'22 GA QB Sam Horn (Mizzou commit)

Heupel spent time recruiting Simpson, never heard a word about him recruiting Horn. Doubt he did as the kid wants to play BB in the Spring or will be in the MLB minor leagues.
I heard plenty of words. They talked daily.
 
I don't see the big deal.... We literally have the most talented QB room we've had since Dobbs.

I would be concerned about losing Simpson or Horn had we lost Bailey or Salter decided to sign elsewhere.

Huepel is a QB guru and he is walking into a QB room with better talent than Butch or Pruitt did.

I doubt that CJH has more talent in the room than Butch. Dobbs, Peterman and Ferguson all currently play or played professional football.
 
Heupel needs a high level recruit to commit in order to encourage other top talent to come to UT. Much like Hurd did to spark Butch’s first class, a big time recruit can change the entire dynamic of a recruiting class.

And the converse works as well. Keep striking out and other recruits get cautious.
What you are saying makes sense in that recruiting success can have a snowball effect, but we also have to recognize that Heupel is literally only about 30 days into his tenure.
 
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What you are saying makes sense in that recruiting success can have a snowball effect, but we also have to recognize that Heupel is literally only about 30 days into his tenure.
Heupel needs to have no NCAA stuff over his head. He is wheelchaired in his efforts right now. If he can win like this, then. . .
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He makes a good point. It’s why I asked a few weeks back how big the MLB draft was for him. The op was just saying we would be better off getting another QB than him if he signs out of Hs with the mlb
 
Heupel needs a high level recruit to commit in order to encourage other top talent to come to UT. Much like Hurd did to spark Butch’s first class, a big time recruit can change the entire dynamic of a recruiting class.

And the converse works as well. Keep striking out and other recruits get cautious.

Jones did not get Hurd until his second recruiting class. Heupel has been our coach for all of 10 minutes. I think you're being a tad unreasonable if you thought he was just going to waltz in here and get 1 of the two highest rated QB's in the 2022 class. We were all hoping, of course, but this shouldn't be surprising to anyone. Plus, you cannot ignore the reality that Tennessee is facing NCAA sanctions and our opponents are going to negatively recruit against us on that fact for as long as they can. Some of that frankly is going to be insurmountable. We're going to lose recruits. To be honest, the fact that Kaidon Salter decided to stay with his commitment to us, THAT is the most important recruiting job that Heupel has done since he got here.
 
Drinkwitz is excellent gameplanner and strategist. Mizz will be better going forward. Now you guys have to keep him from being poached, or beware the Dooley syndrome where you recruit decent talent, then the staff comes apart and the team circles the drain.

There will be some concern about him being poached; however, he has a great contract, the South Endzone facility that was completed less than two years ago is first-rate and we are now building a $30M indoor practice facility he wants. His staff coming apart is not even on the radar. He has put together an exceptional staff. He has shown good and experienced coaches want to work with him. As I said before, his recruiting has already surpassed anything we have seen before. Time will tell as it always does.
 
There will be some concern about him being poached; however, he has a great contract, the South Endzone facility that was completed less than two years ago is first-rate and we are now building a $30M indoor practice facility he wants. His staff coming apart is not even on the radar. He has put together an exceptional staff. He has shown good and experienced coaches want to work with him. As I said before, his recruiting has already surpassed anything we have seen before. Time will tell as it always does.
Wait until the downstairs "bar" area, looking onto the field is completed.
 
First, can we fire Pruitt and Fulmer again? Wtf...

This kid will be a serious flip candidate if this staff really wants him. QB isn’t a dire need this class either and if we get hit with scholarship reduction QB could be a spot we pass on.

HB still has 4 years
Maurer still has 3 years
Salter 4 years
We don’t keep all 3 their full eligibility.
 
Is Drink “dynamic or personable”? 😏

He's a dynamic nerd. That's probably the best way to describe him. One secret of his recruiting success is he understands and uses social media like no coach I have seen. He fully understands the importance of it in today's world with these kids. It's night and day from our previous staff. No one can predict the future of course; however, all Mizzou fans will be happy to take our chances with him. Btw, he never played college football and started out coaching in the seventh grade and was still coaching in HS only ten years before Mizzou hired him. He's been doing something right and has impressed quite a few people along the way.
 
There will be some concern about him being poached; however, he has a great contract, the South Endzone facility that was completed less than two years ago is first-rate and we are now building a $30M indoor practice facility he wants. His staff coming apart is not even on the radar. He has put together an exceptional staff. He has shown good and experienced coaches want to work with him. As I said before, his recruiting has already surpassed anything we have seen before. Time will tell as it always does.
And with all these renovations, Un Mz will be have better facilities that Mississippi State. Congratulations!
 
Jones did not get Hurd until his second recruiting class. Heupel has been our coach for all of 10 minutes. I think you're being a tad unreasonable if you thought he was just going to waltz in here and get 1 of the two highest rated QB's in the 2022 class. We were all hoping, of course, but this shouldn't be surprising to anyone. Plus, you cannot ignore the reality that Tennessee is facing NCAA sanctions and our opponents are going to negatively recruit against us on that fact for as long as they can. Some of that frankly is going to be insurmountable. We're going to lose recruits. To be honest, the fact that Kaidon Salter decided to stay with his commitment to us, THAT is the most important recruiting job that Heupel has done since he got here.
Oh, please don’t misunderstand me. I don’t blame Heupel at all. I recognize fully the situation he inherited. I’m merely pointing out how much more difficult the rebuild is if we cannot get some momentum and positivity back on the Hill.
 
What you are saying makes sense in that recruiting success can have a snowball effect, but we also have to recognize that Heupel is literally only about 30 days into his tenure.
Absolutely agree and I’m not blaming Heupel at all. He’s a victim of circumstance. My blame is all on the previous staffs and administrations that have routinely failed this program.
 
Hurd wasn’t in his first class. Flipping Dobbs from Arizona state right before NSD in his first class was his legacy...and it wasn’t really ballyhooed since we already had fan favorite Riley Ferguson. Wearing white doesn’t make you a scientist. 😏
Ferguson. What a wasted talent that guy was. Million dollar arm with a 10 cent brain.
 
Sorry, no way Mizzou was ever going to hire Heupel. We already saw problems with how he manages a game. The hurry up no huddle put a lot of points on the board against non-conference buy a win games, but against real competition it was routinely exposed. A lot of 3 and outs, leaving the defense hung out to dry. Get used to opposing teams having the ball for 35+ minutes and tired defenses in the 4th quarter. QB talent knows he does not develop that position for the NFL. Get ready for plays were there is only a single passing read or only a run with 2-3 other receivers not even bothering to run routes because they stay at the LOS to run block if the single receiver isn't open.

He's also kind of a dick and does not like recruiting.

Well your football analysis has proven to be spot on......

I guess the question to ask.. will Pruitt be fired after Mizzou beats that azz in 2019 or 2020?

I'm just wondering how much longer until Pruitt is the DC at Mizzou beating Tenner azz. .

Although you do get credit calling for Pruitt’s early exit.
 
Absolutely agree and I’m not blaming Heupel at all. He’s a victim of circumstance. My blame is all on the previous staffs and administrations that have routinely failed this program.
Heupel has a hard charge to complete. I think ill be scrapping my pants when he, unexpectedly, starts putting up points and winning games he shouldn't.

Not scrapping. . . I tried to say shutting. . . dang auto-correct
 
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