Forde picks Vols

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#26
utknate said:
I understand that, IMO if we win our first game we are in.

I'm just saying would winning the SECT be desirable for NCAAT seeding? I'm just asking because I would like to avoid playing a 1 seed in the second day if winning the SECT would jump as all the way to a 9 seed. Obviously I'd love to win the SECT though.

Just hypothetical, if winning the final means a 9 seed and losing in the final would put us a solid 10 or 11 seed, I would rather lose the final.
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We would be much higher than a 8/9 seed if we won the sect IMO.
 
#27
#27
From play in game, to awaiting the play in game. How a couple of wins changes everything.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
We could get as high as a 6 seed if we won the SECT IMO.
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I just don't see this. I can't see beating one really good team (Florida), one really average team (UK) and one other bubble team (Arkansas) would have UT jump 6 seed lines. That's leap frogging at least 20 teams. Is the a bracketology site out there projecting UT could jump that high if they win the tourney?
 
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I know everyone is talking about Lane and Hurd, but have people written off Scott and Paulk(if he is ready) to get some touches this fall? I know we are looking at who is already on campus, but I wouldn't be surprised to see both of them turn some heads in fall camp.
 
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volinbama256 said:
I know everyone is talking about Lane and Hurd, but have people written off Scott and Paulk(if he is ready) to get some touches this fall? I know we are looking at who is already on campus, but I wouldn't be surprised to see both of them turn some heads in fall camp.
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:clap:
 
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zansdad said:
I just don't see this. I can't see beating one really good team (Florida), one really average team (UK) and one other bubble team (Arkansas) would have UT jump 6 seed lines. That's leap frogging at least 20 teams. Is the a bracketology site out there projecting UT could jump that high if they win the tourney?
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I want no part of an 8-9 seed. If we aren't a 10-12 we better hope we're a 6. Getting an 8-9 means we would eventually see Duke (who I actually believe we could match up with and take advantage of on the inside), Arizona (oh God please no, they have the bigs to handle us), or Villanova (who I know almost nothing about). The committee wouldn't put us in the same bracket as Florida or Wichita. Avoiding a 1 seed is our best chance of making a Sweet 16 run.
 
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Florida's just been too damn hot in conference play to pick against them. I would love to see us win the SEC tourney, but I think the gators continue their streak this season.
 
#33
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I'd put more stock in Forde's opinion if he'd laid some money on the line.
The last few games say he might just be right, but Vol performance in past SEC tourney's say not a chance.
 
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zansdad said:
I just don't see this. I can't see beating one really good team (Florida), one really average team (UK) and one other bubble team (Arkansas) would have UT jump 6 seed lines. That's leap frogging at least 20 teams. Is the a bracketology site out there projecting UT could jump that high if they win the tourney?
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No, I don't think there's a site that projects that. But if you look at other past high majors with a low 20s RPI and that strong of SOS....that's about where they'd get seeded.

Our resume would be better than Kentucky, no?
 
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zansdad said:
I just don't see this. I can't see beating one really good team (Florida), one really average team (UK) and one other bubble team (Arkansas) would have UT jump 6 seed lines. That's leap frogging at least 20 teams. Is the a bracketology site out there projecting UT could jump that high if they win the tourney?
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Yea BTO's delusional bracketology.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
No, I don't think there's a site that projects that. But if you look at other past high majors with a low 20s RPI and that strong of SOS....that's about where they'd get seeded.

Our resume would be better than Kentucky, no?
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I don't think UTs RPI would reach the low 20's by winning the SECt. That would be a 6 or 7 team jump for every win. I also haven't looked extensively at UK's resume. I just don't think the committee is gonna jump UT that far. Resumes are for the whole season and I don't think winning the tourney offsets all the bad losses that much.
 
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CAVol said:
I want no part of an 8-9 seed. If we aren't a 10-12 we better hope we're a 6. Getting an 8-9 means we would eventually see Duke (who I actually believe we could match up with and take advantage of on the inside), Arizona (oh God please no, they have the bigs to handle us), or Villanova (who I know almost nothing about). The committee wouldn't put us in the same bracket as Florida or Wichita. Avoiding a 1 seed is our best chance of making a Sweet 16 run.
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A agree. Historically, beating a #1 to get to the sweet 16 hasn't happened very often.
 
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zansdad said:
I don't think UTs RPI would reach the low 20's by winning the SECt. That would be a 6 or 7 team jump for every win. I also haven't looked extensively at UK's resume. I just don't think the committee is gonna jump UT that far. Resumes are for the whole season and I don't think winning the tourney offsets all the bad losses that much.
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UCONNs national title year gotta a nice seed due to winning the big east tourney. They were projected around a 7 seed heading into the BET, and ended up with a 3 seed.

Rpiforecast has been spot on all season, they say winning the SECT expected RPI of 22.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
UCONNs national title year gotta a nice seed due to winning the big east tourney. They were projected around a 7 seed heading into the BET, and ended up with a 3 seed.

Rpiforecast has been spot on all season, they say winning the SECT expected RPI of 22.
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I like Rpiforcast. I have watched that site for a couple years. However, it always gets a little screwy around conference tourney time. I don't know why but it always seems that way. I just don't see 3 wins at the end of the season having that great an effect on RPI, effectively cutting it in half.

Also, UConn won like 4 games to win that Big East tourney. A lot of those teams were highly ranked and the Big East was loaded that year(iirc) UT will only play 3 games. Only 2 ranked teams. And the SEC is like 8 or 9 in conference RPI. I don't think the committee will see UT winning the SECt as some huge accomplishment.

I would live for UT to win the SECt. But I think a 6, or even a 7, seed is out of reach.
 
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zansdad said:
I like Rpiforcast. I have watched that site for a couple years. However, it always gets a little screwy around conference tourney time. I don't know why but it always seems that way. I just don't see 3 wins at the end of the season having that great an effect on RPI, effectively cutting it in half.

Also, UConn won like 4 games to win that Big East tourney. A lot of those teams were highly ranked and the Big East was loaded that year(iirc) UT will only play 3 games. Only 2 ranked teams. And the SEC is like 8 or 9 in conference RPI. I don't think the committee will see UT winning the SECt as some huge accomplishment.

I would live for UT to win the SECt. But I think a 6, or even a 7, seed is out of reach.
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Kentucky is a 7 on the matrix, Iowa a 8...compare our resumes to theirs if we were to win out.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
Kentucky is a 7 on the matrix, Iowa a 8...compare our resumes to theirs if we were to win out.
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Hopefully we find out if you're right. It's really only conjecture at this point. If they win the thing I'll be way too stoked to care if I was wrong.
 
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#49
I don't see Kentucky losing their first game and I favor them in their second game– it's tourney time guys.

Georgia has been playing some inspired ball fairly consistently. They beat streaky Henderson.

Florida is the best team in the country.

We got about as tough a draw as possible.

Game 1: South Carolina over Auburn
Game 2: Vanderbilt over Miss State

Game 3: Mizzou over Texas A&M
Game 4: Arkansas over USCe
Game 5: Alabama over LSU
Game 6: Ole Miss over Vanderbilt

Game 7: Florida over Mizzou
Game 8: Tennessee over Arkansas
Game 9: Kentucky over Alabama
Game 10: Georgia over Ole Miss

Game 11: Florida over Tennessee
Game 12: Kentucky over Georgia

Game 13: Florida over Kentucky
 
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