Franklin To Vandie When PSU Fires Him?

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HoptownVol said:
Franklin was an idiot for leaving Vandy, and I doubt they'd have him back.
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Not really. I mean he's an idiot, but that's not why.

What he did at Vandy was the best that could ever happen, during the perfect storm of Tennessee, Florida, and Georgia all being down. That's as good as it would ever get and he still couldn't convince more than 30K to bother to show up. He had hit the ceiling and he had to strike while the iron was hot. He stayed any longer, he wouldn't have better jobs calling.

He'll likely ultimately fail at PSU, but I don't fault him at all for taking it. It was his one shot at coaching at a big time football school (or at least they used to be).
 
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Auburn: Penn State offensive line coach Herb Hand is in the mix to join the Auburn staff, according to USA Today's Dan Wolken
 
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It's like when Dooley had to replace over half the staff before his last season. That's never a good sign.
 
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VolnJC said:
Auburn: Penn State offensive line coach Herb Hand is in the mix to join the Auburn staff, according to USA Today's Dan Wolken
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As many sacks as Hackenberg took this past season -- that would not be a good hire for Auburn
 
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east tn vol fan said:
Your post said James Franklin was an idiot for leaving Vanderbilt. You can't be serious if u think any coaches dream job is Vanderbilt. Come on man
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Meh. Franking could've rode his 3-4 years of success for a solid decade and a couple of raises before Vandy would ditch him.

As far as job security is concerned, that's why he could be seen as an idiot for leaving Vandy. But that's literally it.
 
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PA Vol said:
Meh. Franking could've rode his 3-4 years of success for a solid decade and a couple of raises before Vandy would ditch him.

As far as job security is concerned, that's why he could be seen as an idiot for leaving Vandy. But that's literally it.
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He did the exact same thing butch did. He used success at a smaller school to get a better job. James Franklin is to pen state what kiffin was to usc. Ppl forget about the sanctions and want instant success
 
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east tn vol fan said:
Your post said James Franklin was an idiot for leaving Vanderbilt. You can't be serious if u think any coaches dream job is Vanderbilt. Come on man
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He is an idiot. He had a contract paying him $4mil a year, was living in style in thee best SEC city,
had figured out how to sell Vandy to recruits, and won 9 games twice. Oh yeah, and he got the AD
to commit $40M in upgraded facilities. He was a moron for walking away from that deal. Now he's at
PSU and will start 2016 on the hot seat. Yeah, real smart.
 
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HoptownVol said:
He is an idiot. He had a contract paying him $4mil a year, was living in style in thee best SEC city,
had figured out how to sell Vandy to recruits, and won 9 games twice. Oh yeah, and he got the AD
to commit $40M in upgraded facilities. He was a moron for walking away from that deal. Now he's at
PSU and will start 2016 on the hot seat. Yeah, real smart.
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Franklin had reached his ceiling at Vandy. It's very doubtful that he could win at that level for years to come. The east was very weak during those two years anyways.Why not move to the big 10. You don't have to play the sec schedule or bama in the championship game.the sec is brutal. Vandy was a stepping stone. He may be a moron for choosing penn state with the scandal and sanctions at the moment. But penn state is on a completely different level than Vandy and its in a weaker conference.The dude can coach but just lost his greatest asset
 
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east tn vol fan said:
Franklin had reached his ceiling at Vandy. It's very doubtful that he could win at that level for years to come. The east was very weak during those two years anyways.Why not move to the big 10. You don't have to play the sec schedule or bama in the championship game.the sec is brutal. Vandy was a stepping stone. He may be a moron for choosing penn state with the scandal and sanctions at the moment. But penn state is on a completely different level than Vandy and its in a weaker conference.The dude can coach but just lost his greatest asset
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Are you serious? You're living in Nashville, you convinced the admin to give you $40M for upgrades,
you figured out how to sell Vandy to recruits, and all you have to do is win 7-8 or 6 games occasionally
to keep your job, I mean seriously are you people nuts?

He was making $4M at Vandy! At frigging Vandy!!! The guy had it made, he's a fool for leaving. And
you people are nuts for saying he made a good decision. Sheez!
 
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HoptownVol said:
Are you serious? You're living in Nashville, you convinced the admin to give you $40M for upgrades,
you figured out how to sell Vandy to recruits, and all you have to do is win 7-8 or 6 games occasionally
to keep your job, I mean seriously are you people nuts?

He was making $4M at Vandy! At frigging Vandy!!! The guy had it made, he's a fool for leaving. And
you people are nuts for saying he made a good decision. Sheez!
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It's Vandy. Not even money or job security could keep him there. That should tell you what Franklin really thinks of the place. I mean who couldn't get pumped playing in that high school stadium filled with the other teams colors.You don't get that it's not a major program. Plus there is no coach that wants to settle for 7 to 8 wins. Good coaches have goals that are set high. No ones goals is to achieve mediocrity! If it's such a great place, then why aren't any good coaches beating the door down?
 
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HoptownVol said:
Are you serious? You're living in Nashville, you convinced the admin to give you $40M for upgrades,
you figured out how to sell Vandy to recruits, and all you have to do is win 7-8 or 6 games occasionally
to keep your job, I mean seriously are you people nuts?

He was making $4M at Vandy! At frigging Vandy!!! The guy had it made, he's a fool for leaving. And
you people are nuts for saying he made a good decision. Sheez!
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I think he had it made too. How many more years would it buy if he beat Bama or another of the big boys once? I think he was greedy, considers himself a better coach than he is, and knew Tn would not be down for much longer and wanted to leave before the annual beat downs started again.
 
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beamerman said:
I think he had it made too. How many more years would it buy if he beat Bama or another of the big boys once? I think he was greedy, considers himself a better coach than he is, and knew Tn would not be down for much longer and wanted to leave before the annual beat downs started again.
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Beat bama?Not going to happen with his offensive scheme
 
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It's pretty simple. Franklin had a choice: stay at Vandy where he had several years of job security built up but also was seeing his window of success rapidly closing. With UT on the rise, UF coming back, and Georgia probably not staying down that long, soon he would be playing all 3 at full strength and that would mean 6-6 would soon be as good at it gets.

Or cash in while his name is hot and get a premium job. Sure it's a gamble going to a place like PSU, where constant 6-6 seasons will get you a pink slip in 3 years, but if actually had aspirations to be a big time college coach, he had to take the gamble.

It's easy to see Franklin isn't a Bobby Johnson type that's fine with staying at Vandy for a long time and be fine with occasional bowl games. I don't blame him at all for cashing in, but it's no surprise he's likely going to end up a bust. He'll get another head coaching job at a lower P5 or mid major school, but IMHO his likely short tenure at PSU will be as high as he gets.
 
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HoptownVol said:
Are you serious? You're living in Nashville, you convinced the admin to give you $40M for upgrades,
you figured out how to sell Vandy to recruits, and all you have to do is win 7-8 or 6 games occasionally
to keep your job, I mean seriously are you people nuts?

He was making $4M at Vandy! At frigging Vandy!!! The guy had it made, he's a fool for leaving. And
you people are nuts for saying he made a good decision. Sheez!
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You've been angry in recent days.
 
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