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Fine Vol

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If Leak was playing as well as Ainge, would Fla. be putting in Tebow at all?
If yes, should we do it with Crompton.I dont think we should. So why is Fla doing it with a heisman candidate.
 
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finevol said:
If Leak was playing as well as Ainge, would Fla. be putting in Tebow at all?
If yes, should we do it with Crompton.I dont think we should. So why is Fla doing it with a heisman candidate.
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A) Leak is playing almost as well as Ainge, but not quite there.

B) Ainge is more of a Heisman candidate than Leak

C) Tebow adds another dimension to their offense, much like Schaeffer did for us in 2004.
 
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That's a question to ask Urban.

Despite Ainge being better, Chris Leak is still having a pretty good year. Tim Tebow, however, has skills that Chris Leak does not- and vise versa. It offers the Gators great versatility b/c each play they run is specifically designed for either Leak or Tebow. The opposing defense will know this- allowing the Gators to get incredible "sneaky" with play calls, catching unprepared defenses with their pants down.
(example) Tebow's fake run up the middle, brings safeties up, and he tosses one over their head for a touchdown *LSU game*
 
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finevol said:
If Leak was playing as well as Ainge, would Fla. be putting in Tebow at all?
If yes, should we do it with Crompton.I dont think we should. So why is Fla doing it with a heisman candidate.
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Yes, they'd put him in anyway..he's their biggest running threat right now, and i truly think UM wants this kid to get as much PT as possible so he doesn't go in next year cold.
No. we shouldn't be doing anything based on what another team is doing. Crompton is getting pt now anyway in some mop up duty. Also, i'm a big fan of if it ain't broke, don't fix it. Ainge has been playing extremely well, and has proved to be our best chance to win football games. There is no gimmick that Crompton can run that EA can't right now. that's the biggest difference in out two situations. UM would rather play Tebow anyway...this way he's just giving him a leg up for next year.

Leak is no longer a heisman candidate. Ainge is...sort of.
 
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I thought Leak didn't like running the ball in the spread option?The spread option with Leak as QB will be a lot different then with Tebow.
 
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We have attempted to use Crompton a few times like UM uses Tebow but We have RB's that can do the job so why use Crompton.
 
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finevol said:
If Leak was playing as well as Ainge, would Fla. be putting in Tebow at all?
If yes, should we do it with Crompton.I dont think we should. So why is Fla doing it with a heisman candidate.
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It's almost like what UGA did with Greene and Shockley.
 
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Is the argument just about the UT/UF game? I should read more carefully.

It is obvious that Wynn is a better runner than Tebow.

In Meyer's offense I think it is more important to have a running quarterback than running back.

In Meyer's offense, Tebow is more of threat than Wynn. But I am crazy, because Wynn could be more of threat with a running Tebow.

Man, my eyes are watering......
 
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Wynn may be back this weekend, but I am assuming that the UGA game is more likely.

I think you guys have hit the nail on the head, though. Tebow adds a dimension to our offense and he has been so explosive that I genuinely think teams are a little bit afraid of him (no, not in the sense of worried they cannot tackle him -- more that he opens up a bunch more plays and they need to be thinking about their assignments.).

During the LSU game, when Tebow ran onto the field and Leak off, you could see the LSU guys frantically looking to the sidelines and then talking to each other, trying to be sure what each was supposed to do. It definitely had an effect on them.

Also, while Leak has solidly been moving the team between the 30's, Tebow seems more driven to score, whatever it takes. Obviously, Leak is a much more experienced and accomplished passing QB. But he seems to me sometimes to be too technical and not playing with enough instinct when plays break down, as they inevitably do.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Wynn may be back this weekend, but I am assuming that the UGA game is more likely.

I think you guys have hit the nail on the head, though. Tebow adds a dimension to our offense and he has been so explosive that I genuinely think teams are a little bit afraid of him (no, not in the sense of worried they cannot tackle him -- more that he opens up a bunch more plays and they need to be thinking about their assignments.).

During the LSU game, when Tebow ran onto the field and Leak off, you could see the LSU guys frantically looking to the sidelines and then talking to each other, trying to be sure what each was supposed to do. It definitely had an effect on them.

Also, while Leak has solidly been moving the team between the 30's, Tebow seems more driven to score, whatever it takes. Obviously, Leak is a much more experienced and accomplished passing QB. But he seems to me sometimes to be too technical and not playing with enough instinct when plays break down, as they inevitably do.
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completely agree.
 
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therealUT said:
When?
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I remember him slipping in during the Memphis game. He came in on a 3rd and short (3?) I believe, Tebowed straight ahead for the first down, but there was a proceedure penalty on the play, so it is probably not in the stats.
 
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Tebow brings something extra to the table whenever he's in the game... something like not being afraid to get hit on the run.
 
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OrangeEmpire said:
Is the argument just about the UT/UF game? I should read more carefully.

It is obvious that Wynn is a better runner than Tebow.

In Meyer's offense I think it is more important to have a running quarterback than running back.

In Meyer's offense, Tebow is more of threat than Wynn. But I am crazy, because Wynn could be more of threat with a running Tebow.

Man, my eyes are watering......
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Well, I was speaking of Wynn being more consistent this season. :)

But yes, for Meyer's system, Tebow's ability to run is far more important to success than Wynn's. However, with a consistent Wynn playing behind a big play Tebow, things will be tough to defend in the spread.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Wynn may be back this weekend, but I am assuming that the UGA game is more likely.

I think you guys have hit the nail on the head, though. Tebow adds a dimension to our offense and he has been so explosive that I genuinely think teams are a little bit afraid of him (no, not in the sense of worried they cannot tackle him -- more that he opens up a bunch more plays and they need to be thinking about their assignments.).

During the LSU game, when Tebow ran onto the field and Leak off, you could see the LSU guys frantically looking to the sidelines and then talking to each other, trying to be sure what each was supposed to do. It definitely had an effect on them.

Also, while Leak has solidly been moving the team between the 30's, Tebow seems more driven to score, whatever it takes. Obviously, Leak is a much more experienced and accomplished passing QB. But he seems to me sometimes to be too technical and not playing with enough instinct when plays break down, as they inevitably do.
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LAW what are your thoughts on your game this weekend?
 
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My thoughts...Tebow is new, and talented, but dimensional. Once people see him for a little bit, he'll be contained. I'm surprised DC's have not already adjusted to his presence by assigning a one man gang to follow him everywhere. When he's in the game, no one has yet put a single player floating the line just to key on him. Yes, he will have success. He's big. He's fast, He's strong. His dad has a hotline to God. But, once everyone is acclamated to him, things will settle in. He'll still put up big numbers I expect, but he won't be feared as he is now.
 
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Well...if he runs over AU's defense for a second week like McFadden did, I may tweek my assessment. AU will not get embarrassed easily 2 straight weeks. If I were pulling for UF to win, my strategy would be to pin your ears back cause AU will be out for blood and sanctification this week.
 
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finevol said:
LAW what are your thoughts on your game this weekend?
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Well, judging from the only objective measure available, which is the common opponent in LSU, you'd have to like Florida. But, while Florida stacked up fine versus LSU, they didn't really beat them to the tune of two touchdowns' worth as the scroe might indicate.

My sense is that both defenses are very, very good and there is no reason to think this will be a high scoring game. Auburn's offense is more traditional and relies much more on the run. But they will have to string together a lot of drives with no mistakes, and that's tough to do against Florida's defense.

Florida on the other hand STILL seems like it hasn't quite reached its potential offensively. There are flashes of it, but the Gators can't seem to put together back-to-back touchdown drives like they did 6, 7 years ago. They've shown flashes of being able to do that, but not consistently.

I think the score is likely to be similar to LSU -- a total of 30-35 points. And that probably favors Auburn. Put it this way: If Florida can score 20 or more, I think the Gators win. To do that, they must get some rhythm and Auburn is a tough team against which to do that.

If I had to guess, I'd say Florida wins by a touchdown or less.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Well, judging from the only objective measure available, which is the common opponent in LSU, you'd have to like Florida. But, while Florida stacked up fine versus LSU, they didn't really beat them to the tune of two touchdowns' worth as the scroe might indicate.

My sense is that both defenses are very, very good and there is no reason to think this will be a high scoring game. Auburn's offense is more traditional and relies much more on the run. But they will have to string together a lot of drives with no mistakes, and that's tough to do against Florida's defense.

Florida on the other hand STILL seems like it hasn't quite reached its potential offensively. There are flashes of it, but the Gators can't seem to put together back-to-back touchdown drives like they did 6, 7 years ago. They've shown flashes of being able to do that, but not consistently.

I think the score is likely to be similar to LSU -- a total of 30-35 points. And that probably favors Auburn. Put it this way: If Florida can score 20 or more, I think the Gators win. To do that, they must get some rhythm and Auburn is a tough team against which to do that.

If I had to guess, I'd say Florida wins by a touchdown or less.
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One thing UF still does, regardless of the HC, is capitalize on others' mistakes. In a well played game, no way are they 14 point winners over LSU. No disrespect. LSU served that one up in fine choking fashion. All part of the excercise. UF's season thus far reminds me of our '98 season. There was, on more than one occasion, just casue for us losing 2-3 games, but lady luck fell our way. It takes a lot of her during a NC run, especially to do it undefeated. UF has not really dominated yet, but has had some things go their way and subsequently are still undefeated. Did they honestly have the better team in BOTH the UT and LSU game?? Probably not in either. And I'm sure UM is very glad UT is done and gone. He wouldn't want any now. But, somehow they're hanging around. Be advised, the last 2nd ranked SEC team this season got beat. If De Ja Vu doesn't come knocking, UF could very well sneak through the season and into the NC undefeated.
 
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