Gran leaving due to Kiffin's remarks?

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TheMayja said:
I've heard Kiffin has mended everything in south Florida and has gained a lot of respect down there.

I think it boils down to Gran wanting to be closer to his family (less travel time from S Fla to Tallahassee) and getting a raise.
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Tallahassee to Miami is close if you consider Little Rock, Ark, or Pittsburgh, PA being close to Knoxville...so I wouldn't even try the proximity arguement.
 
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TENNaciousUTfan said:
Tallahassee to Miami is close if you consider Little Rock, Ark, or Pittsburgh, PA being close to Knoxville...so I wouldn't even try the proximity arguement.
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+1, I live down here in Ft. Lauderdale. Its a good 7 hours to Tally, and to really get into Miami I'd have to go about 45 mins to an hour south so Miami to Tally is a good 8 hours. He will be flying to So.Fla from FSU the same as he was from UT so the proximity argument is silly.
 
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feathersax said:
Stupid thread. If Eddie Gran leaves it will be for $$$ & a better opportunity. That's pretty basic.
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Assuming that FSU can offer more money and is a better opportunity is stupid. There is more to this and the talk that we are not even trying to keep him.

The more I think about it, it might be that he wants to work in an environment that is not so demanding.

CEG is a family man and the Kiffins and CEO are known for putting in long hours of hard work. CEG might not like the demanding work schedule that keeps him from his family.

Happiness at your job having an effect on whether or not you stay is also pretty basic.
 
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I have absolutely no INSIDE information on this what so ever, but I do know that he coached with Fisher before and they like each other a lot. I also hear he is being offered the Recruiting Coordinator spot since Coley is promoting to OC.

Nothing I have heard lends any credence to any other advancement position wise, he is expected to be RB coach there, with the RC responsibilities as well.

He is a big get for us IF he comes, his connections in the muck are priceless, and anyone who tries to downplay that is either not knowledgable of Florida football, or simply in denial.
 
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"Chances are that it is not a lateral move. It would not surprise me if he was hired as a recruiting coordinator."

Not happening they already have tight end coach james coley doing that job and he isnt going anywhere hell he just got jeff luc to commit u think he is getting fired???dont think so and he isnt gonna get a promotion up the ladder from the way it looks at this point.
 
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JustinTN27 said:
"Chances are that it is not a lateral move. It would not surprise me if he was hired as a recruiting coordinator."

Not happening they already have tight end coach james coley doing that job and he isnt going anywhere hell he just got jeff luc to commit u think he is getting fired???dont think so and he isnt gonna get a promotion up the ladder from the way it looks at this point.
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Coley is going to be the new OC, and word is Gran will take over the RC responsibilities is he comes. Coley is a hell of a recruiter in his own right, I am anxious to see how he does as OC though... I am sure Jimbo will still retain most of the control over the Offense, like Saban does his defense.
 
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Kiffin did mention that some coaches was sleeping in their offices, this would tend to scream that Im not moving my family here. Not sure if CEG was one of them, but I dont think Kiffin was blind sided. He has been on a recruiting trail, whats to say he hasnt also been on the trail looking for coaches also?
 
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Not surprised at all, you just can't keep this many legit recruiting coordinator and/or O/D coordinator prospects on one staff. Kudos to Kiffin for getting this all star staff assembled for a year to get this program relaunched, but now it is time to back fill with some younger up and comers to mix with the veteran coaches. I think it will ultimately keep the energy level higher and make for better staff chemistry. I always figured Gran was a temporary solution as we'd lose him once Tubby landed anyways.
 
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Jimbo is going to have to win fast. Eddie must not be very happy to get into that mess down there. Although a pile of cash is hard to turn down. In reality it doesn't really matter what happens to Jimbo, Gran will land on his feet regardless. I wish he'd stay, but he seemed like a odd fit to begin with.
 
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Its Vol Time said:
Kiffin did mention that some coaches was sleeping in their offices, this would tend to scream that Im not moving my family here. Not sure if CEG was one of them, but I dont think Kiffin was blind sided. He has been on a recruiting trail, whats to say he hasnt also been on the trail looking for coaches also?
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If that was the case, it could explain why Kiffin isn't even trying to keep Gran here. He probably knew this was coming. Most of this staff is NFL quality which also means a crap load of hours goes into preparation and recruiting. I remember a story about Spurrier not being pleased with the amount of hours that he had to put in at the pro level, could be entirely possible and more likely probable that coaches like Lane, Monte, Cregg, and O expect this dedication out of the other members of the staff.
 
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gainesvol82 said:
:eek:lol: at you for asking for a link to a rumor.
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Just wondering where you heard the rumor... and yes, some rumors do have links, people do post that stuff on blogs, websites, news outlets, etc... it happens all the time in the era of the interwebz, or did you just get online?

I just want to know where you heard this, because I had not. Or, are you just trying to read the tea leaves and figure out what happened?
 
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Supanole said:
Coley is going to be the new OC, and word is Gran will take over the RC responsibilities is he comes. Coley is a hell of a recruiter in his own right, I am anxious to see how he does as OC though... I am sure Jimbo will still retain most of the control over the Offense, like Saban does his defense.
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Wow I hope for FSU's sake jimbo dosent keep control of the offense. HAHA well actually I do, I cant wait to see this train wreck continue. screw fsu..........GBO!!!!!
 
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gainesvol82 said:
Does anyone think that Gran might be leaving due to heat he caught after Kiffin's Pahokee remarks? It has been rumored for a while that Gran is not happy in Knoxville.

I know that Gran was temporarily shut out of Pahokee earlier this year and that can't have made him happy. The man has made his reputation recruiting S. Fla and Kiffin is very unpopular down there.

I can't think of many logical reasons why Gran would make a lateral move to FSU unless he is just tired of answering criticisms about his association with CLK. I also can't understand why CLK wouldn't try to make a counter offer to keep Gran unless it was made clear that Gran would refuse it.

Thoughts?
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Sounds like a troll who hates CLK question to me!!!!!!!!!!
 
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If I remember correctly, the comments about sleeping in offices was when they first took over last January... but also when they were committing so much time to the team and practice. I doubt any of them didn't take up a residence in the area.

But like players, there are going to be coaches that aren't going to be willing to commit at the level CLK demands. If I remember correctly, Gran was one of the ones that seemed to struggle with that some.

I hope he doesn't leave... but he's hardly the only guy that can coach RB's or recruit Florida.
 
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MystifyingVol said:
Just wondering where you heard the rumor... and yes, some rumors do have links, people do post that stuff on blogs, websites, news outlets, etc... it happens all the time in the era of the interwebz, or did you just get online?

I just want to know where you heard this, because I had not. Or, are you just trying to read the tea leaves and figure out what happened?
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Please go to the Rumor mill and turn right,,, that's where it is...
 
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Wilson and Gran were the two lowest paid assistants on staff, CLK will replace with coaches of the same caliber with recruiting ties to the same areas. His staff will turn over constantly. Gran to another conference is cool and Wilson was just going home. We need to keep CEO, CJC and Cregg. The rest are either family or replaceable. Another year or two and it won't matter who leaves. CLK will prove its both a place for players to get to the pros and assistant coaches to get promoted and paid!!! Gotta keep CLK, he's our Coach!!!!! GO VOLS!
 
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I read earlier where Gran had told Coach Tubby that he was like the 5th best recruiter on the staff, so maybe there's some ego and pride involved as well. He's used to being the top dog.
But he's moving closer to home - wish him well and move on. Speculate on who we get to replace him.
 
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DaddyChad said:
If that was the case, it could explain why Kiffin isn't even trying to keep Gran here. He probably knew this was coming. Most of this staff is NFL quality which also means a crap load of hours goes into preparation and recruiting. I remember a story about Spurrier not being pleased with the amount of hours that he had to put in at the pro level, could be entirely possible and more likely probable that coaches like Lane, Monte, Cregg, and O expect this dedication out of the other members of the staff.
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I think that's exactly why Spurrier took the USCjr job: shorter working hours so he can spend more time on the golf course. How is that working out for him? :p
 
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nash101 said:
I read earlier where Gran had told Coach Tubby that he was like the 5th best recruiter on the staff, so maybe there's some ego and pride involved as well. He's used to being the top dog.
But he's moving closer to home - wish him well and move on. Speculate on who we get to replace him.
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Gran may also be looking to be in a position to move up to an OC position sooner rather than later. Doesn't look like that's a possibility here...not with CLK calling the plays. That may be a big factor...Rivals said UT made a counter offer with a fat raise. Don't know if it matched FSU's, but sounds like the staff really wanted to keep him.

I really would love to see Kippy Brown brought in to replace Wilson, and perhaps steal Jay Graham from USCjr as the running backs coach. The tradeoff is that they don't come in with smashing resumes as recruiters, but it's for obvious reasons. Kippy last coached WR's (and I think he was promoted to a Co-OC position last season) for the Detroit Lions. He has been an assistant coach here before, so it's not like recruiting is new to him...or Jay either.

Jay could prove to be our Trooper Taylor...yet with NFL RB experience. He's still relatively new to coaching, but Spurrier loves him. Would be sweet if he is recruiting Kelcy Quarles. Kippy would re-establish our reputation as WR-U. I really think he could get Prater to give us another look. No other team he's considering has coached NFL WR's for years like he has. Kippy would also be a great prospect to possibly promote to OC in the near future.

I think it's important to keep the staff full of coaches with NFL pedigrees. It's extremely attractive for recruits, and it's this staff's best chance to keep an Ace up their sleeve when competing with teams like UF, USC, Bama, LSU, etc for Top 5 recruiting classes. It's the one thing that can help us overcome tendencies toward homestate schools. Lest anyone deny how important it really is, I submit to you exhibit A: Miller and Willis
 
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