PLEASE read what I wrote. Perfect vaccines give an individual 100% immunity but may not produce ANY immunity in some portion of the population. Here is an older article relating to "perfect" vs leaky vaccines relating to a specific case of interest in chickens. If you really want to understand this topic then you should read this article.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-make-viruses-more-deadly-new-study-suggests/
A "perfect" vaccine does not mean that 100% of the population gets 100% immunity
Yes. But it still compares to the unvaccinated who get it. About 80% of Israelis have been vaccinated. So at best that relates to a number worse than the reported number in my community.... something on the order of 70% unvaccinated vs 30% vaccinated. That's considerably higher than the original claims.
Not sure since it isn't what you said or how you used it.
Did you read the article I provided or the study it links to? Did you do a web search to see how many articles and studies there were prior to Covid saying the same thing? Not sure how you can look at that and say it is not established science. It does not mean that it "DID" give us the Delta variant or any of the others. But it is without any question a possibility and a very, very major concern.
In most viruses like almost every other species of life, mutations are directional and weaken the population over time. The point of those studies and arguments is that certain types of vaccines actually facilitate the cultivation of stronger virus strains. You should read those articles. I'm open to counter-arguments if you find them from prior to Covid.
It may.... or it may die. The question is over 10 years will we save more lives by vaccinating (if new strains are a result) or allowing treatments and natural immunity to eradicate the virus. Neither of us have the answer. Neither do the "experts". But one of the things I am very, very uncomfortable with is that the "experts" are dismissive at best and suppressive at worst when it comes to information about natural immunity.
There was/is a page on the CDC website that warns against trusting natural immunity for one basic reason- we don't have data to show how long it lasts. Then they have many pages declaring that the vaccines are safe and long lasting... with no real data to support those claims.
At $25/shot and something over $10 billion in big pharma revenue at stake... I'm suspicious that someone is under the influence of people who want their payday for developing the vaccines.
The strategy assumes that the vaccines will not help propagate worse strains before spread is stopped by the vaccine. There's not a lot of assumptions to be made about natural immunity. We know it works. Unfortunately, you also have more initial deaths as we saw last year. However increasingly better treatments will mitigate that risk.
If they're right then the virus will essentially be gone in a year or two. If they're wrong... it could result in the death of 10's of millions more people.
