Grade the RNC (well wishes on tonight and wiminz photos included itt)

[GAVol]

It gets on my nerves when the week before the election the networks will have these focus groups of people that has been following the candidates for several months but just cannot make up their minds who to vote for.

I've always believed that undecided voters after Labor Day are either attention whores or some of the dumbest people on Earth.

 

[GAVol]

I question the integrity of these focus groups. Hannity had a group of 6 or 7 the other night and the claim was that each had voted for Obama in '08 and now what were they going to do ?

Admittedly, he has some disillusioned folks from '08 to now, but the people on this focus group seemed awfully critical, and using phrases and comments that seemed to be cut and paste from the GOP media guide.

How can you know who they voted for in 2008? What, does Fox put out an ad and say, hey, want to be on Hannity? You can if you voted for Obama but are now willing to say he sucks. Who is going to see and respond to that ?

Very suspicious.

I'm trying to figure that documentary out. One of the guys involved is Pat Cadell who at least ar one time leaned a little left, but I've always found him to be pretty forthright in his commentary.

 

[volinbham]

I thought they pulled off a nice one too - within the bounds of what you expect from a convention.

I'm not a fan of either party - and even less of a fan of these party circle jerks - but as long as they exist in politics, this is how they should be modeld.

Only catch is it seems Ryan is getting a little loose with facts and that can cost them. They need to reign that in. Democratic party has done enough silly stuff that can be discussed without making things up.

The thing is that he really wasn't. That was the immediate press narrative but if you go back and look at the details he didn't lie about anything or make anything up.

For example, yesterday Obama gave a speech where he said Mitt Romney offered "no new ideas at all". Technically that is not true but I doubt anyone will claim he was making things up.

 

[volinbham]

I question the integrity of these focus groups. Hannity had a group of 6 or 7 the other night and the claim was that each had voted for Obama in '08 and now what were they going to do ?

Admittedly, he has some disillusioned folks from '08 to now, but the people on this focus group seemed awfully critical, and using phrases and comments that seemed to be cut and paste from the GOP media guide.

How can you know who they voted for in 2008? What, does Fox put out an ad and say, hey, want to be on Hannity? You can if you voted for Obama but are now willing to say he sucks. Who is going to see and respond to that ?

Very suspicious.

CNN did the same thing with a group of undecideds in Florida who voted for Obama in 2008. Do you trust that CNN recruited people properly?

In the big picture I think these things are pretty worthless and serve to fill air time but I don't see that Fox has the fix in with a made up FG panel.

 

[TruthIsOutThere]

If this election is about facts, how does Obama come close?

If the above is true - cant his challengers hold themselves to a higher standard?

 

[BigPapaVol]

If the above is true - cant his challengers hold themselves to a higher standard?

what is "the above?"