Frosh RBs of 1997

#26
#26
(hatvol96 @ May 13 said:
No. They were a bunch of guys, especially Davis, who feasted on running against smaller kids in high school. When they had to take on the kind of players who inhabit D-I, they were just average players. From a talent standpoint, none of those three could carry Cobb or Webb's bags. Jabari Davis and Cedric houston are Exhibits #s 2 and 3, behind 1 and 1a OJ Owens and Robert Boulware, as to why I put next to no stock in recruiting analysts. I remember one idiot comparing Cedric Houston to Barry Sanders.
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If you look at the style of the 2 backs at Auburn they both had an effective similar running styles. They both ran very low to the ground and got their pads under tacklers, and then drove through them. They also had great strength. I think this is a reflection of their training and conditioning, their coaches put the emphasis on running low to the ground and getting under tacklers and it reflected in their running style.

None of UT's back had an outstanding running style. They didnt really get much better as seniors then they were when they were freshmen. Statistically what are chances of recruiting 3 players ranked in the top 10 in their recruiting class at the same position and all of them be overrated? Its almost a statistically anomoly. Its like over half the 10 ten RB in each recruiting class dont make it? I think these players had potential that didnt really mature and develop.
 
#27
#27
(oklavol @ May 14 said:
If you look at the style of the 2 backs at Auburn they both had an effective similar running styles. They both ran very low to the ground and got their pads under tacklers, and then drove through them. They also had great strength. I think this is a reflection of their training and conditioning, their coaches put the emphasis on running low to the ground and getting under tacklers and it reflected in their running style.

None of UT's back had an outstanding running style. They didnt really get much better as seniors then they were when they were freshmen. Statistically what are chances of recruiting 3 players ranked in the top 10 in their recruiting class at the same position and all of them be overrated? Its almost a statistically anomoly. Its like over half the 10 ten RB in each recruiting class dont make it? I think these players had potential that didnt really mature and develop.
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I just think none of the three had outstanding talent.
 
#28
#28
(oklavol @ May 13 said:
If you look at the style of the 2 backs at Auburn they both had an effective similar running styles. They both ran very low to the ground and got their pads under tacklers, and then drove through them. They also had great strength. I think this is a reflection of their training and conditioning, their coaches put the emphasis on running low to the ground and getting under tacklers and it reflected in their running style.

None of UT's back had an outstanding running style. They didnt really get much better as seniors then they were when they were freshmen. Statistically what are chances of recruiting 3 players ranked in the top 10 in their recruiting class at the same position and all of them be overrated? Its almost a statistically anomoly. Its like over half the 10 ten RB in each recruiting class dont make it? I think these players had potential that didnt really mature and develop.
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Cedric Houston got tackled more times by his shoelaces than a defensive player. And the only good game I remember Jabari Davis having was against Florida in the Swamp.

Auburn had 3 great running backs and another good one. Out of the 3 great RB's, one had to transfer, but still made it to the NFL.
 
#29
#29
I think most people who saw Davis and Houston agree that there just wasn't much dynamic about either of them. To be fair, they played behind a couple of underachieving o-lines, but neither of them displayed much of a knack for vision or making the first guy miss.

I suspect that if Davis had any ability or desire to block, he would have been moved to fullback and would possibly be in the NFL right now.
 
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(Jasongivm6 @ May 14 said:
Cedric Houston got tackled more times by his shoelaces than a defensive player. And the only good game I remember Jabari Davis having was against Florida in the Swamp.

Auburn had 3 great running backs and another good one. Out of the 3 great RB's, one had to transfer, but still made it to the NFL.
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Didnt you notice how all of Auburn's back had similar running styles? They ran the same. To me thats a reflection on coaching a certain tecnique that all their players adopted. The other thing about Auburn that stood out was their superb conditioning. On defense, at RB, etc they were in strong and fast. Coaching has a big impact on conditioning.
 
#33
#33
I liked Hayden too. I think he kind of got lost in the shuffle behind James Stewart and Charlie Garner. He always was a reliable backup and 3rd down back though.
 
#34
#34
(oklavol @ May 14 said:
Didnt you notice how all of Auburn's back had similar running styles? They ran the same. To me thats a reflection on coaching a certain tecnique that all their players adopted. The other thing about Auburn that stood out was their superb conditioning. On defense, at RB, etc they were in strong and fast. Coaching has a big impact on conditioning.
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That comes from Tuberville's years at Miami. Conditioning has been the cornerstone of Miami's success.
 
#35
#35
(GAVol @ May 14 said:
I think most people who saw Davis and Houston agree that there just wasn't much dynamic about either of them. To be fair, they played behind a couple of underachieving o-lines, but neither of them displayed much of a knack for vision or making the first guy miss.

I suspect that if Davis had any ability or desire to block, he would have been moved to fullback and would possibly be in the NFL right now.
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I agree. Everyone expected him to move to FB and do well. Big mistake on his part.
 
#36
#36
(hatvol96 @ May 14 said:
That comes from Tuberville's years at Miami. Conditioning has been the cornerstone of Miami's success.
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I agree. This is an area where Fulmer has dropped the ball and hasn't put enough attention and focus. I looked at Auburn coaching staff last year, they had 4 conditioning coaches.
 
#37
#37
(GAVol @ May 14 said:
I liked Hayden too. I think he kind of got lost in the shuffle behind James Stewart and Charlie Garner. He always was a reliable backup and 3rd down back though.
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There you go, Stewart,Garner and Hayden have to rank somewhere! Atleast UT wise!
 
#38
#38
(oklavol @ May 14 said:
I agree. This is an area where Fulmer has dropped the ball and hasn't put enough attention and focus. I looked at Auburn coaching staff last year, they had 4 conditioning coaches.
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Stoops is another coach who is fanatical about conditioning. Jerry Schmidt at OU has the reputation as being one of the best strength and conditioning coaches in the business.
 
#39
#39
I thought Haydn had knee surgery and wasnt the same player. He did have a couple of years in the pro's. nothing like James Stewart had though. Stewart just had superior size.
 
#40
#40
Conditioning, we don't need no stinking conditioning! But I would settle for ONE good Special Teams coach!
 
#41
#41
(oklavol @ May 14 said:
I thought Haydn had knee surgery and wasnt the same player. He did have a couple of years in the pro's. nothing like James Stewart had though. Stewart just had superior size.
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But Hayden could pick up the tough yards.
 
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#42
I heard somewhere that Cedric Houston had some undiagnosed condition that made him somewhat sluggish. Maybe that's why he started off well as a freshman, but then disappointed as a sophomore and junior. Anyway, I heard he's on medication now, and should be pretty decent in the NFL. This might all be untrue, however.
 
#43
#43
(kptvol @ May 14 said:
I heard somewhere that Cedric Houston had some undiagnosed condition that made him somewhat sluggish. Maybe that's why he started off well as a freshman, but then disappointed as a sophomore and junior. Anyway, I heard he's on medication now, and should be pretty decent in the NFL. This might all be untrue, however.
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yeah he got diagnoses with a thyroid condition by a doc on the jets. I'm surprised none of the trainers at UT didnt diagnose it earler.
 
#44
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(oklavol @ May 14 said:
yeah he got diagnoses with a thyroid condition by a doc on the jets. I'm surprised none of the trainers at UT didnt diagnose it earler.
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Might need to doo a thyroid profile on the entire team including the coaches. :biggrin2:
 
#45
#45
(rockydoc @ May 14 said:
Might need to doo a thyroid profile on the entire team including the coaches. :biggrin2:
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We have some coaches who treat their thyroid conditions with pie.
 
#48
#48
priest holmes and ricky williams werent' bad. but i think that barry sanders/thurman thomas takes the cake.
 
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#50
The Auburn group of Ronnie Brown and Cadillac Williams - also, Kenny Irons who was a monster last year plus the guy who started for Auburn (before Irons). They also had Tre Smith on the team who had at least one good game (against Bama when Brown and Williams were hurt). Basically, Auburn is in the replace one with another mode right now.
 
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