For those always talking about recruiting rankings

[dbr25]

TCU is going to NC game with a five year recruiting average of 30. BTW we stand at 17 and beat Bama, LSU, and Clemson. Yes, to go to playoffs nearly every year, you need to be near the top of the list. Recruiting matters, but coaches matter more.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...Qjjh6BAgZEAE&usg=AOvVaw3YiHtRzKYbLmsQ1Kp8uiAE

 

[utvolpj]

Let me know when they get to play an sec schedule with their 30 average. In our conf you must have both

 

[DaddyChad]

Tcu is a good football team but they wouldn’t be in the playoffs if they played in the SEC. You can catch lightning in a bottle in the big twelve and make a run, wouldn’t happen in this conference.

 

[EZE]

Let me know when they get to play an sec schedule with their 30 average. In our conf you must have both

This all day long. TCU plays in a conference of pillow fighting. They got a very lucky draw in Michigan.

They would be lucky to be a Ky or a MissSt in the SEC.

 

[BruisedOrange]

Highly rated recruits over multiple years allow a team to absorb bad luck, and remain in the mix. Still need some favorable luck to get to the top.

 

[dbr25]

Let me know when they get to play an sec schedule with their 30 average. In our conf you must have both

I hear that SEC schedule stuff every year, yet the SEC doesn't dominate the bowl games every year. Some years yes, but not every year. I believe the SEC is the toughest conference, but it's not by as much margin as many of you make it out to be. The bowl games prove that, yet the same old talking points keep getting repeated.

 

[VolunteerHillbilly]

As for coaches mattering more, I offer

Exhibit A Ed Orgeron
Exhibit B Gene Chizik

Those teams could have had a monkey for a head coach and still won a championship

 

[utvolpj]

I hear that SEC schedule stuff every year, yet the SEC doesn't dominate the bowl games every year. Some years yes, but not every year. I believe the SEC is the toughest conference, but it's not by as much margin as many of you make it out to be. The bowl games prove that, yet the same old talking points keep getting repeated.

How many contenders did tcu play this season before tonight?

Bowls are offset because we're guaranteed 1 or 2 in the playoff. Perfect example was us playing the ACC champ

With optouts I'm not sure it's relevant anyways

 

[VOLS INC.]

I hear that SEC schedule stuff every year, yet the SEC doesn't dominate the bowl games every year. Some years yes, but not every year. I believe the SEC is the toughest conference, but it's not by as much margin as many of you make it out to be. The bowl games prove that, yet the same old talking points keep getting repeated.

You think these players are hype for the music city bowl after they’ve played in SEC stadiums with 100K fans, a national audience, and a league championship on the line just a few months prior?

If TCU played our schedule this year, they most likely have losses to Bama, UGA, LSU on the road and probably one more loss to a mid-tier SEC team that played out of their mind that week. Like USCjr got us late in the season.

It’s not a 1 week battle that causes the issues. It’s the season long war.

 

[VFLCodyGBO]

TCU is going to NC game with a five year recruiting average of 30. BTW we stand at 17 and beat Bama, LSU, and Clemson. Yes, to go to playoffs nearly every year, you need to be near the top of the list. Recruiting matters, but coaches matter more.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...Qjjh6BAgZEAE&usg=AOvVaw3YiHtRzKYbLmsQ1Kp8uiAE

Going and winning are 2 very different things.

 

[VolBricks]

speaking of the SEC, OSU is hitting GA in the mouth right now.

 

[salutethehill]

As for coaches mattering more, I offer

Exhibit A Ed Orgeron
Exhibit B Gene Chizik

Those teams could have had a monkey for a head coach and still won a championship

Don’t forget Larry Coker.

 

[TN1111]

speaking of the SEC, OSU is hitting GA in the mouth right now.

I would send the house against Bennett….rattle him like Bama did in the SEC championship game last year. He’ll make you pay for that aggression occasionally but to me it’s worth the gamble.

 

[butchna]

As for coaches mattering more, I offer

Exhibit A Ed Orgeron
Exhibit B Gene Chizik

Those teams could have had a monkey for a head coach and still won a championship

Not confirmed that Chip Kelly ISN'T a monkey.

 

[Wezcoast]

To this point , OSU is matching up pretty well with Georgia , which the former was bit*hslapped by Michigan ,which was beaten by TCU today. Transitive property doesn't work blah blah , but basically it just shows that TCU is legit . They have a good chance at the title this year and will have earned it if they do. I like that team because they just keep playing without all the talk and cockiness of a lot of other teams.

 

[butchna]

Maybe the bigger point is that a SEC team who recruits in the top 10-15 isn't consigned to failure. As per the narrative of our star groupies on here.

 

[Bleed-Orange]

TCU is going to NC game with a five year recruiting average of 30. BTW we stand at 17 and beat Bama, LSU, and Clemson. Yes, to go to playoffs nearly every year, you need to be near the top of the list. Recruiting matters, but coaches matter more.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...Qjjh6BAgZEAE&usg=AOvVaw3YiHtRzKYbLmsQ1Kp8uiAE

Never use the anomaly as your baseline for reality.

 

[utvolpj]

Maybe the bigger point is that a SEC team who recruits in the top 10-15 isn't consigned to failure. As per the narrative of our star groupies on here.

One that recruits with a 30 average isn't making Atlanta much less the playoffs. You can get away with that in others

 

[butchna]

One that recruits with a 30 average isn't making Atlanta much less the playoffs. You can get away with that in others

Cuz me saying "10-15' means that.

 

[Doberman]

TCU is going to NC game with a five year recruiting average of 30. BTW we stand at 17 and beat Bama, LSU, and Clemson. Yes, to go to playoffs nearly every year, you need to be near the top of the list. Recruiting matters, but coaches matter more.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...Qjjh6BAgZEAE&usg=AOvVaw3YiHtRzKYbLmsQ1Kp8uiAE

So we won’t be hearing any “It’s only year 2, gotta get some players in here” arguments from you?

 

[utvolpj]

Cuz me saying "10-15' means that.

The op did. That was the argument

 

[perico]

Look at what Bama did to the team that beat TCU in the Big XII Championship today. I didn’t have a problem with TCU getting in (If we are going by who deserved it, then Ohio State should’ve been left out and they are absolutely destroying #1 Georgia right now- but their schedule was an absolute joke), but TCU would’ve been obliterated by Alabama or dare I say, a healthy Tennessee.

Sonny Dykes is a journeyman. He’s like a modern day Houston Nutt. He’s a good coach, but it’s not like he’s known as elite and has been very average for quite a bit of his career.

 

[butchna]

The op did. That was the argument

Fair enough. I made a separate point.

 

[dbr25]

The op did. That was the argument

Hmm. I did? Didn't mean to. Meant to show possible, not probable, but possible.

 

[TN1111]

Ohio State linebackers too slow