Glenn Beck compares attendees of Nowegian youth camp to Hitler Youth.

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Thought you would all like to all know what Beck has been up to since leaving Fox.

Beck, a multimillionaire darling of the Tea Party movement, said on his nationally-syndicated radio show: "There was a shooting at a political camp, which sounds a little like, you know, the Hitler youth. I mean, who does a camp for kids that's all about politics? Disturbing."

Despite Beck expressing surprise that political movements would hold camps for children, followers of his 9/12 Project – which aims to "recapture the spirit of the day after America was attacked" – have this summer been doing just that.

Norway shooting: Glenn Beck compares dead teenagers to Hitler youth - Telegraph
 
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I made the same comparison the day of the shooting.

How would you characterize the socialist youth camp?

Sultan Knish a blog by Daniel Greenfield

There is very little to be gained from a study of Anders Behring Breivik. He was a loner who was alienated from the society he lived in, suffered from depression, played violent video games, used steroids, listened to angry music and was of above average intelligence. This profile describes half the spree shooters in the last two decades, right down to the Columbine Massacre.

It is not Breivik's politics that make him significant. He was an outsider who despised society and escaped into romantic fantasies of omnipotence fed by video games and popular culture. Breivik cultivated a detached attitude toward the people around him and was obsessed with violent exercises of his masculinity. All this is common to killers of all political stripes and of no political affiliation whatsoever.
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The combination of steroid use, isolation and violent fantasies made him a ticking social time bomb. But it was the system that lit the fuse and made it possible for him to transform personal dysfunction into a political statement. That convinced an intelligent man that he could exploit a social problem to bring down the authorities. It was Breivik who pulled the trigger, but it was the Norwegian authorities who created and then ignored the social problem of Islamic immigration, that enabled him to exploit it in a burst of horrifying violence.

The Oslo killings are a tragic reminder that conflicts rarely remain one sided.
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The search for blame in all the usual places is inevitable, but counterproductive. The Oslo killings are another item on the ledger of the high cost of Islam. The explosive rage on both sides fueled by a social instability created by aggressive immigration with no thought to its impact on the country as a whole. It was Brevik who spent nine years planning and carrying out the attacks, but it was the political authorities who had created a scenario that made it possible.
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Violence driven by social instability must be at least partly laid at the feet of those who caused the social instability. And that is not a handful of American critics of Islam, but the Norwegian authorities whose social and immigration policies created an explosive situation that had already exploded into violence before.
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Muslim violence, whether it is planes being flown into skyscrapers or women being raped with religious sanction, are likely to inspire answering acts of violence. Such acts should be condemned, yet so should the apathy toward the social instability created by Muslim immigration that gives rise to them.

When a woman is raped on the steps of the Norwegian parliament, it should be every bit as shocking as Brevik's massacres, not because their damage is equal, but because they are both wake up calls to a major social problem that cannot be swept under the rug.

Muslim immigration and its attendant violence gave Brevik his casus belli to take action against the authorities.
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Brevik was not a Muslim, yet he was motivated by Islam, as surely as the most devout Jihadist. Islam defined his actions, as surely as it does theirs. The only difference is that they were acting for Islam, while he was acting against it. But the problem of both Brevik and the Jihadist emerges from a common source. Islam.
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Whether it is the Madrid bombings or the Oslo rampage-- all these horrors are a reminder that Europe's current policies have failed. That integration has not worked and multiculturalism has given rise to hostile cultures living side by side.


For all the rhetoric about Breivik being a 'right wing Christian there is prescious little evidence to so characterize him.

There is a recent face book entry in which he characterizes himself as Christian but in his 15,000 page manifesto I don't believe he even mentionss Christianity.

I could be wrong, I havn't read the whole thing have no intention of doing so, however I'm informed this is the truth about his 'manifesto.'
 
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I made the same comparison the day of the shooting.

How would you characterize the socialist youth camp?

Sultan Knish a blog by Daniel Greenfield




For all the rhetoric about Breivik being a 'right wing Christian there is prescious little evidence to so characterize him.

There is a recent face book entry in which he characterizes himself as Christian but in his 15,000 page manifesto I don't believe he even mentionss Christianity.

I could be wrong, I havn't read the whole thing have no intention of doing so, however I'm informed this is the truth about his 'manifesto.'

He refers to himself as a part of the Knights Templar, GS. HE IS A CHRISTIAN TERRORIST.
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He refers to himself as a part of the Knights Templar, GS. HE IS A CHRISTIAN TERRORIST.
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Gs will never admit that. Murder by a Muslim is religious terrorism. The same act by a Christian or conservative is simply an unhinged loner.
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What is so abnormal about a week-long retreat for 16-22 year olds that "belong" to a party? Do the Young Republicans and Young Democrats not have retreats and camps? I think it is ridiculous to make an issue of this. This more than anything offers a glimpse of the mindset behind this guy's apologists...
 
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Gs will never admit that. Murder by a Muslim is religious terrorism. The same act by a Christian or conservative is simply an unhinged loner.
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You find me the christian guy backed by a group of millionaires training guys in the middle of another country that is harboring them and knows they are there and then you get back to me about your point.

Until then you're still a homer.
 
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Thought you would all like to all know what Beck has been up to since leaving Fox.





Norway shooting: Glenn Beck compares dead teenagers to Hitler youth - Telegraph

Stunning.

Could a better anecdote of the depravity of the ultra-bourgeois mind (about 15% of the population) be dreamed up by our greatest writers?

Let's not forget, this might have been a Labor retreat in Norway, but it was still very, very bourgeois.

Beck's comments bring into question some fundamentals on democracy. Where does an opinion deviate so much from the real world outside the back door that it can be given no credence? It cannot be respected in any serious conversation? Again, we are talking about 10 - 15% of the population would probably hold a similar view - a superminority to be sure, but a visible slice of the population nonetheless.

But should this opinion even be registered in an authentic democracy? Perhaps it wouldn't exist in an authentic democracy (where, by definition, the population is informed of the issues upon which they must decide a course of action).

Beck's comments, in fact, negate democracy where all citizens would be constantly mobilized in determining their own destiny.

When a group say "there is no force between two masses" or "there is no force between two charged particles" - what can be said? Do they warrant their opinion being voiced?

Sobering questions for real democracy.
 
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He refers to himself as a part of the Knights Templar, GS. HE IS A CHRISTIAN TERRORIST.
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BS!

Sultan Knish a blog by Daniel Greenfield

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Gs will never admit that. Murder by a Muslim is religious terrorism. The same act by a Christian or conservative is simply an unhinged loner.
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You have tens of thousands of islamo fascist terror
attacks in the last ten years vs only a very few that
can be attributed to Christian or conservative perps.

Even then the motivation doesn't come from either
Christian teachings or conservative views.

The last four letters in American...I Can
The last four letters in Republican...I Can
The last four letters in Democrats...Rats
End of lesson.


You use bourgeois a little too much.


Give him a break, that's all the French he knows.

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Do you even make points? Or just copy paste 'clever' puns and jabs from others' blogs. I'm guessing the latter.
 
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Apparently, Breivik's statements in which he calls himself a member of the Knights Templar and his statement from page 1307, which GS was kind enough to provide, in which he says, "I believe in Christianity as a moral platform" are both indicators that he is definitively not Christian.
 
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Republicans can't be spelled without lies either. Or rape. I've discovered something surely.

he's clueless. Also not clever. I am expecting him to use my post and say that I am indeed the one who is clueless and not clever...you know cause he can't think for himself.
 
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Liberals cannot be spelled without Israel, or bile, or rail, or sail, or sale, or real, or bras.
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Tasty...apples included?
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no. I don't eat it. Brie is obviously the food of cowards and neo-marxists...otherwise it wouldn't be scattered through 'liberals'.

Oh, and OBAMA FAILS at POTUS! Get him out or his flies will come after you nextz!
 
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I personally don't think he's a "christian" not only because of his comments about.. well.. not being a Christian. Also because I know a lot of Christians around here who claim to be Christians who act like they've never read the Bible. That being said, I don't believe there are Muslim terrorist either. I know Muslims that wouldn't hurt a fly.

The center of being a Christian is the Bible, and same for Muslims and the Quran. The Bible condemns murder so, this guy obviously doesn't care about Christan morals. And I'm not going to pretend to know enough about the Quran and what is condemned or justified in their religion. So calling him a Christian terrorist is ridiculous, just as ridiculous as calling anyone a Muslim terrorist.
 
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RubinReports: The "Oslo Syndrome" and the Terror Attack in Norway

The youth political camp he attacked was at the time engaged in what was essentially (though the campers didn’t see it that way, no doubt) a pro-terrorist program.

The camp, run by Norway’s left-wing party, was lobbying for breaking the blockade of the terrorist Hamas regime in the Gaza Strip and for immediate recognition of a Palestinian state without that entity needing do anything that would prevent it from being a terrorist base against Israel. They were backing and justifying forces that had committed terrorism against Israelis and killing thousands of people like themselves.

So you see what was being promoted in the camp was almost identical to what the nazi party stood for.

Now if only the media and various political readers in Norway stop acting as if its justified when Israeli kids are murdered by terrorists we might actually make some progress against all those extremists who are practicing--and rationalizing--terrorism.

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