With the exception of McKeown, I do not believe that the MS "players" are better athletes than the LV's. The difference is that the MS players know where to be, work together, and have passion for defense. The reason there is a difference is because Shaffer coaches MS and Holly coaches the LV's. Both coaches took over their programs 7 years ago. Shaffer took over a .500 program and Holly took over one the the premier programs the NCAA. Hmmmmm......