Game Thread Lady Vols in NCAA Tournament,game 2

#377
#377
If Holly didn’t learn anything about coaching after spending many years with Pat, then why send her to Geno?? She is NOT MATERIAL FOR A HEAD COACH.
 
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#378
#378
I seriously cannot believe we lost today. I hope Holly does the honorable thing and steps down. Sad day for Lady Vols hoops history
 
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#382
#382
Hayes, Westbrook, Davis, Nared. They shoot mainly 15 footers, can't shoot 20 footers.

It was the same story last year with Diamond and what's her name - the transfer.
 
#383
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37620VOL said:
Hayes, Westbrook, Davis, Nared. They shoot mainly 15 footers, can't shoot 20 footers.

It was the same story last year with Diamond and what's her name - the transfer.
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Hayes rarely shoots 15 footers. The only one that makes them at a consistent clip is Davis, other than her, we have a team full of brick layers.
 
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37620VOL said:
Hayes, Westbrook, Davis, Nared. They shoot mainly 15 footers, can't shoot 20 footers.

It was the same story last year with Diamond and what's her name - the transfer.
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Hayes makes her living at the free throw line and driving the lane. Westbrook seems to prefer to drive the lane as well and likes to use the floater. She doesn't seem confident in her midrange but her evaluations say that is part of her game. I could buy Davis as a true mid-range player w/ the way she works the short corner and Nared won't be back so I wouldn't count her. So it's more bad spacing and poor overall shooting percentages than anything I guess. Next year will be different. They will have to adapt w/o Russell.
 
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Nuyoika said:
Hayes makes her living at the free throw line and driving the lane. Westbrook seems to prefer to drive the lane as well and likes to use the floater. She doesn't seem confident in her midrange but her evaluations say that is part of her game. I could buy Davis as a true mid-range player w/ the way she works the short corner and Nared won't be back so I wouldn't count her. So it's more bad spacing and poor overall shooting percentages than anything I guess. Next year will be different. They will have to adapt w/o Russell.
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This is spot-on! And when they do shoot them, they miss!
 
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#391
#391
cutiepie5 said:
This is spot-on! And when thet do shoot them, they miss!
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Yeah. I was thinking that maybe they might have recruited some true mid range players for 2018-2019 to combat the zones they keep seeing since it doesn't look like their philosophy is going to change much. Although, now that they no longer have Russell maybe something does change philosophy wise. Their entire offense was geared for her so it is possible they look completely different next season.
 
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#394
GameTime said:
All things pass....This program has gone the way of the Dodo bird...
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This program can be salvaged only if the Administration bring in a new aggressive coach who knows the game and knows how to motivate players. Holly said after the game that the players do not deserve the crap thrown at them and I agree 100%. In addition the players deserve better leadership and better coaching. When Oregon State went to the zone we were screwed and tattooed. Holly, as usual did not have an answer. She is constantly being out coached. Holly you are right the players and the Lady Vols deserves better, do the right thing and resign.
 
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#395
#395
teacherdean said:
This program can be salvaged only if the Administration bring in a new aggressive coach who knows the game and knows how to motivate players. Holly said after the game that the players do not deserve the crap thrown at them and I agree 100%. In addition the players deserve better leadership and better coaching. When Oregon State went to the zone we were screwed and tattooed. Holly, as usual did not have an answer. She is constantly being out coached. Holly you are right the players and the Lady Vols deserves better, do the right thing and resign.
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Hire the Oregon State coach. If he can teach the zone then he can teach how to beat the zone. I feel so sorry for Holly. Her mentor CPS was not a great X's and O's coach like Geno. She was a great motivator. The LV need a coach who is a motivator and knows how to teach X's and O's.
 
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#397
#397
Coach Jumper said:
"Perfect Storm"

Round II

We'll beat the crap out of anyone as long as we keep remembering how fun it is.

It is win-or-go home basketball.
Win, you don't go home.



Listening?

Of note, today Rick Barnes didn't call a timeout until Q3. He was lulled into waiting for the TV timeout twice. I believe it affected us. The opposing coach burned two TO's to stop our runs. And both worked.

Timeouts are weapons...Not just defense mechanisms.
The first two are for tactic, the second two are for finishes.
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We start the game out using a timeout to stop a run (yay)....We are up 35-38...8m50 sec...a 14-0 start for Oregon St turns into a 19-3 run. The opposing coach burns two TO's during their run...Sigh

timeout?
 
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#398
#398
cutiepie5 said:
This is spot-on! And when thet do shoot them, they miss!
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I think that the Lady Vols need to rethink a recruiting strategy that seems to value athleticism above all else and, as far as I can tell, doesn't really pay as much attention as it should to basketball skills, basketball IQ, and meddlesome parents. That would be mostly ok (except for the parents part), if the coaching staff seemed capable of developing the skills and smarts, but they don't, with the result that, in games that the Lady Vols have difficulty overwhelming their opponent athletically, they have difficulty finding a way to win, and even over teams that are far less talented/gifted, Oregon State being a case in point.

I think this may be an inheritance from the past, but what worked, say, 15 years ago, doesn't really work today, and it doesn't seem as if anyone on the staff here realizes that. The teams that are very good year-in and year-out (Notre Dame and UConn being the prime examples) have good shooters all over the court and average lots of assists/game. That's not what one sees here, but imo it's what's needed if the Lady Vols are to approach what they were in the (ever more distant) past.
 
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#400
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jonson said:
I think that the Lady Vols need to rethink a recruiting strategy that seems to value athleticism above all else and, as far as I can tell, doesn't really pay as much attention as it should to basketball skills, basketball IQ, and meddlesome parents. That would be mostly ok (except for the parents part), if the coaching staff seemed capable of developing the skills and smarts, but they don't, with the result that, in games that the Lady Vols have difficulty overwhelming their opponent athletically, they have difficulty finding a way to win, and even over teams that are far less talented/gifted, Oregon State being a case in point.

I think this may be an inheritance from the past, but what worked, say, 15 years ago, doesn't really work today, and it doesn't seem as if anyone on the staff here realizes that. The teams that are very good year-in and year-out (Notre Dame and UConn being the prime examples) have good shooters all over the court and average lots of assists/game. That's not what one sees here, but imo it's what's needed if the Lady Vols are to approach what they were in the (ever more distant) past.
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SO TRUE! And we haven’t had a good shooter in YEARS! Holly seems to recruit girls that can drive and get to the hole and can OCCASIONALLY hit a 3. Problem is, against most high school talent, ANYONE can get to the hole as the competition and defense is not that great. When they get to college and play against players who are as athletic as they are or even more athletic, they cant create their own shots or sling the ball off the backboard for fear of contact when they do. Smh.
 
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