Gary Johnson to Offer Online Commentary

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utvolpj said:
the CPD is a scam. It was put together by the 2 parties and is completely controlled by them. GJ didn't have a shot to reach the 15% number anyways since the polls the CPD chooses don't even include him as an option.

this isn't necessarily about GJ but about the stranglehold the 2 parties have on our entire govt
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so you're advocating different rules for selecting participants? Maybe we just do away with them and let anyone participate? We should let any party have a podium? Hell, we should just make elections 100% write in.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
there is the disconnect. The guy trying to truly change the system can't win due to inertia. Moreover, once elected, he has to live with the idiots in congress.

Until we find a way to let public sentiment transition toward vilifying the free lunch crowd (on both sides), there is no fix. We're choosing the lesser of evils until entitlements break the system. Until them, politicians will find new ways to entitle more and people will continue electing them.

Forcing any candidate into the mix isn't going to change that. Popular opinion has to move toward entitlements loathing.
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You have the wrong attitude my friend. I know GJ won't win the election. Even if he did, he would be in a standoff with Congress for 4 years. But IF HE DID win, and could use the inevitable standoff to show the American public that nothing will improve as long as the idiots remain in Congress, something could then be done about putting better people in Congress.

It's a crappy system, run by the greedy and selfish. Until the face and mouthpiece of the system (POTUS) is taken over by someone who truly wants to fix it, nothing will change until after it's too late.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
so you're advocating different rules for selecting participants? Maybe we just do away with them and let anyone participate? We should let any party have a podium? Hell, we should just make elections 100% write in.
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That would be a lot better than what we have now. Until you get money out of politics we will never see real and meaningful change.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
what's the process for deciding the best policies? Is this not it?
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The best policies are how one intends to govern once elected. The policies of the idiots being force fed to the public are more about how to get elected (and re-elected) rather than about governing in such a way to improve the country.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
so you're advocating different rules for selecting participants? Maybe we just do away with them and let anyone participate? We should let any party have a podium? Hell, we should just make elections 100% write in.
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Dude, enough with the straw man today. That's twice.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
so you're advocating different rules for selecting participants? Maybe we just do away with them and let anyone participate? We should let any party have a podium? Hell, we should just make elections 100% write in.
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no I'm advocating taking away control of the decisions from the people that have the most to gain from them. By letting only the R and D control who is included in the process it is guaranteed one will come out a winner, power will be maintained and the American people think they really had a choice

a better selector would be when someone's name is on every ballot they get a place in the debate. The American people at least deserve to put a face with a name they will see on their ballot.
 
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n_huffhines said:
Is this for real? GOP is suing to get him off ballots. He is excluded from Republican debates even though he is incredibly popular among those who know him (New Mexico, which is 2:1 democratic). He is excluded from national debates. It may not be a back room conspiracy that was planned out, but opponents of his are trying their damndest to prevent any real choice in this election.

Maybe if all candidates were treated equally from the get-go, Gary Johnson would be the front-runner today.
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Gary Johnson very well knows the process for electing presidents. It wasn't hidden from view or some secret. His message doesn't yet resonate with enough voters for him to get 15% backing. Until it does, he might has well be posting on message boards.
 
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One thing I think we would be good for change....take party affiliation off the ballot, and do not allow for a straight party punch. If you don't know who is a Republican, and who is a Democrat, please stay your ass home.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
Gary Johnson very well knows the process for electing presidents. It wasn't hidden from view or some secret. His message doesn't yet resonate with enough voters for him to get 15% backing. Until it does, he might has well be posting on message boards.
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Crap! How did you know my secret identity? lol
 
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utvolpj said:
no I'm advocating taking away control of the decisions from the people that have the most to gain from them. By letting only the R and D control who is included in the process it is guaranteed one will come out a winner, power will be maintained and the American people think they really had a choice

a better selector would be when someone's name is on every ballot they get a place in the debate. The American people at least deserve to put a face with a name they will see on their ballot.
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so decentralizing it will change the results? how?

Until Americans hate the outcomes and recognize that the choices are all bad, there isn't any way to uproot what's there. Unfortunately, what's there is in place by democratic means and uprooting will have to happen via the same process. There is nothing precluding any one or any idea from walking onto the public stage.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
so decentralizing it will change the results? how?

Until Americans hate the outcomes and recognize that the choices are all bad, there isn't any way to uproot what's there. Unfortunately, what's there is in place by democratic means and uprooting will have to happen via the same process. There is nothing precluding any one or any idea from walking onto the public stage.
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They already do!!! How many times have you heard the phrase "the lesser of two evils"? A decent size chunk of Romney voters are only voting for him because they don't want another 4 years of President Obama.
 
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etmccreary said:
They already do!!! How many times have you heard the phrase "the lesser of two evils"? A decent size chunk of Romney voters are only voting for him because they don't want another 4 years of President Obama.
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who does? A plurality will vote and a sizable percentage of that plurality will be thrilled with the outcome.

Where is your outrage with the media for being the machine that perpetuates the problem? The dem party would no longer exist without media help.
 
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etmccreary said:
They already do!!! How many times have you heard the phrase "the lesser of two evils"? A decent size chunk of Romney voters are only voting for him because they don't want another 4 years of President Obama.
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This is true. I'm voting GJ but if I thought Obama had any chance in taking Tennessee I'd vote Romney.
 
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I don't think anything should be done legal-wise. However, the public should realize that both parties have built the system to maintain a two-party system. You want change, vote for a different party.

edit: And debates/CPD are a big part of the sham. It's controlled by both parties, and the rules/application of the rules are completely controlled by them.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
who does? A plurality will vote and a sizable percentage of that plurality will be thrilled with the outcome.

Where is your outrage with the media for being the machine that perpetuates the problem? The dem party would no longer exist without media help.
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I hate the mainstream media as well. I guess I do not voice that disdain simply because I do not get my news from the TV.
 
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Weezy said:
I don't think anything should be done legal-wise. However, the public should realize that both parties have built the system to maintain a two-party system. You want change, vote for a different party.

edit: And debates/CPD are a big part of the sham. It's controlled by both parties, and the rules/application of the rules are completely controlled by them.
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I believe that is happening, slowly, but surely.
 
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