Game Thread: SEC Tournament Second Round. #18/14 Lady Vols (9 seed) vs. Vandy (8 seed). Thurs., March 6, 11 am ET, SECN

Damn, I missed this post game interview. Ralph says they didn’t need to prep much for this second game with UT, they felt they knew exactly what they would do. Pretty bold statement from an opposing coach on National TV.

Interview found here….

It appears she was correct.
 
I’ll take your word for it, hopefully she can get those skills back. But why haven’t we seen them, it’s not like she changed positions?
I agree what we are seeing now is a disaster and is a major reason we have been losing. Kim may have worked the legs right off of them. Practice may be taking to much out of them to play don't know. None look to be where they were other than maybe Spearman who seems to be about the only one playing the same.
 
I'd like to know why Whitehorn went from being a very good guard in the early season to being terrible lately. :( ditto for spear, spencer, etc.

I thought Ruby played a lot better in the 2nd half today but still felt like she was overthinking it once she got good looks and kept over/under-shooting it.
Ruby and Cooper are the reincarnations of Rae and Jordan...
-Ruby(Rae) bull in a china shop early on,,,dribbled into trouble consistently
-Cooper (Jordan H) above average skills,,,can disappear,,,you take the good with the bad

How did Rae/JH turn their game's around and how did their "switch" get flipped,,,and by whom?

certanily not Holly or Kellie,,otherwise they'd still be here
 
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It’s pretty plain to see where the improvement needs to come from next year for UT to climb up the SEC rankings. Offensively UT ranks among the best in the conference. Defensely they ranked near the bottom. That is where the adjustments should be made imo. I get that this system traditionally is willing to sacrifice defense in favor of offense, but the SEC is a defense first league, always has been.

I guess most have given up on this season, and I can see why with the recent performances. Looks doubtful we go far in ncaa. Excitement was great while it lasted.
 
Damn, I missed this post game interview. Ralph says they didn’t need to prep much for this second game with UT, they felt they knew exactly what they would do. Pretty bold statement from an opposing coach on National TV.

Interview found here….

Yes and Kim doesn’t change anything within her broke ass Press, she gives away 10 + points a game with that press.

Vandy will get beat bad tomorrow by SC bc Dawn will play zone and stop them from all the dribble drives that they like to do.

Playing uptempo is where they succeed, the fact Kim doesn’t make any changes to her game plan is the reason why this team will prolly be put out the tourney in the first weekend.
 
Love to see another Candice Parker walk through the door. You only see one of those every decade or so.
CHoldchaw was the one who help Tennessee win one her freshman .
Both CH and CP were difference makers.
Not sure on spelling on CH 96 97 98 NCAA tournament championship teams
Parker got Tennessee last two
 
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Yes and Kim doesn’t change anything within her broke ass Press, she gives away 10 + points a game with that press.

Vandy will get beat bad tomorrow by SC bc Dawn will play zone and stop them from all the dribble drives that they like to do.

Playing uptempo is where they succeed, the fact Kim doesn’t make any changes to her game plan is the reason why this team will prolly be put out the tourney in the first weekend.
I'm expecting them to go out in game two. I think we might win game one don't see us making the sweet sixteen. We do need a zone.
 
Yes and Kim doesn’t change anything within her broke ass Press, she gives away 10 + points a game with that press.

Vandy will get beat bad tomorrow by SC bc Dawn will play zone and stop them from all the dribble drives that they like to do.

Playing uptempo is where they succeed, the fact Kim doesn’t make any changes to her game plan is the reason why this team will prolly be put out the tourney in the first weekend.
SC never plays zone. I wish they would at times. Staley always plays man on man defense and never doubles any player. She should have adjusted vs Clark the first time, cost her an undefeated season and another NC. She did get her the second go around however.

You are right about the press however, it should be used as a strategic weapon at various times in a game, but if it is used for the entirety of a game it will lead to many easy buckets for the opponents.
 
SC never plays zone. I wish they would at times. Staley always plays man on man defense and never doubles any player. You are right about the press however, it should be used as a strategic weapon at various times in a game, but if it is used for the entirety of a game it will lead to many easy buckets for the opponents.
I think it’s a matchup zone where it looks like man. I’ll be watching tomorrow
 
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I'm expecting them to go out in game two. I think we might win game one don't see us making the sweet sixteen. We do need a zone.
Really a match up zone so that players don't have to follow their player all over the court conserves energy. You play the ball man to man in your area and as the ball moves the player in that area man to mans the ball. Called a match up zone Bruce Pearl teams used to play it a lot at Tennessee.
 
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I think it’s a matchup zone where it looks like man. I’ll be watching tomorrow
Not a zone, but the man to man defense is trained to switch defenders quickly. Staley refuses to play zone. It works as long as you have elite defenders.
 
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I think it’s a matchup zone where it looks like man. I’ll be watching tomorrow
Just posted on that as the matchup looks like a man to man except you don't leave an area of the court. I like it better than any other defense that a team can play.
 
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Just posted on that as the matchup looks like a man to man except you don't leave an area of the court. I like it better than any other defense that a team can play.
Watch their games, the players never stay in an area, they follow their assigned player all over the court until they are forced to switch with a teammate on picks, screens etc.. They have played man to man for Staley’s tenure. Yes the defenders switch often, but that is how elite man to man works, defenders know when to make the switch.
 
I don’t think it matters. I think the one area Coach Caldwell can grow is how she defends ALL of her players not just some in front of the media. Don’t be quick to throw them under the bus. And to avoid giving so much credit to the SEC and other coaches who are obviously going public to shiii on her coaching style and system. Give that energy back to coaches because if they say this publicly on tv, you can bet it’s 100x worse behind close doors and in recruiting.
Basketball coaches and schools like Vanderbilt have to relish in any win they can get and live in the moment. Everyone a year ago outside of the Tennessee fanbase including the Tennessee fans that left the bandwagon were counting this season as a major failure before the first game. To relish in 1 point, 7 point, 8 point, 2 point etc wins over Tennessee in year 1 under Coach Caldwell is not a good sign for SEC foes now or next season. When she gets her 1st #1/#2 HS recruiting class and a full offseason with the returnees tell the Coach there to keep that same energy when they get beat again and again as usual by Tennessee.


Damn, I missed this post game interview. Ralph says they didn’t need to prep much for this second game with UT, they felt they knew exactly what they would do. Pretty bold statement from an opposing coach on National TV.

Interview found here….

 
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Not just the number of mns but how they're distributed in games. Some players will want flow. You have to wonder how much lack of flow due to frequent subbing has affected our shooting.
In the discussion of flow and substitutions, we tend to forget that when the players come off the court after such short intervals, they're supposed to be badly in need of a blow, anyway. So until players can stay on the court longer without resting, "flow" would come at a cost to every other advantage the system is designed to achieve.

With all their hours of running in practice, everyone should be in their best shape ever. So I suspect that the reason we haven't seen longer intervals evolve over the season is the physical makeup of our roster.

When I see boys from the nearby high school running around town after classes, it's pretty easy at a glance to know who's on the track or cross country team, and which ones are football players getting into shape for spring practice. They're all athletes, but some are obviously built for endurance while others are built for short, powerful bursts.

Our current LV roster has probably 5 or 6 players who could maintain attack-mode at full speed and effort for twice as long as our substitution intervals have been. I don't doubt our players' commitment. But in terms of body types and metabolisms, we're the full spectrum of athletes. Given the need to keep 5 players on the court going all out, we've been necessarily compromised in what we can do on court, and for how long without a breather.

I think the biggest difference we'll see next season will come from having at least 10 players whose bodies and metabolism are built for speed and endurance. And with resulting longer substitution intervals, added benefits from "flow" should also become more apparent.
IMHO
 
Watch their games, the players never stay in an area, they follow their assigned player all over the court until they are forced to switch with a teammate on picks, screens etc..
That would be a straight man to man. A lot of coaches like to play it if they have the speed at every position to make it tough. The matchup is better for teams with a weak defender or two which SC does not have.
 
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Damn, I missed this post game interview. Ralph says they didn’t need to prep much for this second game with UT, they felt they knew exactly what they would do. Pretty bold statement from an opposing coach on National TV.

Interview found here….

Ouch, that’s an awful look.
 
Fairly simple post players maybe a three point specialst addition.
Perhaps more offense will work. From this perch I’d focus on a legit defensive strategy, but I’m not a D1 coach, just a simple fan. I do understand the philosophy of CKC and realize the constant press and quick rotations are integral to her game plan, so I suppose to go all in she will look for more offense and also more athletic players to employ her press.
 
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I don’t think it matters. I think the one area Coach Caldwell can grow is how she defends ALL of her players not just some in front of the media. Don’t be quick to throw them under the bus. And to avoid giving so much credit to the SEC and other coaches who are obviously going public to shiii on her coaching style and system. Give that energy back to coaches because if they say this publicly on tv, you can bet it’s 100x worse behind close doors and in recruiting.
Basketball coaches and schools like Vanderbilt have to relish in any win they can get and live in the moment. Everyone a year ago outside of the Tennessee fanbase including the Tennessee fans that left the bandwagon were counting this season as a major failure before the first game. To relish in 1 point, 7 point, 8 point, 2 point etc wins over Tennessee in year 1 under Coach Caldwell is not a good sign for SEC foes now or next season. When she gets her 1st #1/#2 HS recruiting class and a full offseason with the returnees tell the Coach there to keep that same energy when they get beat again and again as usual by Tennessee.
It doesn’t matter if she has all that and is not willing to adjust her system at all. There are going to be times she needs to adjust even if it means pulling the press from full court to half court.

Sometimes you might need to ride with a lineup longer than 40 seconds.
 
Your points are valid. I believe her philosophy is to perfect a system and her players/team will win.
It’s a 50/50 game with this system on the D1 level. They’ve won 22 games and beating Florida State and Iowa is as good as beating any team in the SEC no matter what posters say but its dangerous to play every game 50/50 with the same strategy.
I know she’s stated how a former coach introduces it to her in college as a player and how they loved the system, but just as many other coaches have seen before and currently what worked during their time as players or at other division levels is not guaranteed on the highest level.
Her system can work but it can’t survive without enhancing principles and expanding the playbook as a coach.
Can’t be a one trick pony.
Yes and Kim doesn’t change anything within her broke ass Press, she gives away 10 + points a game with that press.

Vandy will get beat bad tomorrow by SC bc Dawn will play zone and stop them from all the dribble drives that they like to do.

Playing uptempo is where they succeed, the fact Kim doesn’t make any changes to her game plan is the reason why this team will prolly be put out the tourney in the first weekend.
 
I agree, the young kids still know and look up to her.
Great let down in life was my daughter playing with her team in CA back in 2019 and we saw Candace having lunch outside close to Beverly Hills. Simple Go Vols turned into a few min. conversation on Tennessee, recruiting, life back in 2019. We walked away and I looked at my daughter and said “you have no idea, who that is do you?” Nope, but she was nice. Running joke when she sees her on TV now.
 
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Damn, I missed this post game interview. Ralph says they didn’t need to prep much for this second game with UT, they felt they knew exactly what they would do. Pretty bold statement from an opposing coach on National TV.

Interview found here….

Not really, we go fast, make shots or miss shots dictates how the other team plays. It’s not splitting the atom coaching.
 
Coach Kim made the remark in press this past week she had failed to realize how physical the SEC was and that it had take a bigger toll on players that she expected. I can look for her making a lot of adjustment in year two. I just hope most of the fans will not be to down on her and the team were making the NCAA that hasn't been in doubt in weeks. This team came close to be really awesome end of the season they are physically beaten down. Coach may have to let up on those practices and running a little more next season.

She acknowledged the team’s fatigue again today, more in depth I’d say, and seems to think that has contributed to the disappointment of the last 2-3 weeks.
Just a note on physical play vs fatigue. Recovery from fatigue means getting the right nutrients into the individual cell mitochondria so that the depleted energy system is regenerated.

But recovery from physical play, from bumps, bruises, microtears and contusions, requires more time, more proteins and ketones, and time spent in sequential physical therapy environments.

So I'm wondering if CKC's adjustments will be time/practice related, arranging the practice schedule to give players more recovery time before running them in practice, and front-loading more of the film and instruction time.

I'm no trainer, but I'd bet that today's recovery procedures for slow-twitch and fast-twitch muscles are different. If so, that's another aspect which will benefit from having a more physically homogenous roster.

The future is hopeful. Let's just make positive use of our remaining time to support these seniors, who have given their all regardless of how well or not they fit the incoming system. We will be building on their shoulders, and they have every reason to take great pride in what the Lady Vols achieve in future years under CKC.
 
C. Parker help lead veteran team to national championship
As a freshman

My memory is fuzzy, but I believe Candace had a medical redshift as a freshman. Had she been healthy, probably would have been nat. champs that year.

The next year, Lady Vols were undefeated and No. 1 when our starting PG unexpectedly defected to Maryland in January. PG depth from that point on probably cost us another championship.

Parker's teams won two in a row during her soph. and junior seasons. She left Tennessee for the pros with one year of eligibility remaining, having already spent four years at UT.

LV Historians, please correct any inaccuracies above.
 

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