Gay liberals show their true colors (hypocrites)

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lawgator1 said:
I don't recall reading that he told us to judge other people. In fact, quite the opposite.

He did say to spread his word and I'm fine with that. But not the judging part. Like I said, that's his job.
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Please explain this "don't judge" stuff that so many people throw around. I want to learn more about this not judging.
 
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allvol123 said:
Please explain this "don't judge" stuff that so many people throw around. I want to learn more about this not judging.
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To me, there is an enormous difference between criticizing someone's attitude or demeanor versus deciding that they are going to Hell. We are all free to do the former, but only God decides the latter.

At least that's my fundamental grasp on the way things work.

So, if people want to say "yuck" when confronted with the notion of two men having sex, I got no problem with that at all. And in fact it makes me grimace to even think of that.

But, when people then proclaim that the two men have violated God's laws and that there's going to be consequences, that's where I start to get a little uncomfortable. Let's just say I think that conclusion is better left to Someone way over my pay grade.
 
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thats the problem IMO with the liberal (loon) left. They speak of being open minded etc etc, and yet when i have a different view then they do then i am automatically wrong. Take the election for example. I wrote a blog which was essentially a letter to obama addressing some of the things he talked about in his rhetoric heavy campaign, and asking him how he was going to implement his ideas etc. well a bunch of people got on there and was calling me racist for voting for mccain and having such questions. its amazing how closed minded the people that cram open mindednes down peoples throats can be....
good day
 
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GASOUTHERNVOL said:
thats the problem IMO with the liberal (loon) left. They speak of being open minded etc etc, and yet when i have a different view then they do then i am automatically wrong. Take the election for example. I wrote a blog which was essentially a letter to obama addressing some of the things he talked about in his rhetoric heavy campaign, and asking him how he was going to implement his ideas etc. well a bunch of people got on there and was calling me racist for voting for mccain and having such questions. its amazing how closed minded the people that cram open mindednes down peoples throats can be....
good day
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I applaud you for questioning the details behind the rhetoric. IMO, that's where McCain wanted to go in this but he got tugged away from that and into the slime pit by the traditional politicos and that just wasn't going to work with this economy. Had he been talking from the beginning about the tax cuts, what to do with capital gains, oil dependency, how much Obama's programs and notions would cost, I really think that would have resonated better with the undecideds.

Honestly, I think that as people's 401ks dwindled in half, they just got frustrated and tired of the usual antics and Obama's discipline of at least appearing to confine himself to policy issues was what made him attractive. He may or may not deliver, but he had the right tone at the end, given the circumstances we find ourselves in.
 
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lawgator1 said:
I applaud you for questioning the details behind the rhetoric. IMO, that's where McCain wanted to go in this but he got tugged away from that and into the slime pit by the traditional politicos and that just wasn't going to work with this economy. Had he been talking from the beginning about the tax cuts, what to do with capital gains, oil dependency, how much Obama's programs and notions would cost, I really think that would have resonated better with the undecideds.

Honestly, I think that as people's 401ks dwindled in half, they just got frustrated and tired of the usual antics and Obama's discipline of at least appearing to confine himself to policy issues was what made him attractive. He may or may not deliver, but he had the right tone at the end, given the circumstances we find ourselves in.
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oh yah definatly. but im reminded of another person who had a lot of the same ideas and promises. It was the early 1930's and he was a german, who was overwhelming elected as chancelor. and eventually dragged the enitire world into a war with an invasion of poland in 1939....
 
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GASOUTHERNVOL said:
oh yah definatly. but im reminded of another person who had a lot of the same ideas and promises. It was the early 1930's and he was a german, who was overwhelming elected as chancelor. and eventually dragged the enitire world into a war with an invasion of poland in 1939....
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Have to say that's the first time I can recall anyone comparing Obama to Hitler.

You say he has "a lot of the same ideas and promises." Can you maybe list, oh, say 5 of them that are the same?

Its been awhile since I had any coursework in The Weimarch and Beyond, but I am pretty sure Hitler didn't have much to say about bailing out the auto industry or tax cuts for the middle class, or rolling back previous tax cuts for the wealthy. And I really don't recall much from Obama on invading Poland or ridding the world of Jewish people.

I mean, seriously, you are kind of a wee bit off the mark with that comparison, don't you think?
 
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lawgator1 said:
Have to say that's the first time I can recall anyone comparing Obama to Hitler.

You say he has "a lot of the same ideas and promises." Can you maybe list, oh, say 5 of them that are the same?

Its been awhile since I had any coursework in The Weimarch and Beyond, but I am pretty sure Hitler didn't have much to say about bailing out the auto industry or tax cuts for the middle class, or rolling back previous tax cuts for the wealthy. And I really don't recall much from Obama on invading Poland or ridding the world of Jewish people.

I mean, seriously, you are kind of a wee bit off the mark with that comparison, don't you think?
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Coincidentally, I had this emailed to me by one of my coworkers today.

Teapot Tantrums: Fascinating Comparison of Obama and Hitler
 
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lawgator1 said:
Utter crap. Seriously delusional junk.
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I agree . . . but I can also see why people are a little uneasy at watching a leader using high rhetoric in front of gigantic crowds that seem to swoon every time he breathes. I wouldn't dare make a Hitler comparison, but some of Obama's speeches do have a sort of dictator look to them.
 
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therealUT said:
Read the Bible once again. The stories of Sodom and Gomorrah are more about rape than they are about homosexuality.
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Further, the story is even more about not finding a single righteous person in either city, type of sin or moral decay indifferent, than destruction for any particular sin.
 
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lawgator1 said:
I read part of it, skimmed the rest.

Utter crap. Seriously delusional junk.
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lawgator1 said:
Its about as thin a piece masquerading as real science that you will ever read.
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It's an opinion.

Coincidental similarities between Obama and Hilter. Nothing more, nothing less. To claim the piece is "masquerading as real science", is a bit of a stretch.
 
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therealUT said:
There is a difference between forcing and judging. I am not in favor of forcing my views on anyone. However, saying that it is not Christ like to judge is closer to blasphemy than it is to truth.

Christ simply says that you should only judge others by the standard at which you are willing to be judged yourself. If you notice also, that earlier in his Sermon on the Mount, he reaffirms the Laws of Moses...most people who try to use "Judge not lest ye be judged yourself" in order to exact their own moral relativism seem to overlook the following:

It certainly does not seem as though Jesus was speaking out against all forms of human judgment.
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I see your point, but respectfully disagree. We are also told to "remove the plank from our own eye before seeing the speck in someone else's." As well as "whoever you judge, you will be judged moreover", or ten times more depending on translations. I don't have my bible with me for a direct quote so...

I think the point being with respect to what I read from your post is that you are saying we should stand up for, and teach the truth as it is written. That in some degree probably is judging because you are putting the word out there as we were instructed. I don't think that applies to judging others as God will judge. Not being made perfect, we cannot impose that type of judgment on another imperfect person. We can however teach the truth, defend the truth, and let God add the increase. The charge we were given is the Great Commission. We were not granted the wisdom to encroach on things in God's domain. It is a personal choice to accept or reject.
 
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lawgator1 said:
To me, there is an enormous difference between criticizing someone's attitude or demeanor versus deciding that they are going to Hell. We are all free to do the former, but only God decides the latter.

At least that's my fundamental grasp on the way things work.

So, if people want to say "yuck" when confronted with the notion of two men having sex, I got no problem with that at all. And in fact it makes me grimace to even think of that.

But, when people then proclaim that the two men have violated God's laws and that there's going to be consequences, that's where I start to get a little uncomfortable. Let's just say I think that conclusion is better left to Someone way over my pay grade.
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Hell, I agree in large part with what you just said. I feel like I see people throw the "don't judge" comment around though in a different way. When people use it to say God does not intend me to judge the behaviors of people in regards to how they play a role in my life, I do not get that at all and completely disagree with it.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Have to say that's the first time I can recall anyone comparing Obama to Hitler.

You say he has "a lot of the same ideas and promises." Can you maybe list, oh, say 5 of them that are the same?

Its been awhile since I had any coursework in The Weimarch and Beyond, but I am pretty sure Hitler didn't have much to say about bailing out the auto industry or tax cuts for the middle class, or rolling back previous tax cuts for the wealthy. And I really don't recall much from Obama on invading Poland or ridding the world of Jewish people.

I mean, seriously, you are kind of a wee bit off the mark with that comparison, don't you think?
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im talking about his manerisms, and his speeches and how everyone just blindly follows.
oh yah btw, hitler did do a form of bailout for the german automakers its called volkswagon....

lets see civillian defense force aka secret police

and all his speeches demanding change, im pretty sure whats what got adolf elected.

im not trying to say that obama is going to invade canada and try to rid the world of jews, but i am saying to be cautious about a leader that so many people have taken to so easy without question.
 
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