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[gunner]

Originally posted by oklavol@Aug 28, 2005 6:31 PM


Second,  how do you play a zone against 5 wide outs?? All Meyer has to do is flood the zone with 4 or 5 wr's and he will score 50 against us.  I really hope we dont try to play zone. 

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I guess it is time to break this down without being too technical. Zone coverage isn't always bad in fact it can really frustrate some QB's. There are ways to exploit zone coverage, but usually if the DB's are in the right place it keeps an offense form hitting big plays.

Well, if you watch Tennessee Football on a regular basis you would know that they play a lot of zone coverage every week, like Cover 1, and Cover 2 more zone coverage than man. If flooding the zone worked every play then nobody would ever play zone coverage in the secondary.

Against Georgia last season they played about 90% zone. UT only gave up one touchdown. The reason they played so much was UGA had the best receivers we faced all of last season. UGA ran 4 and 5 wide sets we still played zone, and held them to one touchdown, they moved the ball, but they failed to put it in the end zone more than once. Conversely, the week before they killed LSU with big pass play after big pass play as LSU was supposed to have two of the best corners in the nation last year, but LSU's db's couldn't cover UGA's receiver’s one on one. Hence, UT coaches decided to play mostly zone on UGA, not man coverage.

The key to playing zone in the secondary is the DL must get good pressure on the QB.

Just my :twocents:

Gunner :machinegun:

 

[bigzurc420]

it matters if it was a year or 2 ago becuz someone can improve over 2 years....improvements usually do happen.....and if he floods one side with 4 or 5 receivers that would be easier to cover than him spreadin them out in the zone....but like i said pressure Leak and it wont matter how many receivers they have

 

[TBALLVOL]

If the intitials for Urban Meyer (UM) confuse you, then you just have to think like a gator and think of the slimy green SCUM on the swamp, Super Coach Urban Meyer- SCUM.

 

[KYVolFan]

Originally posted by oklavol@Aug 28, 2005 6:23 PM
Here are my concerns vs Florida:

1. Meyer sends in 5 WR finds a LB matched up against a WR and exploits it repeatedly.  I would really like to see Fulmer and Co. use 5 DB and  2 LB (Take Mitchell out and bring in maybe Morley or Jonathon Wade).

2.  Meyer is gonna have 4 or 5 wide receivers and is gonna exploit whoever is weakest in man to man coverage in UT secondary. I imagine that will be Stewart, he got burned a lot last year against Auburn.  If we have one weak link in coverage, one guy who cant cover well man to man Meyer is gonna exploit it.

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:angel: Interesting concerns. However, this coaching approach is no different than any other offensive scheme. Modern football is based on "exploit weaknesses in the defense". It may shock some, especially Florida Fans, but Yourbane did not invent, discover or create that scheme. It has been around for years and years.

Also, I doubt that we will have the Defensive Backfield problems we had last year. However, Yourbane's boys may not be ready to run the "Yourbane Myth". They don't have the mobility at quaterback for one problem.

 

[kiddiedoc]

Wow. I'm shocked. I figured they would have picked the Gators for another 5 loss season and an upset at the hands of Vanderbilt. Weird to hear a UF fan or writer sing the praises of the new, unproven coach.

To me, any credibility flies out the window with the "South Carolina" comment. An article that talks about National Championship expectations in one sentence and calls SC your "biggest game" is absurd. Try playing in Baton Rouge. Try Tennessee at home, after dropping the past two to them in the Swamp. Try the Cocktail Party. One coach cannot a team make, and SC doesn't have the firepower to compete with the big boys yet.

 

[SoCalVol]

Originally posted by oklavol@Aug 28, 2005 5:23 PM
Here are my concerns vs Florida:

1. Meyer sends in 5 WR finds a LB matched up against a WR and exploits it repeatedly.  I would really like to see Fulmer and Co. use 5 DB and  2 LB (Take Mitchell out and bring in maybe Morley or Jonathon Wade).

2.  Meyer is gonna have 4 or 5 wide receivers and is gonna exploit whoever is weakest in man to man coverage in UT secondary. I imagine that will be Stewart, he got burned a lot last year against Auburn.  If we have one weak link in coverage, one guy who cant cover well man to man Meyer is gonna exploit it.

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First of all, Fulmer and Chavis have never been hesitant to put in the ol' Mustang package and flood the secondary with defesive backs. I seriously doubt Tennessee will allow Florida to go to 4 and 5 wide receiver sets with out responding accordingly.

Second, If Florida goes to a 4 or 5 wideout set, chances are that Leak will have roughly .02 seconds to get rid of the ball before he gets hit. I don't think there's any OL in the country that could stop our front four and a blitzing linebacker straight up.

 

[GenNeyland9]

What a lot of people don't realize is that Meyer's offense is just as much run focused as it is pass-oriented. If you watched Utah last season, they'd run for a ton of yards every game using that misdirection type option out of the shotgun.

We have to stop DeShawn Wynn, Markus Manson and Skyler Thornton from running all over us. UT's defense is fast, but sometimes it has had a tendency in the past to overplay and be out of position against teams that run unconventionally via misdirections plays, etc.

Florida won't be pass, pass, pass this year.

 

[gunner]

Originally posted by GenNeyland9@Aug 29, 2005 4:38 PM
What a lot of people don't realize is that Meyer's offense is just as much run focused as it is pass-oriented.  If you watched Utah last season, they'd run for a ton of yards every game using that misdirection type option out of the shotgun.

We have to stop DeShawn Wynn, Markus Manson and Skyler Thornton from running all over us.  UT's defense is fast, but sometimes it has had a tendency in the past to overplay and be out of position against teams that run unconventionally via misdirections plays, etc.

Florida won't be pass, pass, pass this year.

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It is a gimmick offense, but if they try to run their way to victory against Tennessee, they will be in for a long night. Their best chance at victory against UT is to pass and mix in some run, UT's front seven is too strong, too fast, and too well coached to be beat by the misdirection option running game from the shotgun. What worked against MAC or WAC teams won't be the same against a well coached defense that stays in position.

The most talent and depth on UF's team is at WR, and Leak's strength is passing not running the option. The tailbacks they have are either inexperienced or inconsistent.

So, against UT, I look for them to pass more than they run.


gunner

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[IBleedOrange24/7]

If UF shows anything on film, Chief and the Orange lenchmob should be able to pick it up and adjust. The only if any concern for the mis-direction plays, is maybe slowing Parys and Simon down so they dont over speed the play. :dunno: