Fulmer on the loss to Florida

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Nothing new really, but at least he sees the problems we have been talking about all day:

"After watching the film, it hurts even more today," Fulmer said Sunday. "A one-point loss to a good team, but we did not play at some positions at all. Offensive line on some plays just got our butts handed to us."

"I think it's more about the people up front," he said. "Hardesty's a good back himself, and there's probably a reason Arian is the starter or was the starter or is the starter. We didn't give the running backs much chance to do anything (Saturday)."

"Give credit to Florida to some degree, but our business wasn't taken care of. We got to get our pads down, get a better push and in pass (protection) we've got to do a much better job."

"When you have a problem rushing the ball, it gets hard calling plays," Fulmer said. "When you can be balanced, doing things that the defense doesn't necessarily expect, it's a lot easier. But we did not get that done, obviously."

"Those areas aren't up to par," he said. "These guys were outstanding players they were going against and some of them didn't answer the bell. They lost their discipline or their fundamentals. They weren't as physical as they needed to be. It wasn't that they didn't take the challenge necessarily, they just didn't from a technical standpoint get it done."
 
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Mmmm.... I note the last paragraph, him saying the players took the challenge but did not execute correctly. And I don't see anywhere in there where he says anything about coaching decisions, game prep being inadequate in some respect, or anything of the like.

This is probably my biggest beef with Fulmer -- his refusal to fault himself. I'm not saying the loss was his fault at all. As I've said I just think Florida was better. But this constant laying of blame at the feet of the UT players is really irritating.

What do you guys think? Anyone else bothered by this?
 
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lawgator1 said:
Mmmm.... I note the last paragraph, him saying the players took the challenge but did not execute correctly. And I don't see anywhere in there where he says anything about coaching decisions, game prep being inadequate in some respect, or anything of the like.

This is probably my biggest beef with Fulmer -- his refusal to fault himself. I'm not saying the loss was his fault at all. As I've said I just think Florida was better. But this constant laying of blame at the feet of the UT players is really irritating.

What do you guys think? Anyone else bothered by this?
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Funny that you picked up on that. That is what all the commenters were saying over at KNS about the article. They were wondering where Fulmer addressed play-calling and strategy during the game.

It bothers me, but I am not surprised. :dunno:
 
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thirdsaturday said:
Funny that you picked up on that. That is what all the commenters were saying over at KNS about the article. They were wondering where Fulmer addressed play-calling and strategy during the game.

It bothers me, but I am not surprised. :dunno:
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What is KNS?

Anyway, its been a pet peeve of mine for awhile and many have mentioned it on this site. Again, I don't necessarily think that Fulmer is at fault. I just think its a bad message to send to the kids, i.e. that the coaches did the best they could with what they have, but the kids just aren't doing it right.
 
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You would think that when we pass like 85% of the time, the occasional run we throw in there would catch the Gators off guard and go for a decent gain. That wasn't the case. The way those defensive ends were shooting into the backfield on passing plays, you'd think it wouldn't be that hard to make them overrun the play, freeing up some running room on the outside. I'm pretty much baffled. If you had told me before the season started that our offensive strength would be the passing game and the weakness would be the running game, I would have laughed. This is just so strange I don't know who to blame.
 
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GAVol said:
Not after this game. It's tough to argue with what he is saying. We got physically beaten on the o-line.
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True, but that isn't my point. If I am in the shoes of a UT player and I'm in a foul mood after the game, the last thing I want to read is the head coach saying we didn't play the way the coaches taught us to. I mean, its not a question of him being right, its a question of sending a bad signal to an already somewhat bruised ego.

Maybe he gets after them at practice, but then he needs to say "this is how we are going to get better" and that is not what these types of comments are going to do.
 
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lawgator1 said:
What is KNS?

Anyway, its been a pet peeve of mine for awhile and many have mentioned it on this site. Again, I don't necessarily think that Fulmer is at fault. I just think its a bad message to send to the kids, i.e. that the coaches did the best they could with what they have, but the kids just aren't doing it right.
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KNS is Knoxville News Sentinel, sorry for the confusion
 
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tidwell said:
In the word of Little John, WHAT?!
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No kidding. I read that and my mouth dropped. Arian hasn't been healthy. I feel like he is at least the starter until he and Hardesty prove otherwise. Way to screw with their heads.

Not to mention the fact that Fulmer is sitting there and doesn't/didn't know who his starters are!?!?!?
 
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thirdsaturday said:
No kidding. I read that and my mouth dropped. Arian hasn't been healthy. I feel like he is at least the starter until he and Hardesty prove otherwise. Way to screw with their heads.

Not to mention the fact that Fulmer is sitting there and doesn't/didn't know who his starters are!?!?!?
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See mine right above. Exactly. Its almost mean spirited.
 
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LG, isn't it enough to beat us without telling us how much you think our coach sucks. :p
 
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thirdsaturday said:
No kidding. I read that and my mouth dropped. Arian hasn't been healthy. I feel like he is at least the starter until he and Hardesty prove otherwise. Way to screw with their heads.

Not to mention the fact that Fulmer is sitting there and doesn't/didn't know who his starters are!?!?!?
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That's what got me too. I was just thinking he put one too many "is the starter"'s in there.
 
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tidwell said:
That's what got me too. I was just thinking he put one too many "is the starter"'s in there.
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I think that either had to be a typo or he just misspoke. I took it to mean that he was acknowledging Hardesty was a good back while also acknowledging Foster as well since he didn't start due to injury.
 
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lawgator1 said:
See mine right above. Exactly. Its almost mean spirited.
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Would you rather Fulmer be like Meyer and call his entire RB fleet "trash"?

GAVol said:
I think that either had to be a typo or he just misspoke. I took it to mean that he was acknowledging Hardesty was a good back while also acknowledging Foster as well since he didn't start due to injury.
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Ditto, that's what befuddled me, the typo/misquote/misspoke. Didn't look like a slam on either of them.
 
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tidwell said:
Would you rather Fulmer be like Meyer and call his entire RB fleet "trash"?
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That's what I don't like about Meyer. He always tries to come off as the smartest guy in the room and throws players under the bus. :p
 
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i think cpf, was saying he dont know if and when foster is gona be healthy enough to get the biggest majority of the carries.

and i think he is right, we didnt exicute, if we had we would have won that game, but thats why they play the game and not just talk about it, florida exicuted better than we did. we are going to be a good team, but we are gona have to get healthy and we have alot to work on.
 
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I'm continually amazed how Fulmer's comments are parsed and dissected. The comments posted in this thread are exerpts from more comments.
 
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lawgator1 said:
What is KNS?

I just think its a bad message to send to the kids, i.e. that the coaches did the best they could with what they have, but the kids just aren't doing it right.
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He never said the coaches did the best they could. In other comments he says things like we just didn't get it done, etc. He also praises the team. An incomplete set of comments was posted.

lawgator1 said:
Again, what a great way to screw with the confidence of your team. Throw out the possibility that he isn't the starter.
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It's clearly just a stream of thought mistake. Foster is the starter - he wasn't the starter in this game due to injury but is still the starter when he's healthy. I seriously doubt anyone on the team thinks the RB starter situation is being reconsidered.

lawgator1 said:
See mine right above. Exactly. Its almost mean spirited.
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Mean spirited? You've got to be kidding me. You are really reaching here.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Mmmm.... I note the last paragraph, him saying the players took the challenge but did not execute correctly. And I don't see anywhere in there where he says anything about coaching decisions, game prep being inadequate in some respect, or anything of the like.

This is probably my biggest beef with Fulmer -- his refusal to fault himself. I'm not saying the loss was his fault at all. As I've said I just think Florida was better. But this constant laying of blame at the feet of the UT players is really irritating.

What do you guys think? Anyone else bothered by this?
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I read that to mean he was addressing some problems with their technique "having their pads to high etc." Its kind of a given by his comments that he thinks they need to do a better job coaching the Oline.
 
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Everything he's saying here in these quotes is what we've all been preaching in these boards. There fact.

These players are big boys. This isn't high school no more. If you don't get your job done expect some critisisim. If you can't take it don't go to a powerhouse school like Tennessee.

About him not saying anything about the X's and O's yeah he could have said something. He's and old O-lineman, them getting thier asses handed to them. I bet he took that personal.

Bottom Line is: If our boys execute, we win. We did not execute on Saturday. We did not.

It is true you can't coach effort but you can rip a players butt out of the game that isn't giving effort.
 
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I really thought this game was lost in the offensive possessions following the 17-7 lead. Unimaginative offensive playcalling, putting ourselves in situations where Erik couldn't hurt the team. Why take your foot off the gas pedal? They were coaching scared in the 2nd half. Bad field position or not, they could have run some playaction against an aggressive UF defense that totally swallowed up the run.

Honestly, that 2nd half reminded me of the 2001 SEC Championship game against LSU. Classic Phil playing not to lose. :ermm:
 
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All of these problems go away when the line starts blocking well.

Ainge and our receivers are as good as any passing combo in the SEC, so we shouldn't have to worry about that. Our running backs can run. Drop the starting RB controversy. It doesn't matter When they get blocking, it will work.
 
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