accurate news coverage if you all made up the majority of the counter-protesters?

 

[tigervol9802]

Since YOU are the only one on the board that seems faintly interested in the event, why don't you attend and then report back to us with all the details.

While you're at it, why don't you attend an NAACP meeting and an NOI meeting and a congressionaql black caucus meeting and tell us about what is said there. Cancel the black caucus meeting, no whites allowed.

And while you're at it why don't you jet on over to Mecca and tell those people about the gospel of love preached by Jesus??


Just what things do I say to which you so selfrighteously object??

Actually have a very good friend who spent 2 weeks this summer in the 10-40 window in North Africa working with missionaries telling the Gospel of Jesus. That is the extent of what he is able to tell me for their safety. Do you not think the Muslims there are worthy to hear it?

I just figured since you are the only one who posts 27 articles a day about Muslims taking over America that you would enjoy meeting some folks that share a similar view of the situation. You want tougher imigration laws. I bet you guys are about 80% on the same wavelength about what America should do.

Get off the self-righteousness. You are the king of it. if it's not what you believe then it is wrong. You are no better than a raging liberal and example #1 of why people view conservatives as idiots.

 

[tigervol9802]

Any Tea Party folks from the K'ville area here?

I wonder if you could get some accurate news coverage if you all made up the majority of the counter-protesters?

Probably not a good idea. The media in this town would paint them one in the same in a heartbeat.

 

[sjt18]

Since I don't venture to this forum that often, I don't know what your particular beef with gsvols is but....

Islam is not benign. Michael Medved had an interesting description the other day that I thought was succinct and instructive.

Judaism is political but not universal. IOW's, the teachings establish a sort of theocracy for the nation of Israel but does not seek to convert the whole world.

Christianity is universal but not political. It seeks to convert everyone but in its fundamental and primitive form does not seek to establish an earthly political system or use political force for religious purposes. (Yes I know there have been exceptions)

Islam in its fundamental form is both universal and political. It demands a theocratic gov't and believes application must be universal.

Imagine the most "in your face" evangelist you've ever met. He probably annoyed you but more than likely didn't think it was his duty to use political power to make you convert. Fundamental Islam is just as zealous but teaches that force is a legitimate evangelism tool.

The more fundamental a Christian is (adhering strictly to the NT teachings) the less likely it is they would ever use force to try to convert someone. The more fundamental (adhering strictly to the Koran and holy writings of Islam) a person is the MORE likely it is they would believe in forced conversion.

The west and in particular liberals try to look at Islam as basically a religious movement through the paradigm of our ideals. You can't do that. Islam is just as political as it is religious. They do not respect any sort of dichotomy between the two.

 

[gorockytop101]

Great points. I would argue that Christianity has political power in certain regions of the US, but as you said, that isn't its fundamental purpose.

 

[sjt18]

I think you could boil it down to Jesus' statement that His kingdom was not of this world. It is a spiritual kingdom rather than a physical one.

Christian beliefs if held sincerely will definitely influence and inform someone's political beliefs. Abuses will occur as groups move away from the biblical faith. The RCC was very political during much of the Middle Ages. In America, only the Christian liberals of the early 20th century have made a serious attempt to use the US gov't for specifically "Christian" ends.

 

[gsvol]

Actually have a very good friend who spent 2 weeks this summer in the 10-40 window in North Africa working with missionaries telling the Gospel of Jesus. That is the extent of what he is able to tell me for their safety. Do you not think the Muslims there are worthy to hear it?

I just figured since you are the only one who posts 27 articles a day about Muslims taking over America that you would enjoy meeting some folks that share a similar view of the situation. You want tougher imigration laws. I bet you guys are about 80% on the same wavelength about what America should do.

Get off the self-righteousness. You are the king of it. if it's not what you believe then it is wrong. You are no better than a raging liberal and example #1 of why people view conservatives as idiots.

What is the 10-40 window??

Do you not think the Muslims there are worthy to hear it?

No and I'm sure you understood my meaning without having to ask such and asinine question. Just in case you really don't have the reading comprehension skills to grasp the meaning of what I said;

You are't even permitted to enter Mecca or Medina and if you did attempt to proclaim the gospel then you would surely die in short order.

All that's left of a once thriving Assyrian Christian church community in Saudi Arabia. Everywhere islam has reached dominance the muslims have destroyed churches, cemeteries, killed or converted the population and gennerally attempted to physically erase any history of anything other than islam. The same has happened in Kosovo during the last twenty years.

Bottom line that if muslims are to hear the gospel, it would be better if PC people like you would STFU.

I just figured since you are the only one who posts 27 articles a day about Muslims taking over America that you would enjoy meeting some folks that share a similar view of the situation.

Tough job but someone's got to do it. American's are appallingly ignorant of the history and nature of islam.

You want tougher imigration laws.

You're damned straight I do, first off we can repeal the Bwaney Fwank amendments to immigration law that forbid state department officials from denying a visa to someone that is known to have terrorist connections.

That is just stupid beyond words.

We can start enforcing emmigration law and deport those who enter illegally without a visa just like every other country in the world does.

We can also change quotas to allow more immigrants who want work and assimilate rather than those who grab the free federal tit and seek to form communities that more closely reflect the political nature of their own home country, such as has been done in Dearbornistan, Michigan.

Why would we import by the hundreds of thousands, even millions, people who seek to overthrow our present form of government??

I bet you guys are about 80% on the same wavelength about what America should do.

Should I figure I need to postcrap about a NAMBLA gettogether for you benefit since your views seem to be more on their wavelength than mainstream America??

You know what they say about making assumptions.

You are no better than a raging liberal and example #1 of why people view conservatives as idiots.

Thank you for that bit of nonsense. Typical of those who can't debate or discuss anything without resorting to personal character attacks.

There is just one question I would like to ask; how do you reconcile your PC attitude about islam with the fact that islamic inspired genocides during the last century have taken the lives of over ten million Christians??

 

[tigervol9802]

What is the 10-40 window??



No and I'm sure you understood my meaning without having to ask such and asinine question. Just in case you really don't have the reading comprehension skills to grasp the meaning of what I said;

You are't even permitted to enter Mecca or Medina and if you did attempt to proclaim the gospel then you would surely die in short order.

All that's left of a once thriving Assyrian Christian church community in Saudi Arabia. Everywhere islam has reached dominance the muslims have destroyed churches, cemeteries, killed or converted the population and gennerally attempted to physically erase any history of anything other than islam. The same has happened in Kosovo during the last twenty years.

Bottom line that if muslims are to hear the gospel, it would be better if PC people like you would STFU.




Tough job but someone's got to do it. American's are appallingly ignorant of the history and nature of islam.







You're damned straight I do, first off we can repeal the Bwaney Fwank amendments to immigration law that forbid state department officials from denying a visa to someone that is known to have terrorist connections.

That is just stupid beyond words.

We can start enforcing emmigration law and deport those who enter illegally without a visa just like every other country in the world does.

We can also change quotas to allow more immigrants who want work and assimilate rather than those who grab the free federal tit and seek to form communities that more closely reflect the political nature of their own home country, such as has been done in Dearbornistan, Michigan.

Why would we import by the hundreds of thousands, even millions, people who seek to overthrow our present form of government??





Should I figure I need to postcrap about a NAMBLA gettogether for you benefit since your views seem to be more on their wavelength than mainstream America??

You know what they say about making assumptions.





Thank you for that bit of nonsense. Typical of those who can't debate or discuss anything without resorting to personal character attacks.

There is just one question I would like to ask; how do you reconcile your PC attitude about islam with the fact that islamic inspired genocides during the last century have taken the lives of over ten million Christians??

The 1040 Window - 10/40 Window - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I'm well aware of Islam and history.

I also recommend you subscribe to the Voice of the Martyrs weekly email update. You think Muslims are bad? You would love the Buddhists in India and surrounding countries.

And for the record, since you are so well-versed in Bible and I am apparently not, can you please point out to me what it says Christians should do to those who do not believe in Jesus?

I have no other responses anything else you say. It's hard to debate or discuss with someone whose view of most facts and situations are shaped by conspiracy theories. (FYI - I hear Haslam is a closet-Muslim who made his money in kahoots with the Arabs in order to turn TN into the first Muslim state in America if they finance his election - might want to check into that.)

Obviously you must realize how much you have in common with these men that will be rallying on the 14th to be so offended by it since I never named anyone by name.

 

[OrangeEmpire]

The 1040 Window - 10/40 Window - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I'm well aware of Islam and history.

I also recommend you subscribe to the Voice of the Martyrs weekly email update. You think Muslims are bad? You would love the Buddhists in India and surrounding countries.

And for the record, since you are so well-versed in Bible and I am apparently not, can you please point out to me what it says Christians should do to those who do not believe in Jesus?

I have no other responses anything else you say. It's hard to debate or discuss with someone whose view of most facts and situations are shaped by conspiracy theories. (FYI - I hear Haslam is a closet-Muslim who made his money in kahoots with the Arabs in order to turn TN into the first Muslim state in America if they finance his election - might want to check into that.)

Obviously you must realize how much you have in common with these men that will be rallying on the 14th to be so offended by it since I never named anyone by name.

In short love them.

Direct words from Jesus.

 

[gorockytop101]

WikiAnswers - What verses in the Bible advocate killing non believers

Then there was that whole Jesus thing that made these verses somewhat obsolete.

^^^^^

not meant as an insult to Christians, just a gross oversimplification.

 

[tigervol9802]

WikiAnswers - What verses in the Bible advocate killing non believers

Then there was that whole Jesus thing that made these verses somewhat obsolete.

^^^^^

not meant as an insult to Christians, just a gross oversimplification.

Yes and no.

And it's a discussion I'm not having on a message board.

 

[OrangeEmpire]

WikiAnswers - What verses in the Bible advocate killing non believers

Then there was that whole Jesus thing that made these verses somewhat obsolete.

^^^^^

not meant as an insult to Christians, just a gross oversimplification.

Ya think, how about actually reading the bible....

:hi:

 

[gsvol]

The 1040 Window - 10/40 Window - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Many governments in the 10/40 Window are formally or informally opposed to Christian work of any kind within their borders.

This is why most of the Christian ministry to North Africa and other areas is done via radio waves and has been for the last half century at least.

I'm well aware of Islam and history.

If so, why do you object to my pointing this out??

Furthermore, why would you try to discredit me by implying I am akin to some supremacist group??

I also recommend you subscribe to the Voice of the Martyrs weekly email update. You think Muslims are bad? You would love the Buddhists in India and surrounding countries.

I do subscribe to VOM and also their prisoner alerts.

I used to post some of their material here but received zero responses, (or had my thread starter crammed into one of the gsvol compendium threads by a moderator) so I could only guess there was zero interest on that topic by posters on this board.

Top three persecuters of Chistians in the world;

1. muslims
2. communists
3. buddhists

And for the record, since you are so well-versed in Bible and I am apparently not, can you please point out to me what it says Christians should do to those who do not believe in Jesus?

I have never said any such nor even implied that I am more well-versed in the Bible than you.

It's hard to understand where you come up with some of your statements.

It they do not receive the Word then shake the dust off your feet and move on, that's what I do.

What you do is your business, I don't try to mind your business and in the future you might take the same tact with me and my business.

I have no other responses anything else you say. It's hard to debate or discuss with someone whose view of most facts and situations are shaped by conspiracy theories. (FYI - I hear Haslam is a closet-Muslim who made his money in kahoots with the Arabs in order to turn TN into the first Muslim state in America if they finance his election - might want to check into that.)

Good.

I said no such thing about Haslam and you know it.

Tell me about the "Knoxville research institute" if you know so much about Haslam's business.

Obviously you must realize how much you have in common with these men that will be rallying on the 14th to be so offended by it since I never named anyone by name.

You did direct the following toward me:

I just figured since you are the only one who posts 27 articles a day about Muslims taking over America that you would enjoy meeting some folks that share a similar view of the situation.

Again, you can make all the assumptions you want, that doesn't make it so.

If you perceive no threat against America from the world of islam, what should I surmise about you??

 

[tigervol9802]

This is why most of the Christian ministry to North Africa and other areas is done via radio waves and has been for the last half century at least.



If so, why do you object to my pointing this out??

Furthermore, why would you try to discredit me by implying I am akin to some supremacist group??



I do subscribe to VOM and also their prisoner alerts.

I used to post some of their material here but received zero responses, (or had my thread starter crammed into one of the gsvol compendium threads by a moderator) so I could only guess there was zero interest on that topic by posters on this board.

Top three persecuters of Chistians in the world;

1. muslims
2. communists
3. buddhists




I have never said any such nor even implied that I am more well-versed in the Bible than you.

It's hard to understand where you come up with some of your statements.

It they do not receive the Word then shake the dust off your feet and move on, that's what I do.

What you do is your business, I don't try to mind your business and in the future you might take the same tact with me and my business.





Good.

I said no such thing about Haslam and you know it.

Tell me about the "Knoxville research institute" if you know so much about Haslam's business.






You did direct the following toward me:



Again, you can make all the assumptions you want, that doesn't make it so.

If you perceive no threat against America from the world of islam, what should I surmise about you??

I dunno. Surmise whatever you want.

 

[sjt18]

WikiAnswers - What verses in the Bible advocate killing non believers

Then there was that whole Jesus thing that made these verses somewhat obsolete.

^^^^^

not meant as an insult to Christians, just a gross oversimplification.

Not really since those were theocratic civil laws in OT Israel.

They also chose the wrong scriptures. The correct ones to make the argument would be those where God directly commanded that Israel invade.... and kill everyone before possessing Canaan.

However that really "WOULD" be a gross oversimplification. God's command was justified by the gross debauchery of the people being invaded. They practiced gross pagan rituals and were abusive slaveholders and raiders.

Molech was one of their gods. It was a large bronze statue with cupped and joined hands and a hollow inside. His worship involved 0rgies, drug use, frenetic (sp?) music and dancing, and... building a fire within the statue to heat the bronze to sizzling then placing a baby in Molech's hands to fry.

On a more pragmatic note, the Canaanite tribes were criminals who would much rather raid a neighbor or rob those passing through than plant crops or tend herds.


However the appropriate answer for the Christian is that you do not find that civil law carried over into the NT either by command or practice.

 

[tigervol9802]

Not really since those were theocratic civil laws in OT Israel.

They also chose the wrong scriptures. The correct ones to make the argument would be those where God directly commanded that Israel invade.... and kill everyone before possessing Canaan.

However that really "WOULD" be a gross oversimplification. God's command was justified by the gross debauchery of the people being invaded. They practiced gross pagan rituals and were abusive slaveholders and raiders.

Molech was one of their gods. It was a large bronze statue with cupped and joined hands and a hollow inside. His worship involved 0rgies, drug use, frenetic (sp?) music and dancing, and... building a fire within the statue to heat the bronze to sizzling then placing a baby in Molech's hands to fry.

On a more pragmatic note, the Canaanite tribes were criminals who would much rather raid a neighbor or rob those passing through than plant crops or tend herds.


However the appropriate answer for the Christian is that you do not find that civil law carried over into the NT either by command or practice.

Well said.

 

[gsvol]

WikiAnswers - What verses in the Bible advocate killing non believers

Then there was that whole Jesus thing that made these verses somewhat obsolete.

^^^^^

not meant as an insult to Christians, just a gross oversimplification.

Here is a case of gross undersimplification.