Franks to Arkansas

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05_never_again said:
I think that's because he simply isn't very good. It's kind of hard to find your "true identity" when you light it up in practice, and in spots in games, but balance that against "What the hell was he thinking?" type plays.
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But I think he’s had very good moments. He has the most bipolar film you can imagine with big time throws that make everyone say “good God!” but then moments where the same people say “wtf was that?! With his measurables and the good part of his tape, someone in the NFL will take a shot on him.

So he’s certainly inconsistent.
 
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Jaws said:
But I think he’s had very good moments. He has the most bipolar film you can imagine with big time throws that make everyone say “good God!” but then moments where the same people say “wtf was that?! With his measurables and the good part of his tape, someone in the NFL will take a shot on him.

So he’s certainly inconsistent.
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His arm strength is impressive and he has the prototypical size for a QB. His decision making is not the greatest though.
 
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Jaws said:
But I think he’s had very good moments. He has the most bipolar film you can imagine with big time throws that make everyone say “good God!” but then moments where the same people say “wtf was that?! With his measurables and the good part of his tape, someone in the NFL will take a shot on him.

So he’s certainly inconsistent.
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TN fans know what he can look like. He was another one we always made look better than he was
 
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Franks is an uber talented kid, handled all of this the right way too...Would love nothing more than for him to have an all American season and get drafted high.
 
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Just for context...

Franks passing efficiency rating:
2019: 173.4 (just 3 games)
2018: 143.4
2017: 113.3

Arkansas in 2019: 109.4 (Starkel), 94.6 (Hicks)

He may not be all that great but he's significantly better than Arkansas' QB play last year. I read where he may apply for a 6th year too since he got hurt so early in the season this year.
 
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gohogs14 said:
Just for context...

Franks passing efficiency rating:
2019: 173.4 (just 3 games)
2018: 143.4
2017: 113.3

Arkansas in 2019: 109.4 (Starkel), 94.6 (Hicks)

He may not be all that great but he's significantly better than Arkansas' QB play last year. I read where he may apply for a 6th year too since he got hurt so early in the season this year.
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Well in 2019, he started against Miami, UT Martin, and Kentucky so there's that. In his entire career as a starter at UF, he only threw for over 200 yards against an SEC opponent THREE times and never over 300 against anyone with UF's talent. Kyle Trask threw for over 300 yards in four starts in his first partial season alone. Trask at his worst is better than Franks at his best.
 
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Jaws said:
But I think he’s had very good moments. He has the most bipolar film you can imagine with big time throws that make everyone say “good God!” but then moments where the same people say “wtf was that?! With his measurables and the good part of his tape, someone in the NFL will take a shot on him.

So he’s certainly inconsistent.
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I’ve seen him do some good things, but I think the 2 most recent memories I have of him are the Miami game where he was acting like a complete clown during and after the game. And then the UK game, where I think I could make a good argument that you would have lost if Trask had not come in after that horrible injury.

I think you are right, his game is very bipolar, but as you said he doesn’t really know his identity. I think he and JG are pretty good friends. I’d love to know what those 2 guys talk about when it comes to football.
 
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RDU VOL#14 said:
I’ve seen him do some good things, but I think the 2 most recent memories I have of him are the Miami game where he was acting like a complete clown during and after the game. And then the UK game, where I think I could make a good argument that you would have lost if Trask had not come in after that horrible injury.
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Agree on both points. His sideline demeanor v Miami was odd, but odd because he had spent 3 years being the complete opposite, almost shy. Also agree Trask won the game for UF v Kentucky.

But then there are other games; Michigan Peach Bowl game. He was great, Florida won BECAUSE of him not in spite of him. The Tennessee game in Knoxville in 2018. He was lights-out, throwing strikes all over the place. 2018 v FSU in Tallahassee was also outstanding. Franks ended his UF career with 46 TDs (rushing and passing) v 17 picks. That’s a pretty darn good ratio for a guy who gets so much negativity thrown his way.

So again, he’s bipolar. And I also agree that JG is very similar. Some games and moments where JG looks like Drew Brees, other moments where he looks like Drew Barrymore.
 
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Jaws said:
Agree on both points. His sideline demeanor v Miami was odd, but odd because he had spent 3 years being the complete opposite, almost shy. Also agree Trask won the game for UF v Kentucky.

But then there are other games; Michigan Peach Bowl game. He was great, Florida won BECAUSE of him not in spite of him. The Tennessee game in Knoxville in 2018. He was lights-out, throwing strikes all over the place. 2018 v FSU in Tallahassee was also outstanding. Franks ended his UF career with 42 TDs (rushing and passing) v 17 picks. That’s a pretty darn good ratio for a guy who gets so much negativity thrown his way.

So again, he’s bipolar. And I also agree that JG is very similar. Some games and moments where JG looks like Drew Brees, other moments where he looks like Drew Barrymore.
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Umm he was 9-18 for 172 yards against UT in 2018 and that is "throwing strikes all over the place"? His Peach Bowl stats were 13-23 for 173 yards, even when you try to come up with good examples they aren't very good.
 
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landscapingvol said:
Umm he was 9-18 for 172 yards against UT in 2018 and that is "throwing strikes all over the place"? His Peach Bowl stats were 13-23 for 173 yards, even when you try to come up with good examples they aren't very good.
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Franks played well in both of those games. Interesting that you leave out his TD’s in that Tennessee game because he accounted for 4 (3 passing and 1 rushing). And yes, those 3 TD passes were strikes all over the place. I can post a video if you’d really like. It was the most points UF has ever scored in Neyland and he was the starting QB. And versus Michigan, you neglected to include his rushing stats, 74 yards rushing and 2 TD’s. And you also failed to point out he had zero turnovers in both games. Look, I can cherry pick games where his stat line is even better, but those two games stood out because he played very well against good opponents.

I’m not saying the guy is the greatest ever, not at all. But I am saying he was better than people like you give him credit for.
 
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Jaws said:
Franks played well in both of those games. Interesting that you leave out his TD’s in that Tennessee game because he accounted for 4 (3 passing and 1 rushing). And yes, those 3 TD passes were strikes all over the place. I can post a video if you’d really like. It was the most points UF has ever scored in Neyland and he was the starting QB. And versus Michigan, you neglected to include his rushing stats, 74 yards rushing and 2 TD’s. And you also failed to point out he had zero turnovers in both games. Look, I can cherry pick games where his stat line is even better, but those two games stood out because he played very well against good opponents.

I’m not saying the guy is the greatest ever, not at all. But I am saying he was better than people like you give him credit for.
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50% completion rate isn't good for any college qb much less one with UF's talent regardless of how you attempt to spin it; JG is an average qb at best and he has a 60% completion rate for his career. FF didn't have a 60% completion rate in either year as a starter, that is below average for a college qb. He won't have nearly the same talent to throw to at Arkansas and much less time to learn the system.
 
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landscapingvol said:
50% completion rate isn't good for any college qb much less one with UF's talent regardless of how you attempt to spin it; JG is an average qb at best and he has a 60% completion rate for his career. FF didn't have a 60% completion rate in either year as a starter, that is below average for a college qb. He won't have nearly the same talent to throw to at Arkansas and much less time to learn the system.
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You’re ragging on his stats in the games I cited but conveniently leave out his 4 TD’s in one of the games. Franks was 14-3 under Mullen and finished his career with 46 TD’s against 17 picks. Again, I’m not saying he was great, but there have been a helluva lot worse than Franks and there are many, many teams who would happily take a QB with 46 TD’s v 17 picks.

If you’re comparing Franks v JG, it’s not close. Franks has accounted for 13 more TD’s in 7 fewer games played. And I’ll let you research JG’s overall win-loss record but I’m pretty sure it’s not as good as Franks, plus Franks won head-to-head v JG twice.

Again, not sure what your point is on this thread. If you’re trying to tell me Franks was horrible, I’ll agree he was horrible, maybe even worse that horrible, under Jim Mcewain. But under Dan Mullen he ranged from average to good, albeit inconsistent.
 
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Jaws said:
You’re ragging on his stats in the games I cited but conveniently leave out his 4 TD’s in one of the games. Franks was 14-3 under Mullen and finished his career with 46 TD’s against 17 picks. Again, I’m not saying he was great, but there have been a helluva lot worse than Franks and there are many, many teams who would happily take a QB with 46 TD’s v 17 picks.

If you’re comparing Franks v JG, it’s not close. Franks has accounted for 13 more TD’s in 7 fewer games played. And I’ll let you research JG’s overall win-loss record but I’m pretty sure it’s not as good as Franks, plus Franks won head-to-head v JG twice.

Again, not sure what your point is on this thread. If you’re trying to tell me Franks was horrible, I’ll agree he was horrible, maybe even worse that horrible, under Jim Mcewain. But under Dan Mullen he ranged from average to good, albeit inconsistent.
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Umm no I am not, his completion percentage for 2017 was 54% and 58% in 2018; JG's was 62% in 2017, 62% in 2018, and 59% in 2019 for an average of roughly 61% contrast that to Franks who never completed above 60% of his passes for a majority of any season much less a whole season. They had virtually the same qbr in 2018 with JG having a better one in 2017. Their seasons for 2019 are incomparable considering that FF played in 2.5 games with this vast majority of his high qbr and completion percentage coming against UT Martin while JG played a majority of the entire season. No one would consider them "good" qb's and one is transferring to Arkansas with considerable less talent and a new scheme, that is my point in terms of Arkansas "finding" their qb.
 
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