Gone but not forgotten: Knoxville area restaurants and retailers we miss.

[Thunder Good-Oil]

John Patty moved his car dealership from Tazewell to Wilbanks Rd. in Knoxville in the late 70's. The name changed to Patty Bros., and I think it was a Ford dealership. Great visibility from the interstate! The building sat up on the hill on Wilbanks just after turning off Callahan. The dealership closed in the early 90's (I think) and it sat vacant and open for a long time. If you walked inside, there were a number of cars still there, including a fairly nice 60's Mustang.

After the Patty Bros. building was torn down, there was a liquor store which didn't last long, then that building was torn down, and it's a truck parking area now.

Patty Brothers Datsun was at I-75 and Callahan Road around 1976. There was another Datsun dealership at Kingston Pike and Gallaher View Road. I think that building for West Knox Datsun is still there... it might have been a cell phone (Cellular One?) retailer for a while. West Knox became Nissan, but I don't remember Patty Brothers being a Nissan dealership, but I didn't get out that way very often... maybe it did at some point.

 

[LakeMaryFLVol]

What was the liquor store next to Gradys on strip for gamedays with the assembly line/belt operation that had 12 mini jack bottles in a little cardboard package for 20 dollars cash only. Continuously moving line

 

[MAD]

Ok I have some storms that I have to keep an eye on, I have some tall trees, have a good evening.

Hope you survived the storm

 

[Vjcvette]

Hope you survived the storm

Hey, I did and I was so thankful that it kind of fizzled out by the time it came through because I have a line of 40 ft trees, and I was trying to put
a picture of them on here, but I sent it to my computer and I don't know where it went, but sweet of you to ask....

 

[Vjcvette]

Hope you survived the storm

Oh the picture finally arrived at my computer, anyway these are the trees that I have to watch if I am going to get high winds, and also move my
car, they make my car look like a match box car.

 

[Vjcvette]

My sister and I in front of my dads brand new 1970 Oldsmobile Cutlass.
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That is such a cute picture

 

[NEVolFan]

Patty Brothers Datsun was at I-75 and Callahan Road around 1976. There was another Datsun dealership at Kingston Pike and Gallaher View Road. I think that building for West Knox Datsun is still there... it might have been a cell phone (Cellular One?) retailer for a while. West Knox became Nissan, but I don't remember Patty Brothers being a Nissan dealership, but I didn't get out that way very often... maybe it did at some point.

Remember David Keith doing ads for Cellular One... He could barely pronounce Cellular... always got a chuckle out of that ad.

 

[Vjcvette]

Except I can't remember the Orange Julius. I'd always go to the Orange Bowl. Was the arcade where the food court is now?

There was a clothing store just down from the Orange Bowl towards Proffit's... can't remember what it was called. On the corner near an entrance. Then there was another near the current food court... Frankenberger's I think. And another across from Frankenberger's that I can't recall the name.

I believe that the Orange Julius was on the corner on the left before you would get to the Orange Bowl on down on the right.

 

[Chris4Vols22]

I didn't want to start a new thread about this, so I'm hoping you guys can help me. Check out this story:

Man makes money buying own pizzas on delivery app

Now I'm getting hung up on something here. It says that the owner did not ask to be on DoorDash to begin with, and he did not know his restaurant was on it until he started getting complaints about deliveries. BUT it states that the restaurant also never offered delivery in the first place.

I worked at a very comparable pizza place when I was in school, and we did knowingly have multiple 3rd party services for delivery. Whenever an order is placed through these services, the restaurant receives the order from the DELIVERY SERVICE, not the customer. On top of that, the delivery drivers have to physically pick up the order from the store.

So, how in the world was the owner unaware of his business being available on DoorDash? I know that's not the point of the article, but this is killing me! Anyone have a clue?
@cncchris33 @Dallasbowlin @Thunder Good-Oil @golfballs

 

[Thunder Good-Oil]

I didn't want to start a new thread about this, so I'm hoping you guys can help me. Check out this story:

Man makes money buying own pizzas on delivery app

Now I'm getting hung up on something here. It says that the owner did not ask to be on DoorDash to begin with, and he did not know his restaurant was on it until he started getting complaints about deliveries. BUT it states that the restaurant also never offered delivery in the first place.

I worked at a very comparable pizza place when I was in school, and we did knowingly have multiple 3rd party services for delivery. Whenever an order is placed through these services, the restaurant receives the order from the DELIVERY SERVICE, not the customer. On top of that, the delivery drivers have to physically pick up the order from the store.

So, how in the world was the owner unaware of his business being available on DoorDash? I know that's not the point of the article, but this is killing me! Anyone have a clue?
@cncchris33 @Dallasbowlin @Thunder Good-Oil @golfballs

Well, there's not a complete time line included in the story. He was aware of it in March 2019, so maybe there weren't too many deliveries made before he figured it out. It also doesn't indicate if the owner was also the store manager or not, but you'd think that he probably was. Also, DoorDash is based in San Francisco and this was a test promotion in the UK, so DD maybe hadn't been operating very long in that location as of March 2019.

 

[Chris4Vols22]

Well, there's not a complete time line included in the story. He was aware of it in March 2019, so maybe there weren't too many deliveries made before he figured it out. It also doesn't indicate if the owner was also the store manager or not, but you'd think that he probably was. Also, DoorDash is based in San Francisco and this was a test promotion in the UK, so DD maybe hadn't been operating very long in that location as of March 2019.

It says it's a US restaurant, but that's not especially relevant. The only thing I can come up with is that the owner had to be completely oblivious as to what was going on in his restaurant. These delivery services have to network with the restaurant to have an ordering system and a way to get the funds to the business.

This guy is apparently a lucky idiot who didn't even know what was going on, and then masterfully exploited it.

 

[Thunder Good-Oil]

I believe that the Orange Julius was on the corner on the left before you would get to the Orange Bowl on down on the right.

I'm drawing a blank on the OJ location. Maybe the corner that lead to where Sears was? I think that the Orange Bowl was betweens Proffit's and Miller's (Dilliard's) on the Kingston Pike side.

I just read on Wikipedia that the food court is actually on the footprint of the old Frankenbergers. Also, Dick's Sporting Goods and a golf business (Golf Galaxy, a subsidiary of Dick's) are going into the area where Sears was demolished. And the clothing store that I was trying to remember that was across from Frankenbergers was the Merry-Go-Round. I still don't recall the name of the clothing store near the Orange Bowl on that corner.

I'd like to see the original store directory/map from 1972. Miller's actually opened a year or two before the entire mall did and they had an automobile service center across the parking lot (to the west/along Montvue Road... Ray Mears Blvd wasn't there yet). Sears also had a separate auto building across the parking lot from their store (due south, later replaced by one at the SW corner of the mall property) and Firestone had one across the parking lot from JCP on the east side (by Morrell Road). The Firestone spot might have originally been a Western Auto. That's possibly even mentioned earlier in this thread.

 

[MAD]

I'm drawing a blank on the OJ location. Maybe the corner that lead to where Sears was? I think that the Orange Bowl was betweens Proffit's and Miller's (Dilliard's) on the Kingston Pike side.

I just read on Wikipedia that the food court is actually on the footprint of the old Frankenbergers. Also, Dick's Sporting Goods and a golf business (Golf Galaxy, a subsidiary of Dick's) are going into the area where Sears was demolished. And the clothing store that I was trying to remember that was across from Frankenbergers was the Merry-Go-Round. I still don't recall the name of the clothing store near the Orange Bowl on that corner.

I'd like to see the original store directory/map from 1972. Miller's actually opened a year or two before the entire mall did and they had an automobile service center across the parking lot (to the west/along Montvue Road... Ray Mears Blvd wasn't there yet). Sears also had a separate auto building across the parking lot from their store (due south, later replaced by one at the SW corner of the mall property) and Firestone had one across the parking lot from JCP on the east side (by Morrell Road). The Firestone spot might have originally been a Western Auto. That's possibly even mentioned earlier in this thread.

 

[Vjcvette]

I'm drawing a blank on the OJ location. Maybe the corner that lead to where Sears was? I think that the Orange Bowl was betweens Proffit's and Miller's (Dilliard's) on the Kingston Pike side.

I just read on Wikipedia that the food court is actually on the footprint of the old Frankenbergers. Also, Dick's Sporting Goods and a golf business (Golf Galaxy, a subsidiary of Dick's) are going into the area where Sears was demolished. And the clothing store that I was trying to remember that was across from Frankenbergers was the Merry-Go-Round. I still don't recall the name of the clothing store near the Orange Bowl on that corner.

I'd like to see the original store directory/map from 1972. Miller's actually opened a year or two before the entire mall did and they had an automobile service center across the parking lot (to the west/along Montvue Road... Ray Mears Blvd wasn't there yet). Sears also had a separate auto building across the parking lot from their store (due south, later replaced by one at the SW corner of the mall property) and Firestone had one across the parking lot from JCP on the east side (by Morrell Road). The Firestone spot might have originally been a Western Auto. That's possibly even mentioned earlier in this thread.

I really liked them and that is why I remember that shop, but it was on the corner in the left, which if you came into the main entrance of the Mall and you did not take a left or a right, you would run into it on the corner
on the right, and I believe that they could have put a jewelry store there later. Anyway I have tried to make them, and whipped up some orange juice and whip cream and it did taste like them.

 

[Vjcvette]

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Ok, I don't know if I was right or wrong after seeing this blue print...........lol

 

[Thunder Good-Oil]

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Looks correct. Exit JCP and Record Bar was on the left and Spencer's Gifts was on the right a little farther down. I had many OB pizza slices, but didn't visit OJ very often. The leather store was just north of the OJ and I don't remember the original name.

What was the name of the clothing store next to the record bar that had a Polar Bear rug on the stairs?

 

[Thunder Good-Oil]

Coming in through the east entrance and on the right side was Baskin-Robbins and Oliver Smith Realty in a small space (probably was the mall office as well), around the corner to the right and Walgreen's took about half of the space.

On the left was a cafeteria ( that became Rubt Tuesday years later) and a ladies hair place.

Hickory Farms (or something) was between the Orange Bowl and Miller's. Sold meat in tubes and cheese. Radio Shack might have been across from them.

About 3 or 4 shoe stores and 3 or 4 small dress shops/women's clothing stores were scattered about. Maybe 2 bookstores, one of which was a good sized space near the OJ. Possibly Gatewsy or Hallmark.

The Orange Bowl had the employees in the center and small tables lined the walls. There were maybe bigger ones at the front and back.

 

[MAD]

Looks correct. Exit JCP and Record Bar was on the left and Spencer's Gifts was on the right a little farther down. I had many OB pizza slices, but didn't visit OJ very often. The leather store was just north of the OJ and I don't remember the original name.

What was the name of the clothing store next to the record bar that had a Polar Bear rug on the stairs?

Yeah the leather store was my parents, it was called Susane Suede & Leather Fasions, was named after my sister Susan. They also had a location on Cumberland Ave that was across the street from McDonalds. A Kinkos opened up on Cumberland where there store was located.

 

[MAD]

Coming in through the east entrance and on the right side was Baskin-Robbins and Oliver Smith Realty in a small space (probably was the mall office as well), around the corner to the right and Walgreen's took about half of the space.

On the left was a cafeteria ( that became Rubt Tuesday years later) and a ladies hair place.

Hickory Farms (or something) was between the Orange Bowl and Miller's. Sold meat in tubes and cheese. Radio Shack might have been across from them.

About 3 or 4 shoe stores and 3 or 4 small dress shops/women's clothing stores were scattered about. Maybe 2 bookstores, one of which was a good sized space near the OJ. Possibly Gatewsy or Hallmark.

The Orange Bowl had the employees in the center and small tables lined the walls. There were maybe bigger ones at the front and back.

You have a great memory, very impressive.

 

[Thunder Good-Oil]

Yeah the leather store was my parents, it was called Susane Suede & Leather Fasions, was named after my sister Susan. They also had a location on Cumberland Ave that was across the street from McDonalds. A Kinkos opened up on Cumberland where there store was located.

I bought a suede jacket there with money saved from selling Cokes at Neyland Stadium, mowing yards, and delivering papers. Mom got them to mark it down some because it had an ink stain on the shoulder.

Was there a pretzel store near Susane's? I'm foggier on that.

Still looking for the names of the clothing stores at the corner when entering from the north entrance and the one with the polar bear rug by the Record Bar (lots of blue, glass, and stainless steel decor iirc). The one near the Orange Bowl was kind of nautical... big ass ropes and wooden poles.

 

[Thunder Good-Oil]

Chess King was somewhere. Maybe the polar bear rug place.

 

[MAD]

I bought a suede jacket there with money saved from selling Cokes at Neyland Stadium, mowing yards, and delivering papers. Mom got them to mark it down some because it had an ink stain on the shoulder.

Was there a pretzel store near Susane's? I'm foggier on that.

Still looking for the names of the clothing stores at the corner when entering from the north entrance and the one with the polar bear rug by the Record Bar (lots of blue, glass, and stainless steel decor iirc). The one near the Orange Bowl was kind of nautical... big ass ropes and wooden poles.

I bought a suede jacket there with money saved from selling Cokes at Neyland Stadium, mowing yards, and delivering papers. Mom got them to mark it down some because it had an ink stain on the shoulder.

Was there a pretzel store near Susane's? I'm foggier on that.

Still looking for the names of the clothing stores at the corner when entering from the north entrance and the one with the polar bear rug by the Record Bar (lots of blue, glass, and stainless steel decor iirc). The one near the Orange Bowl was kind of nautical... big ass ropes and wooden poles.

There was a bakery called Tiffany’s right next to my moms shop and if you went a little further down there was a place selling better chocolates. I remember getting pretzels from somewhere but forget where.
Cool story about your suede jacket, I’ll mention it to my mom.

 

[Boca Vol]

Looks correct. Exit JCP and Record Bar was on the left and Spencer's Gifts was on the right a little farther down. I had many OB pizza slices, but didn't visit OJ very often. The leather store was just north of the OJ and I don't remember the original name.

What was the name of the clothing store next to the record bar that had a Polar Bear rug on the stairs?

Liked for Record Bar and Spencers....wasn't Champs near there, as well?

 

[Thunder Good-Oil]

Liked for Record Bar and Spencers....wasn't Champs near there, as well?

I'm pretty sure that Champ's would have been many years after WTM was open. Foot Locker as well. Actually I can't think of any sports store in the mid-70s at WTM. I did buy 5 mixed Ram irons for $3/each at Miller's. 2, 3, 5, 7, 9. Still have them. Also a 1 and 3 wood. Dad gave me his putter, bought himself a new Ping, and wanted his original putter back. So my Ping putter was worth worth more than everything else in the bag. Including the bag.

 

[Boca Vol]

I'm pretty sure that Champ's would have been many years after WTM was open. Foot Locker as well. Actually I can't think of any sports store in the mid-70s at WTM. I did buy 5 mixed Ram irons for $3/each at Miller's. 2, 3, 5, 7, 9. Still have them. Also a 1 and 3 wood. Dad gave me his putter, bought himself a new Ping, and wanted his original putter back. So my Ping putter was worth worth more than everything else in the bag. Including the bag.

I'm not sure when Champs came in but wasn't it near the Record Bar? They used to sell these long sleeve UT T-shirts that were off-white and they had basketballs going up one sleeve into the goal on the back. It may have even said, "Bottom!" on the back. They did a spin-off for the the '82 Peach Bowl vs. Iowa. Don't ask me what made me think of those shirts...I guess the irons you bought at Miller's. On the Ping putter if the shaft label is a black band with silver lettering that reads TUNED BALLNAMIC PING GOLF CLUB BY KARSTEN CO. PO BOX 1345 SCOTTSDALE, ARIZ 85212...you have a collector's item.