Gay Marriage

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#26
I don't see though how one can say it isn't against nature wether you feel it is a choice or someone is born that way. If they are born that way then shouldn't there be a "cure"? It does go against nature, even if you believe in evolution you would have to say it goes against nature. Why would a species evolve to where the same sex is attracted to one another when this would cause that species to die out? Sorry but it is not natural for someone to stick something in my booty!!!
 
#27
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allvol123 said:
I am against gay marriage. But I disagree that someone can't be born gay. I person can be born dyslexic (sp?), so I imagine a person could be born that reads sexuality incorrectly, or differently to keep from offending gay people.
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Dyslexia is a disorder and can be cured for the most part. So what you are saying here is "being born gay" is a form of disorder or genetic problem??? So it can be cured or helped for the most part??? Also, how can a 6 month or 2 year old distinguish from who is gay and who isn't. That's not a very good argument right there.
 
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JZVOL said:
I don't see though how one can say it isn't against nature wether you feel it is a choice or someone is born that way. If they are born that way then shouldn't there be a "cure"? It does go against nature, even if you believe in evolution you would have to say it goes against nature. Why would a species evolve to where the same sex is attracted to one another when this would cause that species to die out? Sorry but it is not natural for someone to stick something in my booty!!!
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There are many things people are born with that are not curable. And who are you to decide what's natural or not? I choose not to judge people like that. The wonderful thing about human beings is that we are not all alike.

g8terh8ter_eric said:
Dyslexia is a disorder and can be cured for the most part. So what you are saying here is "being born gay" is a form of disorder or genetic problem??? So it can be cured or helped for the most part??? Also, how can a 6 month or 2 year old distinguish from who is gay and who isn't. That's not a very good argument right there.
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Being born gay is no more a genetic disorder than being born white or black.
 
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
Dyslexia is a disorder and can be cured for the most part. So what you are saying here is "being born gay" is a form of disorder or genetic problem??? So it can be cured or helped for the most part??? Also, how can a 6 month or 2 year old distinguish from who is gay and who isn't. That's not a very good argument right there.
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If no one is being harmed and two adults want to be close behind doors ,whats the prob?
 
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You know people could be born gay but if that's the case how do you explain some people that start straight then turn gay then go straight etc.? people don't have dyslexia(sp?) and lose it then reaquire it.
 
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JZVOL said:
I don't see though how one can say it isn't against nature wether you feel it is a choice or someone is born that way. If they are born that way then shouldn't there be a "cure"? It does go against nature, even if you believe in evolution you would have to say it goes against nature. Why would a species evolve to where the same sex is attracted to one another when this would cause that species to die out? Sorry but it is not natural for someone to stick something in my booty!!!
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I dont think it is good for creation but who cares, there are plenty of us who will.
 
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JZVOL said:
You know people could be born gay but if that's the case how do you explain some people that start straight then turn gay then go straight etc.? people don't have dyslexia(sp?) and lose it then reaquire it.
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confused
 
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
Dyslexia is a disorder and can be cured for the most part. So what you are saying here is "being born gay" is a form of disorder or genetic problem??? So it can be cured or helped for the most part??? Also, how can a 6 month or 2 year old distinguish from who is gay and who isn't. That's not a very good argument right there.
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Actually it is a very credible argument. If you can contemplate that there are reactions in your brain that cause you to be attracted to the opposite sex, then you SHOULD be able to understand the idea of people having brains where these reactions have been flawed for some reason.

Yes, I am sure a cure or solution could be developed for it. And I think it should be.
 
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
This country is based on "Christian" values. Have any of you actually read some of the State Constitutions??? They have plenty of references to God. The federal government is not responsible for this matter, the state's are. I think if you want to be gay and be married then move to a state that already has it. Don't complain or try to change another state because you don't want to leave. Maybe one of these days we will have a country based on morals again, but I doubt it.

http://www.state.tn.us/sos/bluebook/online/section5/tnconst.pdf
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Thank you, Reverand Falwell.
 
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Fine Vol said:
If no one is being harmed and two adults want to be close behind doors ,whats the prob?
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I really don't care what 2 consenting adults do behind closed doors. But I do have a problem when they start to bring it out into society.
 
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Fine Vol said:
If no one is being harmed and two adults want to be close behind doors ,whats the prob?
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Well lets mix in alittle Biology here. I know that some species can reproduce asexually. There is no species on Earth that can reproduce homosexually. Also, if the two that are gay want children, then do they use other gay couples for that reason??? Why does this just not look like something that should be happening?? You want to be gay, go for it, but when you have to give your own account to God when you are judged don't say that we didn't try to tell you.
 
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allvol123 said:
Actually it is a very credible argument. If you can contemplate that there are reactions in your brain that cause you to be attracted to the opposite sex, then you SHOULD be able to understand the idea of people having brains where these reactions have been flawed for some reason.

Yes, I am sure a cure or solution could be developed for it. And I think it should be.
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for gays?
 
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
Well lets mix in alittle Biology here. I know that some species can reproduce asexually. There is no species on Earth that can reproduce homosexually. Also, if the two that are gay want children, then do they use other gay couples for that reason??? Why does this just not look like something that should be happening?? You want to be gay, go for it, but when you have to give your own account to God when you are judged don't say that we didn't try to tell you.
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I believe in Jesus, I just dont use the book for back up, I like to think for myself.
 
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
How do they know who is or who isn't born gay?? You aren't born gay, you don't know what the heck gay is. It is wrong, against nature, and God himself destoyed two cities partly for this very thing. Your surroundings, who you are around, what you watch, your interests, and morals all dictate what you will become. You choose everything in this life you do, including your sexual preference. Saying someone is born gay is like saying you know when you are born you will drive off a cliff and kill yourself someday.
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You're scary sometimes..
 
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
Also, if the two that are gay want children, then do they use other gay couples for that reason??? Why does this just not look like something that should be happening??
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So if a man is born without an arm we should make no attempt to give him a prosthetic since it's God's will? Just because the ability was not given from birth does not mean it should be denied.
 
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utvolpj said:
There are many things people are born with that are not curable. And who are you to decide what's natural or not? I choose not to judge people like that. The wonderful thing about human beings is that we are not all alike.

that is the only arguement people can come up with- who am i to say what is natural? Nature says it's not natural, the Bible says so. It would not be natural for our species to be attracted to the same sex when that would kill off our species.

Being born gay is no more a genetic disorder than being born white or black.
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please don't compare being black or white to being gay. One can't change races(maybe michael jackson can) while one can switch from hetero to homo.
 
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
How do they know who is or who isn't born gay?? You aren't born gay, you don't know what the heck gay is. It is wrong, against nature, and God himself destoyed two cities partly for this very thing. Your surroundings, who you are around, what you watch, your interests, and morals all dictate what you will become. You choose everything in this life you do, including your sexual preference. Saying someone is born gay is like saying you know when you are born you will drive off a cliff and kill yourself someday.
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You're scary sometimes.. I don't even know where to start with all of this nonsense so I'm just going to leave it alone.
 
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JZVOL said:
please don't compare being black or white to being gay. One can't change races(maybe michael jackson can) while one can switch from hetero to homo.
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I doubt this switch from hetero to homo is as easy as you think.
 
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Fine Vol said:
If no one is being harmed and two adults want to be close behind doors ,whats the prob?
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Don't dare interject logic and reason into this debate. Didn't you know that the moral code of bible thumping zealots should trump individual freedom and privacy?
 
#47
#47
I will say one thing and one thing only....Leviticus 18:22 'Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman; that is detestable
 
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JZVOL said:
I don't see though how one can say it isn't against nature wether you feel it is a choice or someone is born that way. If they are born that way then shouldn't there be a "cure"? It does go against nature, even if you believe in evolution you would have to say it goes against nature. Why would a species evolve to where the same sex is attracted to one another when this would cause that species to die out? Sorry but it is not natural for someone to stick something in my booty!!!
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Yeah, I've noticed that the planet has become terribly underpopulated.
 
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Fine Vol said:
confused
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I'm saying if (and i'm not sure if you do or don't) you believe people are born gay how would you explain people that go back and forth between being gay then going straight. That is a choice, why would some people be born gay while others choose to do it?
 
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