Frats are the lifeblood of UT, Who is best?

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GreveHaller said:
ah. Not UT. So you are crusse are really debating two entirely different things.

Sorry, K but going to UT and going to ETSU/MTSU, Tn Tech, etc....are not comparable in the least. I hear your animosity against frats but its the same as non fraters from those similar schools. For UT, the decision to be in or not be in a frat doesnt really matter. I wasnt in one at all but that doesnt mean me nor anyone I knew hated them. To be in one was an option just like not being in one. No big deal.

The biggest advantage was that at UT you didnt hang with those you ran around with in HS. With the enourmous amount of people that go to UT you got to meet others outside of your home comfort zone. I wouldnt trade any that experience. I was lucky enough to meet a bunch of guys on my floor in Greve Hall (thus the nom) and now 32 years later I still run around with them. None of us went to HS together and we all came from different ends of the state, some out of state. But there are nothing like my HS friends. Its different.

As I left to go to UT as a freshman my mother looked at me and said "you are going up to have the most fun you'll have in your life and the friends you make will be your friends for life". I blew it off as mom speak. It took me about 10 years to figure she was right. 32 later she's still right.
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Well thats a good story. I went to a small high school and only knew a person or two at Etsu. I lived on campus with two complete strangers and had dorm room fun and all but havent spoken to anyone I met in that dorm room, roommates included, since I moved out.


And I don't hate everyone in frats idk why you're implying that. As I mentioned one of my roommates was in a frat and he was s a cool guy we partied and stuff all the time. I was in the frat house many nights and know exactly what its like. I can see why people join them...I just hold a different opinion of them than you.


But I suppose frats at probably different at UT than they are at Etsu. But I bet they are pretty similar in a lot of ways too.

Idk. I guess for me I pretty much grew up with my high school friends. Thats years and years of forming bonds and **** versus meeting someone for the first time in college. I'm sure a lot of people don't really like their high school friends because I mean its high school who cares right but i guess its just a different situation for me.
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#352
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K-town Vol Fan said:
Frats are lame. People who pay hundreds of dollars to join them are lame too in my book. Its pretty much like paying to have friends.
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This was always my take as well....my perspective is I was at UTK 69-74, graduated with a BSEE, worked a fulltime job the entire time plus others when I could, played lots of tennis as well as teaching it, had a business venture on the strip for a couple of years, tended bar a year or two on the strip, got completely 'absorbed' in a couple of hobby's I still enjoy today, soaked up as much music, politics and fun than you can imagine and most importantly stayed out of Vietnam....I loved it...

I'm still in touch with a few friends from then including my best friend...Looking back I have no idea when I got the energy....
 
#356
#356
This debate never ends. I joined one and I loved it during my time. We pretty much used Animal House as our guiding light. Community service wassomething we talked about when we were about to get tossed off campus for alcohol and drug violations or bad grades. Everyone in my house was thoroughly debauched. Most of the best looking women on our campus were our little sisters or dated members or at least showed up at our parties. And our parties were the best with the best bands and the freest flowing booze. It was awesome and if that kind of hedonism appeals to you as it did me at that age then I wonder why the he'll anyone wouldn't join if they're able to. And yeah, I still vacation with several of my pledge brothers annually along with our families. We meet up for football games and visit each other in our respective hometowns. I can't say membership ever got me a job but I know it got me interviews and I doubt it hurt.
 
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K-town Vol Fan said:
Again, it can be done. With some good marketing strategy it could be done easily.
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So, go do it or something similar. Get a group of people together, decide on the project, do some planning, put on the event and give some cash to the charity. Don't be surprised if at some point your group realizes you share some commonalities and decides to stick around to see if you can do future events. Also don't be surprised if someone suggests maybe you do a social event to celebrate your successful venture, or maybe as a team building event before launch. Next thing you know, you'll want to organize, put some structure in the group, pool your resources so you have snacks at your meetings and maybe buy a banner to put up at your events. Sooner or later you'll appoint a membership committee to bring in fresh recruits and will want to have some written materials that explain who you are and what you are about. You might even decide that living together might be a good way to continue to grow and bond so you can further your cause. Next thing you know, you'll have your own fraternity.
 
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YorkVol said:
So, go do it or something similar. Get a group of people together, decide on the project, do some planning, put on the event and give some cash to the charity. Don't be surprised if at some point your group realizes you share some commonalities and decides to stick around to see if you can do future events. Also don't be surprised if someone suggests maybe you do a social event to celebrate your successful venture, or maybe as a team building event before launch. Next thing you know, you'll want to organize, put some structure in the group, pool your resources so you have snacks at your meetings and maybe buy a banner to put up at your events. Sooner or later you'll appoint a membership committee to bring in fresh recruits and will want to have some written materials that explain who you are and what you are about. You might even decide that living together might be a good way to continue to grow and bond so you can further your cause. Next thing you know, you'll have your own fraternity.
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Facial, LaFleur
 
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YorkVol said:
So, go do it or something similar. Get a group of people together, decide on the project, do some planning, put on the event and give some cash to the charity. Don't be surprised if at some point your group realizes you share some commonalities and decides to stick around to see if you can do future events. Also don't be surprised if someone suggests maybe you do a social event to celebrate your successful venture, or maybe as a team building event before launch. Next thing you know, you'll want to organize, put some structure in the group, pool your resources so you have snacks at your meetings and maybe buy a banner to put up at your events. Sooner or later you'll appoint a membership committee to bring in fresh recruits and will want to have some written materials that explain who you are and what you are about. You might even decide that living together might be a good way to continue to grow and bond so you can further your cause. Next thing you know, you'll have your own fraternity.
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buying friends, imo
 
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YorkVol said:
So, go do it or something similar. Get a group of people together, decide on the project, do some planning, put on the event and give some cash to the charity. Don't be surprised if at some point your group realizes you share some commonalities and decides to stick around to see if you can do future events. Also don't be surprised if someone suggests maybe you do a social event to celebrate your successful venture, or maybe as a team building event before launch. Next thing you know, you'll want to organize, put some structure in the group, pool your resources so you have snacks at your meetings and maybe buy a banner to put up at your events. Sooner or later you'll appoint a membership committee to bring in fresh recruits and will want to have some written materials that explain who you are and what you are about. You might even decide that living together might be a good way to continue to grow and bond so you can further your cause. Next thing you know, you'll have your own fraternity.
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Wow thats a lot of assumptions there. Including the assumption that I want to put on a boxing tournament. I don't. But I'm sure if someone really wanted to then they could. Thats all I'm trying to say.
 
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K-town Vol Fan said:
Wow thats a lot of assumptions there. Including the assumption that I want to put on a boxing tournament. I don't. But I'm sure if someone really wanted to then they could. Thats all I'm trying to say.
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No way can a group of guys get together without strict structure and, in 4 years, make an event that could compete with the national publicity received by SAE's tourney. That's something that took them a solid 20+ years to get to the level that SI said it's something you MUST attend while in college.
 
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K-town Vol Fan said:
Wow thats a lot of assumptions there. Including the assumption that I want to put on a boxing tournament. I don't. But I'm sure if someone really wanted to then they could. Thats all I'm trying to say.
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Yet the people who do organize it year in and year out are "lame as hell".

Someone needs to tell the editors at Sports Illustrated that the boxing tournament is "Lame as Hell" and that it isnt "The biggest party weekend in the South"
 
#367
#367
The ONLY people that like frat guys are frat guys. The high-fiving, popped collars and pastel-colored clothing worthy of the finest Easter Sunday are just too much
 
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K-town Vol Fan said:
Wow thats a lot of assumptions there. Including the assumption that I want to put on a boxing tournament. I don't. But I'm sure if someone really wanted to then they could. Thats all I'm trying to say.
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Well of course they could. My point is this is how frats started and how many operate today. Your view is based on a small slice of who they appear to be. Most have much more substance than you realise.
 
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Ducreux said:
Bingo....HUGE bingo....was a 'bingo' when was a student 40+ years ago, was a bingo when my children attended 10+ years ago and bingo now...in fact I feel strongly that they serve as an detriment to the institution and as someone who in my +40 year career interviewed thousands and hired hundreds (all professional, mostly technical ) I think they serve as an detriment the participant...
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To amend my earlier post.....as a fairly young (my late 20's. Early 30's) manager in a large company I hired a lot college grads just out of college or out with 1-3 years experience....if in the interviews I sensed they were still 'defined' by being in a frat I would probably pass on them...factoring in the growth and evolution equation...same if they were 'eaten up' with having been a jock, or overly creative type....
 
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Insunseri said:
Are you in fratboy denial?
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No. Then again, I never wore a popped collar. Also, I had lots of friends outside of the fraternity and I've maintained friendships with frat brothers and non-frat friends for nearly 30 years now.
 
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SDV said:
It's no different than joining any other organization. If you've never been apart of one, you honestly have no idea what you are talking about. Was in one at UT and they continue to be my closest friends to this day.
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Frats just have the percentage of guys that are total douches. I never really had an issue except for fijis. Bunch of meatheads.
 
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Insunseri said:
The ONLY people that like frat guys are frat guys. The high-fiving, popped collars and pastel-colored clothing worthy of the finest Easter Sunday are just too much
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The only time I see popped collars are from people very separated from the Greek community.
 
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