From another site; on cheating specifics (rumor)

[tvols75]

How do you know for sure if it was actually Parrish talking? Did you see him? Nothing but assumptions at this point.

This is so dumb. Let's see article by Parrish on CBS and now on govolsxtra or the logic that since "there are many well documented rumors on a message board that proves Bruce Pearl has been cheating all along."

 

[LawVol13]

i'm a UK fan so i know exactly where you're coming from on this. believe it or not, i hope that it all blows over and nothing comes of it. I think BP is a great fit @ UT and has done wonders for ur program. Like u said though, take the message board stuff, read it and forget it and wait for substantial stuff to come out from people who really matter (UT/NCAA). Other than that, you just gotta wait out the storm.

No, I actually have no doubt that this newest allegation is true. Bruce Pearl's a liar and a hypocrite. That post was just a sarcastic response to tvols, who demands sources from people when they claim things like, "the sky is blue."

 

[LawVol13]

This is so dumb. Let's see article by Parrish on CBS and now on govolsxtra or the logic that since "there are many well documented rumors on a message board that proves Bruce Pearl has been cheating all along."

So, Parrish and GVX are both now saying that Pearl was cheating in other ways than just the excessive contacts? I'm truly shocked that the phone calls weren't Pearl's "one and only misstep."

 

[tvols75]

No, I actually have no doubt that this newest allegation is true. Bruce Pearl's a liar and a hypocrite. That post was just a sarcastic response to tvols, who demands sources from people when they claim things like, "the sky is blue."

Actually I claim sources from people who try to pass assumptions on as fact. But you stick to those who hate Pearl like hat for your information. It's like reading a book from a Southerner who claims the South won the Civil War. Not biased or slanted at all is it?

Parrish on the other hand is well connected and actually provides an article that coincides with what the letter of inquiry stated. Can you tell me when a LOI that stated specific areas being looked at included anything more? Yet, somehow Bruce has been paying players, fixing grades, and the list goes on and the NCAA will find it all and even if they don't that means the NCAA is just a bunch of morons that can't find anything, and Pearl will still be guilty of those "internet rumors."

 

[tvols75]

So, Parrish and GVX are both now saying that Pearl was cheating in other ways than just the excessive contacts? I'm truly shocked that the phone calls weren't Pearl's "one and only misstep."

Did you read the letter of inquiry provided by the NCAA? "Contact with recruits" is being investigated. Guess what recruits at a house is "excessive contact" so continue on posting your "facts."

 

[LawVol13]

Did you read the letter of inquiry provided by the NCAA? "Contact with recruits" is being investigated. Guess what recruits at a house is "excessive contact" so continue on posting your "facts."

Oh, so you knew about this all along, I see. You were just holding out on us when you pretended the only thing Pearl was doing was making impermissible telephone calls and lying about it.

 

[LawVol13]

Did you read the letter of inquiry provided by the NCAA? "Contact with recruits" is being investigated. Guess what recruits at a house is "excessive contact" so continue on posting your "facts."

Actually, it's not the same thing according to John Bryce on Volquest. But I'm sure you know a lot more than those guys.

 

[tvols75]

Oh, so you knew about this all along, I see. You were just holding out on us when you pretended the only thing Pearl was doing was making impermissible telephone calls and lying about it.

When did I say all that Pearl did was making impermissible telephone calls? The letter of inquiry stated that they were looking at contact with recruits or as Wes Rucker stated in his article "excessive contact between coaches and recruits." No matter if it's phone calls or visiting Pearl's house, it's the same issue.

No one knew what Pearl lied about until Parrish provided a story that coincides with the LOI, and it was dealing with Selby and Craft visiting Pearl's home. Pearl said it didn't happen, which it did.

 

[LawVol13]

When did I say all that Pearl did was making impermissible telephone calls?

It was hatvol, just go ahead and admit it.

The letter of inquiry is dealing with the phones. Nothing else was stated. When it comes out that none of the "rumors" you posted are true when the NCAA finishes up in December will you admit you're wrong?

This looks familiar.

 

[tvols75]

Actually, it's not the same thing according to John Bryce on Volquest. But I'm sure you know a lot more than those guys.

Really? What do you call it then? High school juniors are not allowed to have dealings with college coaches away from campus, this according to Parrish.

Excessive is defined as "going beyond the usual, necessary, or proper limit or degree."

Is this not defined as going beyond the usual, necessary, or proper limit or degree of contact with a recruit.

What would you defined this situation as?

 

[tvols75]

This looks familiar.

It all falls under the same thing. Excessive contact! Calling someone, having them over for your house, going to their house more than is allowed, going to visit them more than is allowed, etc...

 

[The Dude]

The entire situation is no big deal.

 

[tvols75]

This looks familiar.

And I took that from sporting news. The inquiry actually stated excessive contact, but sporting news reported just phone calls. It's a mute point though considering it all falls under the same category and that is "excessive contact" with recruits.

 

[LawVol13]

It all falls under the same thing. Excessive contact! Calling someone, having them over for your house, going to their house more than is allowed, going to visit them more than is allowed, etc...

Looks like Hamilton also feels that this is different than what the original investigation centered around.

"Prior to the investigation of our football program, the NCAA had initiated a look into telephone activity surrounding our basketball program and a potential of excessive phone calls to recruits. We have some level of exposure there, and we'll deal with these issues in the appropriate manner.

But I'm sure you're right. It's all just the same.

 

[tvols75]

Looks like Hamilton also feels that this is different than what the original investigation centered around.



But I'm sure you're right. It's all just the same.

Hamilton knew what Pearl lied about. Apparently it was over Craft.

So are you really going to say that a recruit going to a coach's house is not "excessive contact with a recruit."

 

[LawVol13]

Yet another clipping. This time from GVX.

Pearl and members of his staff provided the inaccurate and incomplete information to the NCAA in interviews that centered around the basketball program's making an excess of phone calls to prospective recruits.

So, if it hasn't started to sink in yet. This is something in addition to their original investigation.

 

[NYYVol]

Hamilton knew what Pearl lied about. Apparently it was over Craft.

So are you really going to say that a recruit going to a coach's house is not "excessive contact with a recruit."

Apparently? Prove it.
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[tvols75]

Yet another clipping. This time from GVX.



So, if it hasn't started to sink in yet. This is something in addition to their original investigation.

Then Parrish's article is wrong and the govolsxtra contradicted itself considering they are reporting the same now.

 

[LawVol13]

Then Parrish's article is wrong and the govolsxtra contradicted itself considering they are reporting the same now.

No, GVX is calling this the "latest violation."

 

[NYYVol]

Then Parrish's article is wrong and the govolsxtra contradicted itself considering they are reporting the same now.

Prove it.
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[tvols75]

No, GVX is calling this the "latest violation."

Really?

This according to Govolsxtra:

The source confirmed that Pearl and his assistant coaches, when asked in initial NCAA interviews on June 14 if they recognized where the photo was taken, said they did not.

So can you tell me how this is the "latest violation when this happened back in June and this is what Pearl lied about?

"The latest violation" that you are referring to means they just now found out not that the NCAA just all of a sudden found this and is using it now.

 

[NYYVol]

Really?

This according to Govolsxtra:

The source confirmed that Pearl and his assistant coaches, when asked in initial NCAA interviews on June 14 if they recognized where the photo was taken, said they did not.

So can you tell me how this is the "latest violation when this happened back in June and this is what Pearl lied about?

"The latest violation" that you are referring to means they just now found out not that the NCAA just all of a sudden found this and is using it now.

I am willing to bet you struggled with timelines in school.
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[LawVol13]

Really?

This according to Govolsxtra:

The source confirmed that Pearl and his assistant coaches, when asked in initial NCAA interviews on June 14 if they recognized where the photo was taken, said they did not.

So can you tell me how this is the "latest violation when this happened back in June and this is what Pearl lied about?

"The latest violation" that you are referring to means they just now found out not that the NCAA just all of a sudden found this and is using it now.

This is not the only thing Pearl lied about. How hard is it to understand? This is another violation on top of the excessive contacts that he provided misleading info about. How could he provide misleading information about a picture that the NCAA already had in its possession when it asked Pearl?

 

[LawVol13]

While this doesn’t seem to be as major as handing a prospect the keys to a Lexus, the rules are in place for a reason and Pearl knows them — or should — by heart. If this story is correct, he chose to break yet another rule. And he lied about it (which he’d already admitted to doing).

But don't take my word for it.

 

[tvols75]

This is not the only thing Pearl lied about. How hard is it to understand? This is another violation on top of the excessive contacts that he provided misleading info to. How could he provide misleading information about a picture that the NCAA already had in its possession when it asked Pearl?

Stated in the Press Conference, Pearl provided misleading information in a small segment of questioning in June. This happened in June and this is what he lied about, how hard is that to understand?