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A debacle is a fair assessment of events both natural and man made that have led up to this game. Opinions around here have become heated to say the least. There will be a game... eventually, and I suspect it will be a fine one. Both teams seem amped to play. As for the outpouring of varied opinions on this issue, I offer this thought....
"Those who wish to appear wise among fools,
among the wise seem foolish."
-Quintilian
from ancient Rome, yet still so true!
Go Vols!
"Those who wish to appear wise among fools,
among the wise seem foolish."
-Quintilian
from ancient Rome, yet still so true!
Go Vols!
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I have to agree. I do note that there is some concern at the TPC that Rita will stall out in NE Texas-NW La. through ealry to mid-week. That COULD make it difficult to play the game if the rain is what it will probably be. At a minimum I would say that travel to and from the game is going to be very, very difficult from outside that immediate area.
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While waiting for the official announcement yesterday afternoon, I checke the Baton Rouge forecast for Saturday night.
Rain, sustained winds at about 35 mph with gusts to 67 mph. Sure, go ahead and push for the game to be played in that weather while the rest of your state is getting even worse weather. Brilliant.
Rain, sustained winds at about 35 mph with gusts to 67 mph. Sure, go ahead and push for the game to be played in that weather while the rest of your state is getting even worse weather. Brilliant.
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Well, do they have an explanation other than that they stomped their feet like a 4 year old until UT threatened to pull the plug on the game? I mean, for crying out loud, playing the game under these circumstances just so your fans can get drunk and spend their dough is just plain stupid.
I am not getting it.
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It was the SEC commissioner's choice on when to play the game.
And if it was up to LSU, of course the game would have been postponed anyways. You don't think we know enough about hurricanes and their effects? Why would we encourage tennessee to bypass flight regulations and fly into Baton Rouge during a powerful storm?
Personally, I think it's lame that TN expressed their forfeit strategy had they not gotten their way.
And if it was up to LSU, of course the game would have been postponed anyways. You don't think we know enough about hurricanes and their effects? Why would we encourage tennessee to bypass flight regulations and fly into Baton Rouge during a powerful storm?
Personally, I think it's lame that TN expressed their forfeit strategy had they not gotten their way.
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Wait, I'm not following. I thought that LSU said no to postponing the game at all. They wanted Saturday or, worst case, Sunday.
Then UT said, well, we can't do that so its Monday night or we forfeit. In which case LSUis out krillions.
So they folded like a cheap tent and said okay to Monday.
What am I missing?
Everyone, especially LSU, wanted the game to be this weekend, and it was difficult to tell if that was possible until about 36 hours ago when it was inevitable that the game could not be played. At that point, our hopes to play on the weekend had quite clearly vanished.
And it wasn't a choice up to LSU or TN ultimately, although they had their say. SEC Commissioner Mike Slive made the choice to postpone, which is the correct choice, imo. He stated that due to scheduling conflicts, the game can't be postponed before the SECCG. So The only option was to move it to Monday, really.
I don't really see what the uproar is. No one seems to have their facts straight.
And it wasn't a choice up to LSU or TN ultimately, although they had their say. SEC Commissioner Mike Slive made the choice to postpone, which is the correct choice, imo. He stated that due to scheduling conflicts, the game can't be postponed before the SECCG. So The only option was to move it to Monday, really.
I don't really see what the uproar is. No one seems to have their facts straight.
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I'd say the uproar is that LSU's position was to stick with Sat. night eventhough it was becoming evident that playing it would be next to if not impossible. Your point is correct, the SEC commissioner stepped in because he felt that insisting on Sat. night/Sunday was unreasonable. I'm not a big fan of a Monday game for several reasons but it is clearly a better solution than the position advocated by LSU.
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So Logan, is it true that LSU as of yesterday's phone conference wanted to keep the game on Saturday? Its a simple yes or no.
If they did, then the rest of the claim by the UT fans is totally logical, which is to say that LSU is penulitmate greedy scumbags for insisting the game be on Saturday night despite the fact it would be lunacy to ask for that.
You also said above that both UT and LSU wanted to keep the game on Saturday. Huh? I read on some links here that Fulmer said no way am I flying my team into a feakin hurricane.
So quit dodging, Logan. Did LSU want to keep the game on Saturday as of phone conference yesterday?
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No, no, no. Nice try.
You are the one who claims on above post that BOTH lsu AND ut wanted to keep the game on Saturday. All sorts of links on here with Fulmer saying no way was he flying into a hurricane. So, if ut didn't want it, that means someone did. Ummmmmm.... LSU?
Dude, seriously, are you not embarrassed that the almighty buck and the tradition of being drunken slobs just so you can be noisy was apparently causing your administration to have a brain aneurysm and demand to have the game on a weekend?
What kind of nonsense is that?
Again, where am I going wrong on this? I am utterly amazed at the whole scenario.
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Thoughts:
1. There is NO LEADERSHIP in the SEC Commissoner's chair.
2. Because there is no SEC leadership, the TEAMS try to make important decisions that should be made in the SEC Office.
3. The SEC Commish' should NEVER have even let the VOLS consider flying into BR on Sat. The SEC SHOULD have stepped in.
4. The final decison to play the game Monday Night in BR is RIDICULOUS. There's a 'cane coming into at least a portion of Louisiana and they hold a football game. (no common sense here) Nothing like partying while Rome burns.
5. I do not care where they play the game but not in Louisiana. Dangerous.
6. The state government and NOLA government WOULD NOT and DID NOT listen to anyone before and during Katrina. It's easier for them to criticize others who tried to advise and help them. These two forms of government are typical of Louisiana's continuing crooked, inept politics. It's been there since Huey Long's regimes. Never has changed.
7. Considering # 6, why would one expect the LSU Chancellor and the athletic director to be and act any differently. They DO NOT listen either. They do understand MONEY and forget their people. The game should have been moved to Pocatella, Maui or WHEREVER but not Baton Rouge.
8. Louisiana needs more than a clean-up from the 'canes. It needs to CLEAN HOUSE in state and local government.
9. LSU needs to get off the "I'm a Hurricane Victim (Soap-box)Syndrome" and start THINKING and making common sense decisions. LSU CAN be different than it's state government--it's called leadership, innovation and looking to the future.
10. Believe this, whenever, this game is played---you'd better have your crying-towels ready and be prepared to head to the Kum Bah Ya Closet--because you're going to be led down the path and see it spread on thick by the liberal controlled ESPN.
11. I do feel for the citizens of Louisiana during their bad unsolicited hurricanes, but they REALLY need to SIT UP and recognize their state government is an abject failure. It's been a failure for fifty-sixty years--no wonder the levies failed-no wonder their school system is in the cellar. This ineptness bleeds downward to the LSU admistration as well.
12. Sad to say, but until state government improves water will continue to seek it's own level.
1. There is NO LEADERSHIP in the SEC Commissoner's chair.
2. Because there is no SEC leadership, the TEAMS try to make important decisions that should be made in the SEC Office.
3. The SEC Commish' should NEVER have even let the VOLS consider flying into BR on Sat. The SEC SHOULD have stepped in.
4. The final decison to play the game Monday Night in BR is RIDICULOUS. There's a 'cane coming into at least a portion of Louisiana and they hold a football game. (no common sense here) Nothing like partying while Rome burns.
5. I do not care where they play the game but not in Louisiana. Dangerous.
6. The state government and NOLA government WOULD NOT and DID NOT listen to anyone before and during Katrina. It's easier for them to criticize others who tried to advise and help them. These two forms of government are typical of Louisiana's continuing crooked, inept politics. It's been there since Huey Long's regimes. Never has changed.
7. Considering # 6, why would one expect the LSU Chancellor and the athletic director to be and act any differently. They DO NOT listen either. They do understand MONEY and forget their people. The game should have been moved to Pocatella, Maui or WHEREVER but not Baton Rouge.
8. Louisiana needs more than a clean-up from the 'canes. It needs to CLEAN HOUSE in state and local government.
9. LSU needs to get off the "I'm a Hurricane Victim (Soap-box)Syndrome" and start THINKING and making common sense decisions. LSU CAN be different than it's state government--it's called leadership, innovation and looking to the future.
10. Believe this, whenever, this game is played---you'd better have your crying-towels ready and be prepared to head to the Kum Bah Ya Closet--because you're going to be led down the path and see it spread on thick by the liberal controlled ESPN.
11. I do feel for the citizens of Louisiana during their bad unsolicited hurricanes, but they REALLY need to SIT UP and recognize their state government is an abject failure. It's been a failure for fifty-sixty years--no wonder the levies failed-no wonder their school system is in the cellar. This ineptness bleeds downward to the LSU admistration as well.
12. Sad to say, but until state government improves water will continue to seek it's own level.
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