Former Marine Was Picked Up By The FBI Over Facebook Posts About 9/11

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YorkVol said:
Where else can you assess whether he is a danger to himself or others?
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They were questioning him in his home. What's wrong with that?

Hell, if it's anything they're good for, it's monitoring a fella.

Of course, it's easier to throw the headcase in the nuthouse.
 
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DinkinFlicka said:
Words. That's all you have on the guy.

Committing someone should only be a result of violent ACTION.
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I think at that point, its too late to do any good. Its like trying to help a person who has already committed suicide....they talked about it before, but it was just words right?
 
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DinkinFlicka said:
They were questioning him in his home. What's wrong with that?

Hell, if it's anything they're good for, it's monitoring a fella.

Of course, it's easier to throw the headcase in the nuthouse.
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There are limits on how long they can hold him if they can't prove he is harmful. They are as accountable as the police in that regard.
 
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DinkinFlicka said:
You're putting words on my keyboard.

fyp
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not at all. No one has any clue why he was committed. All we know is why he was being interviewed. If you would like to believe that he was perfectly rational then that's fine. I personally doubt it really went that way after reading many of his FB posts
 
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utvolpj said:
not at all. No one has any clue why he was committed. All we know is why he was being interviewed. If you would like to believe that he was perfectly rational then that's fine. I personally doubt it really went that way after reading many of his FB posts
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Again, what solid basis do they have that he was a real threat? The FBI ceased involvement after he was committed for assessment.
 
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DinkinFlicka said:
Again, what solid basis do they have that he was a real threat? The FBI ceased involvement after he was committed for assessment.
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If he was actually committed then we won't know the reason because of confidentiality. Even the FBI won't get the full scope of the diagnosis while he is in treatment.

If you went through a psychotic episode of some sort, were picked up by law enforcement and then turned over for assessment and treatment, would you want all the details out there?

Maybe, just maybe, they went to interview him, found he had disconnected from reality for a bit and turned him over to some folks who could help. Maybe he gets some treatment and gets out of the hospital better adjusted to his situation and better able to handle reality. Maybe this isn't the big ugly thing folks are trying to make it.
 
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YorkVol said:
If you went through a psychotic episode of some sort, were picked up by law enforcement and then turned over for assessment and treatment, would you want all the details out there?
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Yes, because if they were, that would keep my friends, family, and anyone who heard about it from drawing their own conclusions.

FWIW, we went through a similar situation with my brother. I know wards aren't all the same, but Bolivar made the situation way worse. It would have been better if the problems were brought to our attention so that we could seek our own help for him.
 
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DinkinFlicka said:
Yes, because if they were, that would keep my friends, family, and anyone who heard about it from drawing their own conclusions.
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You're killing me Smalls. The folks who matter would know. You and I don't need to know. You wouldn't want some future employer, girlfriend, bank loan officer etc to wave a newspaper article in your face 5 years from now.
 
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YorkVol said:
You're killing me Smalls. The folks who matter would know. You and I don't need to know. You wouldn't want some future employer, girlfriend, bank loan officer etc to wave a newspaper article in your face 5 years from now.
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'ay Benny, that article would still say I was committed 5 years ago for something. Don't act like full disclosure is the only way the whistle is blown ;)
 
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DinkinFlicka said:
'ay Benny, that article would still say I was committed 5 years ago for something. Don't act like full disclosure is the only way the whistle is blown ;)
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Ok, I see where you are coming from and your experience with your brother helps understand your position a bit more. Although I don't know your brother's situation, I'm sympathetic as my brother took his own life back in '94. I think the mental health community let him down in some ways, but in other ways I respect that he made a decision after years of torment from bad experiences and ultimately exercised his freedom.

That said, there are pretty wide ranges of psychopathologies. Some people have very short term acute episodes for a variety of reasons and get put in a place that is designed to help them. I would suspect they would want to minimize that event. Others have long term disorders and need long term treatment. They may get a disability rating but still be able to work. The ADA would say the employer only needs to know enough to make proper accommodations and can't not hire them simply because the disability. In both cases I would think the person would want to have just the minimal amount of info in the googlesphere.
 
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