Gay sex immoral says US general

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Gay rights groups in the US have complained after the country's top military commander said he believed homosexual acts were "immoral".


Marine General Peter Pace, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said he backed the Pentagon's "don't ask, don't tell" policy regarding homosexuality. The policy bans homosexual acts between members of the military.
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A gay rights group called the comments "a slap in the face to gay men and women serving with honour and bravery".
Joe Solomonese, president of Human Rights Campaign, said: "What is immoral is to weaken our national security because of personal prejudices."
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"I believe homosexual acts between two individuals are immoral and that we should not condone immoral acts," Gen Pace told the Chicago Tribune.
"As an individual, I would not want [acceptance of gay behaviour] to be our policy, just like I would not want it to be our policy that if we were to find out that so-and-so was sleeping with somebody else's wife, that we would just look the other way, which we do not. We prosecute that kind of immoral behaviour," he said.
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Thoughts?
 
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Not supporting his comments since I don't agree that gay = immoral, but he later said his comments (reflecting his morals) should not have been part of his answer.
 
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Gay sex is immoral but blombing the hell out of innocent civillians is an American passtime.
 
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The problem with morals is that morals are not the same from culture to culture. Also, morals change with the times. Things that were once acceptable are now crimes, while things that would once get you stoned to death by the mob are now socially acceptable. Anything that is fluid like that is bad for the global corporations. We must all think alike so we can all be effectively marketed to.
 
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What would happen if lower ranking officers or even enlisted made political statements in this manner?

Now instead of focusing on the task at hand, the top military official has created a huge controversy that will no doubt cause a distraction to duty and a debate within the military itself.
 
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allvol123 said:
He should be hanged. How dare he express his opinion, especially that opinion.
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Let me put it this way. He unleashed the term "immoral" on a group of people that are responsible, at most, for increased pedophilia. He has now provided the left with the leverage they need to begin to call our military, and our troops, "immoral." He has given all who possess strong anti-war sentiment the right to say, "I do not support the war, nor the troops," and with that, they will begin to follow suit with a certain treatment towards returning combatants.

Also, coming from the CJCS, this remark will inevitably lead to open homosexuality in the military much sooner than would have occured otherwise.

It was a comment in which there was no reason for.
 
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If you believe in the military and its training then it does not matter if the guy in the foxhole is gay or strait if he is trained. He is a soldier at that point. piriod!
 
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If gay sex is deemed immoral based on references in the Bible, the military needs to remove all pornography from the base exchanges, work to shut down the sex shops right off posts, and then start cracking down on sex before marriage, binge drinking, etc.

The issue here is that if one "immoral" act is cracked down on by the military based on religious beliefs, you'll have to enforce the same moral standards across the board. You can't pick and choose which "immoral" acts to prohibit.
 
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Fine Vol said:
If you believe in the military and its training then it does not matter if the guy in the foxhole is gay or strait if he is trained. He is a soldier at that point. piriod!
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the average soldier is trained, but if we're expecting them to be enlightened liberal types who are accepting of everyone, then we're enjoying a very nice pipe dream.
 
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therealUT said:
Let me put it this way. He unleashed the term "immoral" on a group of people that are responsible, at most, for increased pedophilia. He has now provided the left with the leverage they need to begin to call our military, and our troops, "immoral." He has given all who possess strong anti-war sentiment the right to say, "I do not support the war, nor the troops," and with that, they will begin to follow suit with a certain treatment towards returning combatants.

Also, coming from the CJCS, this remark will inevitably lead to open homosexuality in the military much sooner than would have occured otherwise.

It was a comment in which there was no reason for.
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I don't really care what he has supplied the "left" with. If you are against the military, you were before this comment made, most likely already against them. Again, anyone mis-treating returning combatants would have already done this, regardless of his comments. He stated his beliefs and I am ok with that. There was also no reason for him to hide or feel ashamed of his opinions.

Also, I did not know they were responsible for increased pedophilia. But I would submit that they have had a substantial role in the spread of AIDS.
 
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Actually, the CDC has VERY recently stated that Black males are the leading group in AIDS cases. Be ready for the Klan to use this in their next event.
 
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Also, I think people confuse the idea of someone that views homosexuality as immoral the same as that person hating homosexuals. That is really inaccurate. I view homosexuality as immoral, but that does not shape my view of an individual person. I do not hate homosexuals, but rather homosexuality. Same goes for liars, thieves, adulterers, etc...I do not consider homosexuality any worse than any of the sins I have committed in my lifetime. Just wanted to get that straight before someone threw out that ridiculous "homophobe" term
 
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allvol123 said:
Also, I think people confuse the idea of someone that views homosexuality as immoral the same as that person hating homosexuals. That is really inaccurate. I view homosexuality as immoral, but that does not shape my view of an individual person. I do not hate homosexuals, but rather homosexuality. Same goes for liars, thieves, adulterers, etc...I do not consider homosexuality any worse than any of the sins I have committed in my lifetime. Just wanted to get that straight before someone threw out that ridiculous "homophobe" term
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Yes, but liars, thieves, adulterers, etc. are all allowed to openly serve in our military.
 
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