Good explanation regarding Tennessee’s current recruiting and portal situation

[pimo1]

Good question...cuz I don't read clickbait.

Its not clickbait, at all. Its a really well written and well researched article. Reading it would help a lot of folks not make arses of themselves.

 

[pimo1]

The bad part is people see guys like Ryan Williams and Jeremiah Smith and think oh man our true FR should do that. Guys like that don’t grow in trees. Not every true freshman plays and plays well.

There is like 1 or 2 guys like that a year nationally at each position. Other than that results vary wildly. Boo was one also.

 

[bigorangepoppa]

forgive me if this has already been posted:

Explaining Tennessee football roster crunch that limits Josh Heupel in transfer portal

So, you're telling me the sky isn't falling?

 

[bigorangepoppa]

Good question...cuz I don't read clickbait.

It's not click bait. It's a very good explanation of the number of players Heupel can have on the roster.

 

[bigorangepoppa]

I wonder if the decision to sign so many high school players stems from the idea perhaps Heup didn’t expect so many to hit the portal? If you think you’re only losing say 14-16 players you may be more inclined to go younger in this cycle??

Also just thinking out loud if signing large HS classes is going to be bad strategy going forward? Most won’t stay long term and it may limit you (like this year) in getting game ready talent for critical position needs. Just a thought.

Heupel has no choice but to make the numbers work. If I am remembering this correctly, the loss of scholarships amounts to 12 less between when the penalty was put in place, and 2028. Any team that is not on probation will get their full allotment of scholarships, so it does make a difference in the big picture.

 

[savannahfan]

I think that's exactly what they're doing. I think they focused specifically on McCoy & Heard last year. I'm hearing we're trying to make a play on Branch. We're losing players but I dint think people realize that we nearly have a full roster and alot of guys had to go. We might only have 4-5 spots open so he has to be real specific in the way he fills those spots. 2 impact WR's and the entire outlook changes.

If this is a sample of the staff's evaluating potential, then they got a problem....

 

[Volhoops]

Every idiot in here should read this and then STFU and let our coach do his job. It's obvious that people are frustrated with the lack of information coming from UT related to recruiting but they don't owe anyone that information.

Gloom and doom my A$$

I agree up until the point that they want fans to contribute to the NIL collective. Fans should get information to attract more donations.

 

[sami]

Every idiot in here should read this and then STFU and let our coach do his job. It's obvious that people are frustrated with the lack of information coming from UT related to recruiting but they don't owe anyone that information.

Gloom and doom my A$$

It's easier and clearly more fun for the trolls to react knee-jerk style to click bait garbage from ignoramuses who don't have a clue what's happening inside the building than it is to actually be informed before posting their every emotion.

 

[sami]

forgive me if this has already been posted:

Explaining Tennessee football roster crunch that limits Josh Heupel in transfer portal

Thanks for posting this. It's nice to know what's really happening instead of the ignorant speculation of online hacks.

 

[sami]

I wonder if the decision to sign so many high school players stems from the idea perhaps Heup didn’t expect so many to hit the portal? If you think you’re only losing say 14-16 players you may be more inclined to go younger in this cycle??

Also just thinking out loud if signing large HS classes is going to be bad strategy going forward? Most won’t stay long term and it may limit you (like this year) in getting game ready talent for critical position needs. Just a thought.

I get the feeling that many of these portal losses were pushed out the door to make room for younger players. We all saw the lack of production from the WR group - perhaps Josh saw the same thing and this is addition by subtraction. It isn't as if major programs are scooping up the guys who left here.

Your second point appears to be the big question. Josh clearly wants to get younger and develop from within, which has always been the way to build a strong, lasting program. I like that approach along with adding a few key players from the portal, but it remains to be seen if it is sustainable moving forward.

 

[hound dog hillbil]

If getting experience of younger players is important, why didn't they hit field before 3 mins remaining in game in some blow outs this yr.

 

[Jimmyandjoes]

If this is a sample of the staff's evaluating potential, then they got a problem....

You don't think those 2 guys are good? Explain a little more there.
If you get 50% of your portal guys are 2nd team All SEC in their first year and McCoy might be All American next year. I'd take that in a heartbeat. I think Heard will be much better next year but we'll see. Still,McCoy is WAY better than expected

 

[901 Orange]

If this is a sample of the staff's evaluating potential, then they got a problem....

Well both of those players came in and were SEC caliber starters, McCoy in particular is a freaking All American. If bringing in a specific player at a specific position who becomes an All American or at the very least a starter is a problem, idk what to tell u

 

[Orange.]

If Bama fans can keep the Saban family from embezzling their NIL, fahr all their coaches, light up twitter, and boycott games, I think they can turn their program around.

That’s why you can’t get public figures for every Bama player’s NIL and what Bama offers each recruit and portal guy. Bama NIL is robbing Bama fans.

 

[volfeeva]

Find out what Ohio St is doing and copy them.

 

[ddubb76]

Every idiot in here should read this and then STFU and let our coach do his job. It's obvious that people are frustrated with the lack of information coming from UT related to recruiting but they don't owe anyone that information.

Gloom and doom my A$$

I’m not saying I agree or disagree with any particular group, however, I do think people like you are the same group that discouraged fans from saying bad things about fulmer Dooley jones and Pruitt. I personally disagreed about the fulmer bashing, but realized later it was warranted. Again, I’m not on any fire coach train, but he is not above criticism after that pitiful display.

 

[Johnnyreb#VFL]

Hell I’ll take recruits over portal players any day.

 

[Mccage]

Well both of those players came in and were SEC caliber starters, McCoy in particular is a freaking All American. If bringing in a specific player at a specific position who becomes an All American or at the very least a starter is a problem, idk what to tell u

Usually fans of a team know their players…maybe he’s not a fan

 

[Volfan1000]

Pruitt is the gift that keeps on giving

Famous Cousin Eddie Quote About Clark Griswold's Jelly Bonus.

It's the gift that keeps on giving the year round.

 

[BernardKingGOAT]

This article says a lot without really saying anything.

The whole recruiting scandal reduction of scholarships is kind of a red herring. We only lose 2 or 3 scholarship players total per year. Most teams get 85 we get like 82 or 83 that's no big damn deal. If your team it teetering on the edge of disaster because of 2 less scholarships then something else is bad wrong with your program. The bigger issue is that this incoming class is #5 under Josh Heupel so there should already be considerable depth throughout the roster regardless of scholarship reductions. We saw this big time on the D Line. We had like 3 complete D lines that we could rotate. We need to sacrifice a little of that to get more depth on the OL. Then we have the issue with an entire position group abandoning the team. Whether that was Heupel's plan to push them all out or they left because of bad blood with a coach who knows but it's not a good sign and this article doesn't address it at all so it's like a distraction 'hey look over here at this thing that's not really a thing' article.

Bottom line is the team is going to get younger. Is that a good thing for a QB that still needs development and will be throwing to all new receivers next year? That's the article I want to read.

Our team isn't teetering on the edge of disaster

 

[GUNTERSVOL]

I’m not saying I agree or disagree with any particular group, however, I do think people like you are the same group that discouraged fans from saying bad things about fulmer Dooley jones and Pruitt. I personally disagreed about the fulmer bashing, but realized later it was warranted. Again, I’m not on any fire coach train, but he is not above criticism after that pitiful display.

Anybody that defends dumping CPF without a replacement on the hook is nuts. Counting on the WE ARE TENNESSEE solution brought the decades we experienced.

No problem with the thoughts he may not be able to duplicate his old levels and therefore his job was in play, but for folks that want to use numbers, go back and look at his response to his previous losing season and then justify a crapshoot. Bet DW has a validated short list in his drawer before he pulls a trigger.

No level of genius can insulate you from damage by leaders without character. See Kiffin, see Pruitt. Dooley and Jones were missing abilities to perform at our level, not character, but were residual damage from the Kiffin decision.