GM to announce closure of 14 plants

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On Monday. It will be interesting to see how many of these plants are in right to work states and how many are in union states. Just saying.
 
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hmmmm i wonder. I saw yesterday, on another note, that all but 1 of the Chrysler dealerships that were given the boot had management which donated to the GOP in recent years, I'd post a link but searching from my phone is a nightmare. The Dear Leader and minions are out for revenge.
 
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JTrainDavis said:
hmmmm i wonder. I saw yesterday, on another note, that all but 1 of the Chrysler dealerships that were given the boot had management which donated to the GOP in recent years, I'd post a link but searching from my phone is a nightmare. The Dear Leader and minions are out for revenge.
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I saw that story. It is what made me think of this thread. With government involved in running GM, there is clearly an interest in keeping their primary voters happy. I'd be nervous if I worked at the Spring Hill plant. Or any other plant say in - Florida, Texas, NC, etc.
 
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After the plant closings are announced, I'll get with LG and we'll write a report on whether there is some unscrupulous activity being perpetrated by the Obama administration.
 
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allvol123 said:
After the plant closings are announced, I'll get with LG and we'll write a report on whether there is some unscrupulous activity being perpetrated by the Obama administration.
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Just Tammany politics, if you don't play along with them, they destroy you, simple as that.
 
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To quickly review the situation, I took all dealer owners whose names appeared more than once in the list. And, of those who contributed to political campaigns, every single one had donated almost exclusively to GOP candidates. While this isn't an exhaustive review, it does have some ominous implications if it can be verified.However, I also found additional research online at Scribd (author unknown), which also appears to point to a highly partisan decision-making process. . . .I have thus far found only a single Obama donor (and a minor one at that: $200 from Jeffrey Hunter of Waco, Texas) on the closing list.

Best of the Web Today: Beat the Dealer - WSJ.com

the sad part is it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if this was true. obama is putting bush to shame in the "win at all costs" and "help my buddies out" games.
 
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droski said:
To quickly review the situation, I took all dealer owners whose names appeared more than once in the list. And, of those who contributed to political campaigns, every single one had donated almost exclusively to GOP candidates. While this isn't an exhaustive review, it does have some ominous implications if it can be verified.However, I also found additional research online at Scribd (author unknown), which also appears to point to a highly partisan decision-making process. . . .I have thus far found only a single Obama donor (and a minor one at that: $200 from Jeffrey Hunter of Waco, Texas) on the closing list.

Best of the Web Today: Beat the Dealer - WSJ.com

the sad part is it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if this was true. obama is putting bush to shame in the "win at all costs" and "help my buddies out" games.
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And people continue to follow the Tammany song and dance blindly. Eventually people will catch on, i'd love for someone to come out with some back room tapes or something to that effect of the inner dealings here.
 
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droski said:
To quickly review the situation, I took all dealer owners whose names appeared more than once in the list. And, of those who contributed to political campaigns, every single one had donated almost exclusively to GOP candidates. While this isn't an exhaustive review, it does have some ominous implications if it can be verified.However, I also found additional research online at Scribd (author unknown), which also appears to point to a highly partisan decision-making process. . . .I have thus far found only a single Obama donor (and a minor one at that: $200 from Jeffrey Hunter of Waco, Texas) on the closing list.

Best of the Web Today: Beat the Dealer - WSJ.com

the sad part is it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if this was true. obama is putting bush to shame in the "win at all costs" and "help my buddies out" games.
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As far as closing dealerships, I've never seen it explained, how does this benefit the car companies? The dealerships are independently owned. How does this cut costs for the car companies or benefit them?
 
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droski said:
To quickly review the situation, I took all dealer owners whose names appeared more than once in the list. And, of those who contributed to political campaigns, every single one had donated almost exclusively to GOP candidates. While this isn't an exhaustive review, it does have some ominous implications if it can be verified.However, I also found additional research online at Scribd (author unknown), which also appears to point to a highly partisan decision-making process. . . .I have thus far found only a single Obama donor (and a minor one at that: $200 from Jeffrey Hunter of Waco, Texas) on the closing list.

Best of the Web Today: Beat the Dealer - WSJ.com

the sad part is it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if this was true. obama is putting bush to shame in the "win at all costs" and "help my buddies out" games.
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The more things change, the more they stay the same.
 
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allvol123 said:
As far as closing dealerships, I've never seen it explained, how does this benefit the car companies? The dealerships are independently owned. How does this cut costs for the car companies or benefit them?
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i think the concern is that the supply of cars is so high because of all the dealerships that they have to sell the cars to them below cost. but i've wondered that same question too.
 
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droski said:
i think the concern is that the supply of cars is so high because of all the dealerships that they have to sell the cars to them below cost. but i've wondered that same question too.
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ok. Glad to know I wasn't the only one curious of this strategy.
 
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allvol123 said:
As far as closing dealerships, I've never seen it explained, how does this benefit the car companies? The dealerships are independently owned. How does this cut costs for the car companies or benefit them?
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you'll see the government set up dummie dealerships, it will be prop to allow illegal donations come from saudi and china. they'll be selling cars for 300-500k. since the government owns it, all the money will go to unions, who in return will give money back to the DNC in forms of contributions. it's a good scheme.
 
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allvol123 said:
I saw that story. It is what made me think of this thread. With government involved in running GM, there is clearly an interest in keeping their primary voters happy. I'd be nervous if I worked at the Spring Hill plant. Or any other plant say in - Florida, Texas, NC, etc.
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Saturn is a dying nameplate anyway. It's fate was sealed when they (GM) decided to start rebadging Opels and stop being "a different kind of company, a different kind of car."
 
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MG1968 said:
Saturn is a dying nameplate anyway. It's fate was sealed when they (GM) decided to start rebadging Opels and stop being "a different kind of company, a different kind of car."
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Yea, but their core was never gas guzzling SUVs or pick up trucks, those things Obama and his crew hate. So they could've stood a chance considering that, but the whole right to work deal probably has them on dangerous ground.
 
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the Spring Hill plant is a UAW shop. I don't know how many, if any, workers there declined to join the union but I'm sure their lives were made miserable by goons.

Obama and his crew love SUV's. Especially those big up-armored jobs he toodles around in when he's not wasting taxpayer money flying around the country on Air Force One and making campaign appearances for "Dirty" Harry Reid.
 
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MG1968 said:
the Spring Hill plant is a UAW shop. I don't know how many, if any, workers there declined to join the union but I'm sure their lives were made miserable by goons.

Obama and his crew love SUV's. Especially those big up-armored jobs he toodles around in when he's not wasting taxpayer money flying around the country on Air Force One and making campaign appearances for "Dirty" Harry Reid.
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Did not know that. Still, it is a right to work state. Not something I would think Obama is a fan of.
 
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This whole deal has me scared to death, almost, for some odd reason more than them taking over the banks. First the Gov't swoops in and declares themselves owners and on the board. They then fire the CEO. Then tell the stockholders (many of whom are just middle class people with retirement funds) to fly off a cliff and basically hand the ownership almost fully over to the unions and the gov't. I know the CEO's came flying in on their silver chariots before hitching a ride on greyhound to beg for money, and in a way *they* deserve what they get. I just feel for the people: investors, small companies that build parts for them, and creditors that are basically getting the shaft to keep one of President Obama's main bases happy. Now GM is going to be a giant money sinking jobs program. Such a mess.
 
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MG1968 said:
Saturn is a dying nameplate anyway. It's fate was sealed when they (GM) decided to start rebadging Opels and stop being "a different kind of company, a different kind of car."
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I could be wrong but I thought Spring Hill started building the Chevy Equinox or whatever it is called. Maybe they build Saturn too or at least the Saturn that sits on the same frame as the Equinox. I think it is a small SUV type vehicle like a Jeep Liberty.

They might stand a chance if their equipment is newer as it should be more cost effective it would seem to use a plant with newer and more efficient equipment. I know some of those plants in Michigan are very old.
 
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JTrainDavis said:
hmmmm i wonder. I saw yesterday, on another note, that all but 1 of the Chrysler dealerships that were given the boot had management which donated to the GOP in recent years, I'd post a link but searching from my phone is a nightmare. The Dear Leader and minions are out for revenge.
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Probably because car dealers that donated to the GOP vs. Dems ratio is about 17-1.
 
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