Georgia player dies

Like the decision of a young person to get in a car drunk and drive really fast? It seems, to be charged with vehicular homicide your actions have to directly cause the fatality. He didn’t make anyone drive fast. Even if you say, hey let’s race it actually isn’t your fault if someone does in fact race and becomes injured. That person could have just as easily said, I’ll go 55
like maybe while drunk and driving fast he swerves into their lane....

If you or I run someone off the road we are more than likely getting charged. especially if we are drunk or driving excessively fast.

I also have no idea if it exists for this particular crime but "conspiracy to commit a crime" is a crime. so yeah if he was talking them into speeding/racing, that COULD be a crime. depends on what Georgia law says.
 
Anyone involved in this should be charged with manslaughter at the minimum. They were contributing to behavior or activity that, not only endangered everyone they came in contact with, but ultimately did take the life of 2 young people.

Carter should go to jail imo.
I think he should be tried. let a jury figure it out. I am just thinking that I would not be treated the same in that situation.
 
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I think he should be tried. let a jury figure it out. I am just thinking that I would not be treated the same in that situation.

I can agree to that. At least acknowledge that his behavior was dangerous and contributed to another person's death.
 
Nobody made the other car race. If the facts had shown he was responsible he would have been charged with more severe crimes. Many here took the narrative that he left the scene cause he was drinking too and ran with it, which was not true.
I am openly a UGA fan, check my post history, but this has nothing to do with fandom. It’s about not trashing a person with patently false information because of blind hatred of the school he played football for.
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I didn’t say he made the other car race. I said if he hadn’t raced with them there would not have been a race Which resulted in the wreck. How do you know he wasn’t drinking? If he is such a fine person why did he leave the scene? Your comments have everything to do with fandom. I have not said anything that is untrue so I am not trashing him but just stating what i know to be true based on the reports that have been made public.
 
I didn’t say he made the other car race. I said if he hadn’t raced with them there would not have been a race Which resulted in the wreck. How do you know he wasn’t drinking? If he is such a fine person why did he leave the scene? Your comments have everything to do with fandom. I have not said anything that is untrue so I am not trashing him but just stating what i know to be true based on the reports that have been made public.
I thought it was announced he didn't leave the scene.
 
Last time it happened there 2 people died. No big deal.
Is it your position that this only happens in Athens, GA? It happens all over the country, every day. I'm all for lacing into rivals but this situation can easily be in our lap tomorrow and what would we say then? It's not like it's an unusual or uncommon set of facts.
 
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Is it your position that this only happens in Athens, GA? It happens all over the country, every day. I'm all for lacing into rivals but this situation can easily be in our lap tomorrow and what would we say then? It's not like it's an unusual or uncommon set of facts.
Yes this happens all over, but this young man just lost a teammate and had restrictions on his license for some reason. HE at a minimum has a discipline problem
 
Is it your position that this only happens in Athens, GA? It happens all over the country, every day. I'm all for lacing into rivals but this situation can easily be in our lap tomorrow and what would we say then? It's not like it's an unusual or uncommon set of facts.
Fair enough, but incidents which caused the Fulmer Cup and subsequent incidents have been laid in our lap and it could easily happen again.

However, a culture change as has occurred in our program, lessens the % of it happening. Alabama's and Georgia's time in the barrel sort of speak. Two prominent programs with a lot of problems at the moment.

A Useful tool in recruiting, as our incidents have been used against us in the past. Does not mean they are not good programs, it just means they have lost player control and created primadonna environments for their players. Texas A&M could be next and we have seen the LSU fiasco as well.

It is all about Culture and entitlement and it runs in cycles.

What message does Kirby send, as we have seen Saban's and Oats. Does he kick the kid off the team, does he slap him on the wrist? Pretty bad in the face of two connected people dying in the face of GA football. Rehab or Move Along little doggie? The results will tell all.
 
Is it your position that this only happens in Athens, GA? It happens all over the country, every day. I'm all for lacing into rivals but this situation can easily be in our lap tomorrow and what would we say then? It's not like it's an unusual or uncommon set of facts.
You do have to admit though, given what has recently happened at UGA and the fact that this dude is a member of the program, that this is particularly thoughtless. I mean, one of his teammates and a UGA staffer died just a couple months ago because of this. Clearly it made no impression on him.
 
You do have to admit though, given what has recently happened at UGA and the fact that this dude is a member of the program, that this is particularly thoughtless. I mean, one of his teammates and a UGA staffer died just a couple months ago because of this. Clearly it made no impression on him.
Yeah, he doesn't look particularly good. He's had a point-blank example of the worst that could happen.
 
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I would not expect he gets kicked off the team. He made a poor decision. If he continues making poor decisions, well, that's something different. Hopefully those looking out for his well-being will speak into his life and point him in the way everlasting.
Fair enough, but incidents which caused the Fulmer Cup and subsequent incidents have been laid in our lap and it could easily happen again.

However, a culture change as has occurred in our program, lessens the % of it happening. Alabama's and Georgia's time in the barrel sort of speak. Two prominent programs with a lot of problems at the moment.

A Useful tool in recruiting, as our incidents have been used against us in the past. Does not mean they are not good programs, it just means they have lost player control and created primadonna environments for their players. Texas A&M could be next and we have seen the LSU fiasco as well.

It is all about Culture and entitlement and it runs in cycles.

What message does Kirby send, as we have seen Saban's and Oats. Does he kick the kid off the team, does he slap him on the wrist? Pretty bad in the face of two connected people dying in the face of GA football. Rehab or Move Along little doggie? The results will tell all.
 
Is it your position that this only happens in Athens, GA? It happens all over the country, every day. I'm all for lacing into rivals but this situation can easily be in our lap tomorrow and what would we say then? It's not like it's an unusual or uncommon set of facts.
I would say exactly what I have said. I’m a big Vol fan, probably before you were even born, but if it was a Vol I would not pull punches.
 
I would say exactly what I have said. I’m a big Vol fan, probably before you were even born, but if it was a Vol I would not pull punches.
My point is it doesn't just happen in Athens, GA, malfeasance involving college students/players and automobiles happens all over the country. I applaud your effort at consistency though, I strive for the same thing, though I doubt you were a Vol fan before I was born, I'm not too young myself. Lol.
 

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