Fulmer note to self.....recruit RB's

#26
#26
SMVTT said:
UT won't win another championship until they either {1} get a new DC or {2} completely overhaul their defensive schemes. The Vols haven't fielded a great defense since 1998 and have fielded a really outstanding defense since 2001. If you force Randy Sanders to pay the price for non productive Offense, then by golly John Chavis should not be given a pass for lousy defensive execution. Chavis can make all the excuses he wants, but, the truth is UT has not played SEC defense against the better SEC teams this season. Against Fla/UGA/So Carolina/LSU the Vols are allowing 26 points per game - that is totally unacceptable. BTW, unless UT improves greatly on defense, Arkansas will run all over the Vols and the game won't be close.
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No offense, but you're crazy. Chavis is an outstanding DC. He's working with the talent dealt to him, with early NFL defections and injuries he's doing a great job. Defense has been our forte every year since 1998 until this year.

You don't think our D last year was great? Towards the end of last year they didn't play up to potential, but you could hardly blame them knowing they would get 0 help from the offense and special teams.
 
#27
#27
Top 3 defenses by points allowed since 1997:

1) 1998 - 189 points
2) 1999 - 194 points
3) 2005 - 205 points
 
#28
#28
Remember the Big Orange Cobb-Webb? Those guys could make yards out of nothing. But they did have a line that could block...
 
#29
#29
tuxman said:
Boy are we low on RB's. What is the deal? I know Coker is hurt...but I'm sorry... Foster isn't hitting the holes like he should. Did you see the way LSU attacked the line of scrimmage? We pitter patter to the line looking for the 80 yard run. They need to ram that darn ball down the linemans back if he isn't blocking. Do something instead of your favorite Michael Jackson dance...for goodness sakes! Our running game is absolutely pathetic! No RB's and no "run"blocking O-line, and injuries caught up to us tonight!
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It doesn't matter if your barry sanders. If there's no blocking, you cant run the football. I agree foster has been hesitant hitting the holes this year. But that could be because there are no holes to run through. At least with Coker though he can get a few yards per carry because he is like a bullet running through the middle. Hopefully he'll be available for Arkansas.
 
#30
#30
OrangeEmpire said:
1.) An offensive line/man with a nasty mean streak.2.) "Gang" Tackling
3.) Space eater at DT.
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We had him, but now Rob Smith is driving an 18 wheeler instead of playing his SR season. Good move coming out early for the draft Rob, that's a big 10-4 good buddy.
 
#33
#33
Anyone that suggests Chavis needs to go is out of his mind. Our D has been the only things holding us together the last few years. Surely SMVTT knows this. Yes, the D let us down last night, but running off Chavis is pure insanity.
 
#36
#36
NorCalHog said:
Watch closely Saturday, and take notes.:rock:
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We will be too busy shredding your secondary and fighting off vagrants asking for change at your stadium to take notes. You take them for us and let us know what you come up with. Thanks.
 
#37
#37
Yes we need a 5 star D tackle. That is killing us also. Gosh, we are getting pushed around by the physical teams!
 
#38
#38
With respect to the running backs, they "tip" through the holes. Everytime Foster runs the ball, he is trying to shake a defender before he even gets to the hole. Granted, our line isn't the greatest, however, there have been some decent holes that the Foster hasn't capitlized on. Hardesty just doesn't have the footwork and speed. With Coker out, I don't understand why Yancey isn't getting any reps. He has excellent footwork and acceleration.

Defensively, I believe Chavis is doing a pretty good job. He puts his guys in position to make plays, and that is all a coach can do. Tackling is up to the players, and that has been a problem this year. Against LSU, the Vols should have made a plethora of stops behind the LOS or allowed only minimal gains. I don't think quality has left UT, but heart and aggressiveness has dissipated.
 
#39
#39
vol75 said:
Granted, our line isn't the greatest, however, there have been some decent holes that the Foster hasn't capitlized on.
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Yeah, our O-line leaves a lot to be desired when it comes to run blocking but like you said, there have been some missed holes. The great running backs make something happen regardless..

At this point, I'm starting to ponder the move of bringing Kentucky's running back coach to Tennessee. When you're team is averaging 56 rusing yards a game, it's time to talk to the coach.

I know that we've been a pass first, run second team this year but at this point, Cut might as well put in 5 receivers in on every play and spread the defense out.
 
#40
#40
And offensive linemen who can run block. The Oline gets no push on running plays.
 
#41
#41
With Foster's arrest - looks like Coker and Hardesty will get their share of chances in the games to come. Foster looks like he's scared to get hit - if there isn't a hole - put your head down and get 1 or 2 yards. Instead, he tries to bounce it outside and ends up losing yards. He's too much of a East-West runner instead of North-South.

How is Coker's injury - I heard he'll be back this week!
 
#42
#42
Voldaddy said:
"....notes - You take them for us and let us know what you come up with. Thanks.
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Note review: Let's see. What can I come up with?

Oh yeah. Number 1 rushing offense in the SEC. Number 5 rushing offense in the country. Mcfadden: Number 1 back in the SEC in total yards (1038), and yards per game (115). Just for fun, McFadden also leads the SEC in touchdowns. Jones: Number 4 back in the SEC in total yards (714), but leads the SEC - and the country - in yards per carry (8.1).

Combined, McFadden in Jones are the best backfield duo in the nation with a total of 1752 yard in just 9 games.

Now, I can tell by your rebuttal that you're probably not a numbers kind of guy, but that all amounts to run blocking.

And to be candid with you, I'm not too concerned about Crompton or Ainge - if he can even go. The Razorbacks are 3rd in the SEC in passing defense efficiency. 4th in the SEC in QB sacks. Antwain Robinson leads the SEC in tackles for loss, and 2nd in the SEC in QB sacks. Now it's true SC made some great passing plays, but as soon as Arkansas went from man to zone: INT. Game over.

As good as Crompton is, it's going to be tough for the young kid to do much with Robinson in his face all night.

To stop the run, I guess Tennessee could stack the box and go for man coverage. But SC tried that and Casey Dick hung 245 passing yards on them.

It's no longer "stop the run, and you stop Arkansas." These ain't your daddy's Razorbacks.

Again, I offer. Take notes. Judging by the paltry 75 rushing yards the Vols had against LSU, they'll need all the help they can get.

McFadden and Jones put over 200 yards rushing on Auburn - A team that beat LSU.

Please drive through, sir.
 
#43
#43
vol75 said:
With respect to the running backs, they "tip" through the holes. Everytime Foster runs the ball, he is trying to shake a defender before he even gets to the hole. Granted, our line isn't the greatest, however, there have been some decent holes that the Foster hasn't capitlized on. Hardesty just doesn't have the footwork and speed. With Coker out, I don't understand why Yancey isn't getting any reps. He has excellent footwork and acceleration.

Defensively, I believe Chavis is doing a pretty good job. He puts his guys in position to make plays, and that is all a coach can do. Tackling is up to the players, and that has been a problem this year. Against LSU, the Vols should have made a plethora of stops behind the LOS or allowed only minimal gains. I don't think quality has left UT, but heart and aggressiveness has dissipated.
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I agree with most of what you said, except for the last sentence. Our guys are playing hard and with heart this year, I think it is the quality that has left. Not to say we don't have quality, but I don't see any Antone Davis, John Hendersons, Jamal Lewis, or Al Wilsons out there.
 
#46
#46
f1ip said:
Check your stats again, he was a LB.

I think stone-handed stoerner knows who he is....
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I meant to say linebacker. Believe me. As a Clint Stoerner and Razorback fan, I am very well aware of who Al Wilson is! :salute:
 
#47
#47
NorCalHog said:
Note review: Let's see. What can I come up with?

Oh yeah. Number 1 rushing offense in the SEC. Number 5 rushing offense in the country. Mcfadden: Number 1 back in the SEC in total yards (1038), and yards per game (115). Just for fun, McFadden also leads the SEC in touchdowns. Jones: Number 4 back in the SEC in total yards (714), but leads the SEC - and the country - in yards per carry (8.1).

Combined, McFadden in Jones are the best backfield duo in the nation with a total of 1752 yard in just 9 games.

Now, I can tell by your rebuttal that you're probably not a numbers kind of guy, but that all amounts to run blocking.

And to be candid with you, I'm not too concerned about Crompton or Ainge - if he can even go. The Razorbacks are 3rd in the SEC in passing defense efficiency. 4th in the SEC in QB sacks. Antwain Robinson leads the SEC in tackles for loss, and 2nd in the SEC in QB sacks. Now it's true SC made some great passing plays, but as soon as Arkansas went from man to zone: INT. Game over.

As good as Crompton is, it's going to be tough for the young kid to do much with Robinson in his face all night.

To stop the run, I guess Tennessee could stack the box and go for man coverage. But SC tried that and Casey Dick hung 245 passing yards on them.

It's no longer "stop the run, and you stop Arkansas." These ain't your daddy's Razorbacks.

Again, I offer. Take notes. Judging by the paltry 75 rushing yards the Vols had against LSU, they'll need all the help they can get.

McFadden and Jones put over 200 yards rushing on Auburn - A team that beat LSU.

Please drive through, sir.
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I'm sure you love stats since you've had the chance to build them up on the likes of Ole Miss, SE Mo State, Lousiana Monroe, Utah State and Vandy. I also see a big one you've left out - 50-14. But since you love stats so much, chew on these:

  • Tennessee averages more points per game
  • Tennessee has the #1 passing offense in the SEC, Ark has the #11 passing offense (still want to brag about that one?)
  • Tennessee is #3 in turnover margin, Ark is #11
  • Tennessee is #3 in first downs, Ark is #9
  • We threw the ball all over LSU (#1), Alabama (#4), Georgia (#5), and South Carolina (#6), ALL of which are ranked higher than Ark (#7) in pass defense.
Finally, we've managed comparable defensive statistics while playing a more difficult schedule.

I'll give you superiority in the running game, sure, but we'll have just as much success shredding your secondary. Go ahead, play a zone, see what happens.
 
#48
#48
I really dont think its our running backs. We just arent opening holes. I think part of it is our play calling...I dont see line up in "running" formations too often. Alot of it is shotgun handoffs and draws. Another thing (I remember this in particular from 04) we used to do is send a wr in motion, then park him behind the tight end to block.

We might just not have confidence in run blocking. Theyve been demoralized all year, and we dont run more then 20-odd times a game, at most. Just like its hard to be a good passing team if you only run 15-20 times a game, I think the same goes for running. Granted, thats because we can pass better then we can run. I only saw one decent hole during the Lsu game, and that was Foster's big run.

Lets not forget we're starting a redshirt freshman at center who Fulmer said is coming around on technique. And thats over a walkon. Obviously we're thin at offensive line, compared to the last couple of years where we had lots of depth to deal with Munoz's weekly injuries.
 
#49
#49
General Jack said:
I'm sure you love stats since you've had the chance to build them up on the likes of Ole Miss, SE Mo State, Lousiana Monroe, Utah State and Vandy. I also see a big one you've left out - 50-14.
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I can see after the Vols having to play national powers like Air Force, 4-4 (which you should have lost), Marshall, 5-4, and Memphis, 1-8, you might be offended by the Razorbacks's non-conference schedule.

Heck, at least Ole Miss and Vandy were conference games. We didn't have a choice there, did we?

Seriously though. I do like stats. They're kind of fun to throw around. But really, Tennessee has had just as much opportunity to pad their stats against lesser opponents as Arkansas has.

Please come with a better aurgument. I never said Tennesee isn't a great team. That would be foolish, wouldn't it? I only gave those stats as a comparison to a common opponent. I certainly meant no disrespect.

Tennesee is a very impressive football team.
 
#50
#50
Seriously though. I do like stats. They're kind of fun to throw around. But really, Tennessee has had just as much opportunity to pad their stats against lesser opponents as Arkansas has
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I think we've played a more difficult schedule so far. But your point is taken...we've both played crap teams, just that Arkansas has played more, up to this point.
 
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