Good Looking Team - Cowherd Theory

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Volos said:
I was thinking about what makes this team really special and much stronger than the sum of its parts. When you just look at our level of talent, it's hard to imagine that we would be where we are. That got me to thinking about something Colin Cowherd said years ago, I think it was something about good looking players making good quarterbacks, maybe because of confidence or something. That got me to thinking about how much confidence this team always seems to play with and how good looking (not in a weird way) our star players are. If you look at Hooker or Tilman, each one has that terrific smile and would make them super attractive to the ladies. Even if you look at our backup qb, Milton has an amazing body. Does anyone have a picture that was posted last year on VN of him practicing without his shirt on? His chest and abs are ridiculously defined, almost like a sculpture. Even our best defensive players, like Banks, are objectively really attractive guys. I think the confidence that these guys have had their entire lives from being good looking and probably chased by the ladies carries over onto the field. They are always so poised and confident. Anyway, I always thought that Cowherd was one of the smartest radio guys around and when it comes to confidence and attractiveness, I think he might be on to something. Obviously we wouldn't just go out and try to recruit a bunch of Zac Efrons, but it's cool to see how it all works out with a confident team. It might be something that we use in QB recruiting in the future. Look at guys like Brady and GOff, those guys can basically be models. And some of our best QBs like Hooker, Ainge, and the Iceman and were really good looking guys.
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#154
You don't watch
Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
So you just think it's chance that the two most winning athletes in modern American sports history also happen to be two of the most facially attractive?

Also if you include the likes of Kobe Bryant, Wilt Chamberlain, etc., the most dominant athletes of all-time are disproportionately attractive. Very few GOATs are simply average looking let alone ugly.

By the way one of the reasons for this is biology. The most dominant men tend to have high testosterone levels and those in turn lead to features women find attractive. So in a biological sense it does make sense for why the best athletes tend to also be attractive. So its not an observation without any scientific logic behind it.
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Do you watch women's basketball?
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
So you just think it's chance that the two most winning athletes in modern American sports history also happen to be two of the most facially attractive?

Also if you include the likes of Kobe Bryant, Wilt Chamberlain, etc., the most dominant athletes of all-time are disproportionately attractive. Very few GOATs are simply average looking let alone ugly.

By the way one of the reasons for this is biology. The most dominant men tend to have high testosterone levels and those in turn lead to features women find attractive. So in a biological sense it does make sense for why the best athletes tend to also be attractive. So its not an observation without any scientific logic behind it.
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
So you just think it's chance that the two most winning athletes in modern American sports history also happen to be two of the most facially attractive?

Also if you include the likes of Kobe Bryant, Wilt Chamberlain, etc., the most dominant athletes of all-time are disproportionately attractive. Very few GOATs are simply average looking let alone ugly.

By the way one of the reasons for this is biology. The most dominant men tend to have high testosterone levels and those in turn lead to features women find attractive. So in a biological sense it does make sense for why the best athletes tend to also be attractive. So its not an observation without any scientific logic behind it.
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Again, correlation doesn’t equal causation. You have completely intertwined the two and are leaning on it as the entire base of your reasoning.

Great athletes aren’t great athletes because they are attractive. They’re great athletes because they have good athletic genes, some of which are coexistent with attractiveness (namely physical fitness). That doesn’t mean you can just look at Joe Milton and tell he’s going to be an amazing QB. Or anyone, for that matter. It doesn’t work that way. For every Kobe or Brady who ends up a super star athlete, there are a thousand other good looking dudes selling insurance or practicing law.

And it isn’t just a few outliers, either. There have been a ton of highly performing athletes who were not particularly attractive (any casual view of the Olympics or a world’s strongest man competition will show you this), but also household names like Manning, Bird, Barry Sanders, Terry Bradshaw, Lawrence Taylor, Lebron James, Aaron Rodgers, etc. while not all these dudes are ugly per se, none of them are model types or known for being physically attractive (or if they are, I have certainly missed it).

I actually agree with you that being physically attractive is great for confidence and will undoubtedly help one professionally and socially in almost every walk of life, but it’s not a magic wand. Scouts are not going to be sitting there comparing prospects at a micro level making predictions based on their attractiveness. That’s ridiculous.
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
Outliers don't make the rule. I don't think anyone argued you can't be a great athlete if you're not attractive. The point here is there seems to be a correlation between highly successful athletes and a tendency to be facially attractive.

With that said I wouldn't say Peyton was ugly. He just had a big forehead which became more problematic as he aged and his hairline receded. Young Peyton Manning had objectively good facial features.
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Elway, Marino, Mannings, Rodgers, Favre, Roethlisberger, Eric Dickerson, Charles Haley, LT, Von Miller, Cooper Kupp, Shaq, Larry Bird, Kareem, Jerry West, Dr J, Babe Ruth, this list can go on and on and on. Your theory is bunk.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
Elway, Marino, Mannings, Rodgers, Favre, Roethlisberger, Eric Dickerson, Charles Haley, LT, Von Miller, Cooper Kupp, Shaq, Larry Bird, Kareem, Jerry West, Dr J, Babe Ruth, this list can go on and on and on. Your theory is bunk.
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Greatest athlete of them all. Uglier than homemade sin.

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BigOrangeTrain said:
Elway, Marino, Mannings, Rodgers, Favre, Roethlisberger, Eric Dickerson, Charles Haley, LT, Von Miller, Cooper Kupp, Shaq, Larry Bird, Kareem, Jerry West, Dr J, Babe Ruth, this list can go on and on and on. Your theory is bunk.
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Vast majority of those guys are attractive to women. I would suggest sitting down and watching sports sometimes with women. It always used to surprise me which guys they thought were handsome.

For example a female once told me during a basketball game that Russell Westbrook was some super handsome guy. Never would have thought that myself.

Only a few super successful athletes are ugly to women. Your list is just false.
 
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Jax_Vol said:
Scared to ask,,,,,what "traits" are men attracted toward?
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Men are attracted to replication traits. Things like fertility and chastity. While women are attracted to survival traits like protection and provisioning. It's why women care so much about a man's height and income while men care more about a woman's age and body count. Women because they are the more vulnerable sex given their smaller stature and the fact they get pregnant evolved to value traits in men that could help them survive. Men on the other hand don't look to women to survive. All men look for in women is the best chance at reproducing. Since a woman's ability to get pregnant decreases as she ages, men are more hardwired to find women in their 20s to be more attractive than say women in their 30s.

It's simple evolutionary biology.
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
Men are attracted to replication traits. Things like fertility and chastity. While women are attracted to survival traits like protection and provisioning. It's why women care so much about a man's height and income while men care more about a woman's age and body count. Women because they are the more vulnerable sex given their smaller stature and the fact they get pregnant evolved to value traits in men that could help them survive. Men on the other hand don't look to women to survive. All men look for in women is the best chance at reproducing. Since a woman's ability to get pregnant decreases as she ages, men are more hardwired to find women in their 20s to be more attractive than say women in their 30s.

It's simple evolutionary biology.
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Is this why I like thick hair? It means they are more likely to be fertile?
 
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i can’t believe I’m taking this theory seriously, but dobbs 4 heisman seems to be using a lot of confirmation bias in his argument. He just deems the best players as attractive without giving any standard or way to measure attractiveness. You sort of addressed it with the height discussion, but the best of the best are not the tallest. You seem to be alluding to their faces, in which case you would need to show that certain facial structures and or traits are more appealing to others, and then that athletes with that facial structure or traits tend to outplay aimilir athletes with other facial structures or specific facial traits. I’m pretty sure that won’t happen.
 
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