For those always talking about recruiting rankings

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VolunteerHillbilly said:
As for coaches mattering more, I offer

Exhibit A Ed Orgeron
Exhibit B Gene Chizik

Those teams could have had a monkey for a head coach and still won a championship
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Coordinators matter a ton, and they had great ones. After that success those Coordinators moved on to head coaching roles or the NFL.
 
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Does the ranking include portal transfers or only HS recruits? TCU has been very active in the portal.
 
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DaddyChad said:
Tcu is a good football team but they wouldn’t be in the playoffs if they played in the SEC. You can catch lightning in a bottle in the big twelve and make a run, wouldn’t happen in this conference.
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Disagree.


This TCU would absolutely compete for a title in the SEC this year.

Recruiting rankings matter, but they matter more so to sustaining success. But good coaching and development occasionally come together and create a very good team, despite the rankings. I wouldn't expect TCU to repeat next year as CFP finalist, but this current team is a very good team.
 
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Carp said:
Disagree.


This TCU would absolutely compete for a title in the SEC this year.

Recruiting rankings matter, but they matter more so to sustaining success. But good coaching and development occasionally come together and create a very good team, despite the rankings. I wouldn't expect TCU to repeat next year as CFP finalist, but this current team is a very good team.
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TCU played their championship game today. Georgia is going to dog walk them.
 
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EZE said:
This all day long. TCU plays in a conference of pillow fighting. They got a very lucky draw in Michigan.

They would be lucky to be a Ky or a MissSt in the SEC.
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Dude Kentucky and Miss St and Florida and Missouri and Texas A&M and Ole Miss and Vanderbilt and S.C. all suck. S.C. caught lightning in a bottle beating us.
Oregon St boat raced Florida
Kentucky didn’t belong on the field vs a crappy Iowa team.
Ole Miss got curb stomped by TexasTech
Coaching does matter , thank God we have a really good one. With Pruitt , Jones , Kiffin, Dooley we would have been 7-5 , 8-4 at best.
 
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Not sure if you know about recruiting but Texas High school football is one of the best in the country . TCU is loaded with some very elite talent . Georgia be lucky to win. Georgia don’t have anything on Texas talent.
 
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perico said:
Look at what Bama did to the team that beat TCU in the Big XII Championship today. I didn’t have a problem with TCU getting in (If we are going by who deserved it, then Ohio State should’ve been left out and they are absolutely destroying #1 Georgia right now- but their schedule was an absolute joke), but TCU would’ve been obliterated by Alabama or dare I say, a healthy Tennessee.

Sonny Dykes is a journeyman. He’s like a modern day Houston Nutt. He’s a good coach, but it’s not like he’s known as elite and has been very average for quite a bit of his career.
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He beat Texas by 7 , Alabama beat Texas by 2 so that don’t hold water.
 
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VolunteerHillbilly said:
As for coaches mattering more, I offer

Exhibit A Ed Orgeron
Exhibit B Gene Chizik

Those teams could have had a monkey for a head coach and still won a championship
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Great point. LSU hired 3 consecutive coaches that won the NC. Were Ed O and Les Miles that great at coaching? Or is LSU a hotbed for recruiting.

Saban's record at Mich St: 34-24-1 and his first 4 years his highest finish in the Big 10 was 5th. At LSU 48-16

TCU is an anomaly. I don't think coaching is more important than recruiting, case in point: Kirby is getting ready to have twice as many NCs as Steve Spurrier does.
 
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Carp said:
People said the same about OSU and UGA. If Harrison didn't go out, UGA fans are crying themselves to sleep tonight.

TCU took down a Michigan team that destroyed OSU. Max Duggan is a baller.
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Stetson cries after every game they win he probably is a slobbering mess after a loss😱
 
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They had two tight games with Kansas St this season. Alabama beat Kansas St by 25 points on a neutral field. If Dykes keeps using all his timeouts before the critical moments at the end of the game he won’t last at TCU very long. They are an 8-4 team that has ridden the magic carpet as far as it can take them. One of the luckiest teams I’ve ever seen.
 
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TheFlash1971 said:
Dude Kentucky and Miss St and Florida and Missouri and Texas A&M and Ole Miss and Vanderbilt and S.C. all suck. S.C. caught lightning in a bottle beating us.
Oregon St boat raced Florida
Kentucky didn’t belong on the field vs a crappy Iowa team.
Ole Miss got curb stomped by TexasTech
Coaching does matter , thank God we have a really good one. With Pruitt , Jones , Kiffin, Dooley we would have been 7-5 , 8-4 at best.
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UF was down to their 4th string QB who had attempted 14 career passes and none coming at UF. They had multiple WR’s opt out as well. Oregon State didn’t. UK is awful, but they too were without Levis and Rodriguez. They were shells of the teams that had played all season.
 
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dbr25 said:
TCU is going to NC game with a five year recruiting average of 30. BTW we stand at 17 and beat Bama, LSU, and Clemson. Yes, to go to playoffs nearly every year, you need to be near the top of the list. Recruiting matters, but coaches matter more.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...Qjjh6BAgZEAE&usg=AOvVaw3YiHtRzKYbLmsQ1Kp8uiAE
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Cool story. Now since you say coaching matters more, list the other teams that have had big time success in the playoffs with non top 5-10 recruiting classes.
 
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TheFlash1971 said:
Not sure if you know about recruiting but Texas High school football is one of the best in the country . TCU is loaded with some very elite talent . Georgia be lucky to win. Georgia don’t have anything on Texas talent.
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Then why didnt this "elite talent" get reflected in the recruiting rankings? TCU has averaged 30th in recruiting over the last few years. Are you telling me that TCU managed to recruit that many "diamond in the rough" players and they somehow ALL panned out? Possibly but seems highly unlikely. If this is the case then they are the luckiest team in the history of college football.

I'm firmly in the camp that TCU is a very well coached team that has benefitted from playing a soft Big 12 schedule. Yes they played Michigan off their feet but they wont sustain it 2 games in a row. Georgia will absolutely expose them!
 
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