For those board members who chastise the "minority"

[Godfatha]

Woukd be interesting to see what the ratio would be, fire him:keep him, now that Pearl is off the market. Now that the pipedream has been smashed, I wonder if CCM garners any further support due to the belief that our administration would foul up yet another basketball coaching search.

If Cuonzo goes one and done in the tourney, I still want him gone. If he goes, three games in, then he's bought some time.

As far as the AD, they apparently don't look at coaching hires as investments but as costs. So they go out and try finding the bargain deal, and it usually results in mediocrity. I don't get it, especially since we have no problems spending money on facilities.

 

[VolsSportsFan]

You could be right. I don't think it's even close to 50/50, though.

Depends on what happens this week really.

If he loses tomorrow night, the majority will want him fired, I have no doubts (and I'll be with them though I still doubt it happens).

If he wins tonight and loses to UMass, I still think the majority will want him fired but the gap will be smaller.

If he gets to round of 32, I think it will be close to 50/50, and if he gets to the Sweet 16 or higher, it will be back in his favor to come back.

Right now I think he has a good chunk of the fanbase in an "undecided" state and this week will likely decide that. Having said that, even if he makes the Sweet 16, I still think the majority will be in a "he doesn't deserve to be fired but he's not the long term answer" state. He'll have to work on that next season (assuming he's here).

 

[volmaniac18]

I think it's more that people don't know what "minority" means, that or they are attempting to downplay a position they don't like by calling it a minority.

I don't believe for a second if you count everyone who is disappointed in Martin's overall performance that it would be a minority. Breaking it down further, your mileage may vary, but I still don't think Martin has a majority in his favor on really any given major category.

I agree with you on the first part. I am not certain about the second part but you are most likely right; I wonder how fans' positions have changed since Auburn hired BP.

 

[1982Alum]

Short version please...who is the minority OP speaks of in THIS thread? All of a sudden it's hard to tell who is who?

GBO/IMO

Good post. And we need to limit posts to say 100 words or so. The final thesis we got turned me off before I barely started to read it. Must be a liberal arts major.

 

[vol66]

Good post. And we need to limit posts to say 100 words or so. The final thesis we got turned me off before I barely started to read it. Must be a liberal arts major.

I don't mind the length of the post. I responded to a thread that was called something like "are there really any Martin supporters left" like two weeks ago. I stated I was pro-ZO...there weren't many, if any, others.

Quite a bit of "moving the goal posts" has occurred since then, but I don't see a whole lot of ZO supporters. So, the whole Minority/Majority thing is confusing to me.

 

[tenntex67]

Help me out, is the minority the majority or the majority the minority?

 

[cncchris33]

If Cuonzo goes one and done in the tourney, I still want him gone. If he goes, three games in, then he's bought some time.

As far as the AD, they apparently don't look at coaching hires as investments but as costs. So they go out and try finding the bargain deal, and it usually results in mediocrity. I don't get it, especially since we have no problems spending money on facilities.

You nailed it in your second paragraph and therein lies the problem.

 

[bleedingTNorange]

It's getting quite comical how some here seem to think they are some oppressed group of fans by all these people that are 100% pro-Martin.

Seriously, have you posted here at all this season, or the past 3 seasons? Where in the world are you getting that those who are critical of Martin are "the minority"?

Lol

 

[patrick]

It sounds to me like the "minority" is right only when you agree with them.

So you wanted to keep Dooley???

 

[MR_VOL]

I think it is important to point out a bit of the obvious in defense of the purported “minority” of fans. There is no doubt we have a vocal fan base that can become very critical of our coaches. I think this same fan base is very sports savvy as well. Tennessee has experienced great success in the past. There is no doubt that Fulmer, Summit, Delmonico, and Pearl were some of the best at what they did. It is important to note that we, as fans, watched these various programs work through their growing pains to reach their respective levels of success. We remember the talent, discipline, consistency, and energy associated with these successful programs. We can recognize when a successful program is being built.

I want to preface the following by saying I attended school from 2005-2009 so I personally experienced a very tumultuous time in Tennessee athletics.

For those of you who think Phil should never have been fired and the “minority” was at fault, the “minority” was right. If you disagree then you are either still living in the ‘90s or you have diluted your memories of Phil’s final seasons. Cutcliffe deserves a lot of the credit for his return during the 2007 season. I remember the inconsistent play and overall lack of energy in Neyland during the end of his tenure. Our talent level was dwindling and we were being out-coached. We literally could not get off the field on third downs and our offense was sporadic at best. In his final season we dropped out of the top-25 after week one and never sniffed the top-25 again.

For those of you who think people need to get over Bruce and the “minority” should let the BBB thing go, he was the best thing that has happened to Tennessee’s basketball program in ages. High-energy, fun basketball was the theme of his tenure. His full court press was ridiculous. He had great talent like Lofton, J. Smith, and T. Smith; but, he also made guys like Ryan Childress, Brian Williams, and Jordan Howell successful. He is the only coach to take Tennessee to #1 in men’s basketball and he made our program a regular for the NCAA tournament.

For those who were critical of the “minority” when they wanted to see Dooley fired, the “minority” was right and the comments by former players and high school coaches since he left proves that. Under his tenure, our program was headed in the wrong direction. This debate needs to be buried six feet under.

For those who chastise the “minority” for too eagerly critiquing the CBJ hire, you are correct in this regard. You have to give a coach a chance before you sink his boat. CBJ looks to be the real deal. He’s doing all the right things in the program to rebuild the program’s success. He is recruiting top talent and working hard on player development both physically and mentally. You can see the effects on the field (e.g. USCe and UGA last year). The fans can feel the energy level mounting in the program.

For those who think the “minority” should stop criticizing CCM’s coaching tenure, this tournament is his defining moment. He has had the same core players on this team for three years now. Any fan base has a right to expect success from a veteran laden group. What type of success should we expect from our program? Look at Florida, they are a upperclassmen filled team this year as well. If your response to that statement is “they have more talent and/or Billy Donovan as a coach,” then I put these two questions to you: (1) how significant was player development in helping Florida reach its current talent level; (2) why should we settle for anything less than a “Billy Donovan” coaching our program?[/QUOTE
I am in the minority in understanding this post. I agree with the vast majority of the content written.

 

[bleedingTNorange]

So you wanted to keep Dooley???

Where's your buddy?

 

[cncchris33]

So you wanted to keep Dooley???

That's exactly what I said. Verbatim.
:rolls eyes:

 

[SNAFU]

maniac has brought to my attention that i'm a member of the minority.

Without going into detail I can be either:
1. Silent majority
2. Silent minority
3. Vocal majority (who knows on a forum)
4. Vocal minority (see above)
5. Indifferent
6. Technologically disadvantaged and, therefore, one of any above.

In the end I am.... ALL VOL!

 

[knowthevols]

How did we lose Pearl to Auburn exactly? That's like saying we lost Gruden to MNF.

Because we kept martin too long.

 

[bleedingTNorange]

Because we kept martin too long.

Should've fired him on Selection Sunday and let Bruce coach the boys tonight right?

 

[cncchris33]

Because we kept martin too long.

That opinion is stupid, but at least it's your's.

Edit: When Pearl was hired by AU, I thought perhaps it would quell the BBB crowd, at least to an extent. You were the first person I thought at the time. I gave you too much credit apparently.