Guys who have been successful everywhere they've been

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oregonvol

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Assuming Gruden isn't coming, I think the best hire we can make is someone who has had success, repeatedly, everywhere they have been.

It's fine with me to pull from the mid majors, as long as we get the right guy from the mid majors. Lots of hugely successful coaches start out in the mid majors.

Here's my list. Maybe not all of these guys would make for a great SEC HC, but I think they are all worth interviewing and vetting to see if they have what it takes. They all have proven track records as HCs and coordinators, which is what Dooley never had (and why I knew we were in trouble the day he was hired).

Charlie Strong - 2 National Championships as Defensive Coordinator at Florida. Currently has Louisville undefeated and ranked in top 10.

Butch Jones - Assistant for top 10 ranked West Virginia teams under Rich Rodriguez. 2 MAC Championships in 3 seasons while HC at Central Michigan. 10 win season and AP top 25 ranking as HC at Cincinatti.

Sonny Dykes - won top assistant award while at Texas Tech. Nominated for Broyles award as Offensive Coordinator at Arizona. WAC title and AP top 25 ranking as HC at La Tech.

Mark Hudspeth - multiple 10 win seasons and national playoff runs as HC at N. Alabama. Assistant at Miss State during Mullen's most successful year. 1st bowl game in 41 years as HC at Louisiana Lafayette last year. Posted a 9 win season taking over a team that won 3 games the year before.

Gus Malzahn - OC for Arkansas the last time they won the SEC West. Top ranked offenses as OC at Tulsa. NC as OC at Auburn. Winning record in his first year as HC at Arkansas State.

...Okay, those are just the ones I've thought of recently. Who else belongs on this list?
 
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oregonvol said:
Yeah, Dan Mullen probably belongs there. But I wouldn't discount the success Dykes, Hudspeth, and Malzahn have had.
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No but I don't think they make the kind of splash the fanbase would be happy about. people would be burning mattresses if we hire another coach from La Tech. Gus would be the best of those three, I'm just not quite sold on him.
 
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Hopvol said:
No but I don't think they make the kind of splash the fanbase would be happy about. people would be burning mattresses if we hire another coach from La Tech. Gus would be the best of those three, I'm just not quite sold on him.
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Honestly, people should have been burning mattresses the day Dooley was hired. Now there was a coach, from a small school, with a proven history of losing.

I think a good AD could sell a proven winner to the fans. I mean UT fans are pretty sheepish compared to other SEC fans, anyway. Most of the people on this board wanted to keep Dooley even midway through this season. Florida fans would have burned his house down at the end of last year.
 
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None of them are proven as head coaches in the SEC.

There is only one coach who can and will come that has proven SEC head coaching experience.

He is young
He is available
He will come
He is a winner
He has never been anything but a winner
He has zero NCAA baggage
Has won everywhere he has ever been
He only played Tennessee once and literally destroyed us.

"Mike has been holding for a while.... Mike do you have a guess?"
 
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Blledingtangerine said:
None of them are proven as head coaches in the SEC.

There is only one coach who can and will come that has proven SEC head coaching experience.

He is young
He is available
He will come
He is a winner
He has never been anything but a winner
He has zero NCAA baggage
Has won everywhere he has ever been
He only played Tennessee once and literally destroyed us.

"Mike has been holding for a while.... Mike do you have a guess?"
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Ill bite, is he a current SEC head coach?
 
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74% Collegiate Winning Percentage
2 conference Championships
While in his 4 years in the SEC , his teams finished the season in the top 10 once and top 5 once.
 
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Blledingtangerine said:
74% Collegiate Winning Percentage
2 conference Championships
While in his 4 years in the SEC , his teams finished the season in the top 10 once and top 5 once.
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I did hear this about Petrino but let me first say Im not claiming this to be fact or trying to start another rumor.

My boss is an AL fan but he knows some of the WalMart people from Fayetteville. Some of them are actually talking about the possibility of bringing Petrino back to Ark. I dont see any way that would happen but thats what he was told.
 
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Have you seen what has happened without him?

2010 - 10 wins
2011 - 11 wins
2012 - probably 4 possibly 5 wins

And he does it with average talent
 
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Blledingtangerine said:
None of them are proven as head coaches in the SEC.

There is only one coach who can and will come that has proven SEC head coaching experience.

He is young
He is available
He will come
He is a winner
He has never been anything but a winner
He has zero NCAA baggage
Has won everywhere he has ever been
He only played Tennessee once and literally destroyed us.

"Mike has been holding for a while.... Mike do you have a guess?"
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Petrino isn't young. He's also a lousy recruiter. And he's a regular Saban whipping boy. The negative publicity would be monstrous and we'd still never win the conference. He'd leave us in horrible shape and can only be considered as evidence our boosters didn't want to spend real money and just wanted a bargain (again).

And he's left a s^%$storm everywhere he's been. No thanks. Now stop hijacking my thread. Start your own.
 
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oregonvol said:
Petrino isn't young. He's also a lousy recruiter. And he's a regular Saban whipping boy. The negative publicity would be monstrous and we'd still never win the conference. He'd leave us in horrible shape and can only be considered as evidence our boosters didn't want to spend real money and just wanted a bargain (again).

And he's left a s^%$storm everywhere he's been. No thanks. Now stop hijacking my thread. Start your own.
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He is 51 that is not old for a seasoned head coach

As for recruiting, look at what he does with mostly 2 and 3 stars.

"He would leave us in horrible shape" ? Tell me how you know this. The only result of him leaving Arky is that they now suck.

Remember, no NCAA trouble. Ever.

Guys like you need to quit before someone starts believing your mistruths. He has never left a school in NCAA trouble as is usually the case when a coach leaves a sh&% storm behind.

The only thing it would prove has nothing to do with money.

Petrino is a better coach than Gruden and most any other name that doesnt start with Saban or Meyer.

It would prove that the powers that be are ready to be serious about returning to the top.
 
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oregonvol said:
Petrino isn't young. He's also a lousy recruiter. And he's a regular Saban whipping boy. The negative publicity would be monstrous and we'd still never win the conference. He'd leave us in horrible shape and can only be considered as evidence our boosters didn't want to spend real money and just wanted a bargain (again).

And he's left a s^%$storm everywhere he's been. No thanks. Now stop hijacking my thread. Start your own.
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Another thing..

Saban Whipping boy ? Again, your spin sux.

But I will give you this, while eveyone else always beats up on Saban, Petrino has never beat him. Guess that supports your claim that he sucks.

You got me there. :good!:
 
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I feel like the OP stole my earlier post, but ok, I agree with adding Mullen to my list.

1a Gruden 1b another NFL coach

Charlie Strong. Defense wins championships.

Dan Mullen.

Malzahn. I am concerned that his Head Coaching experience is light. And I prefer someone with more defense experience/focus. His resume' is great though.

I have always been VERY impressed with Petrino's record, but that is absolutely a trainwreck waiting to happen at this point. I still say that is 3 times the gamble that Kiffin was. That is also not something that I could support or be proud of. No way, I say!
 
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Blledingtangerine said:
He is 51 that is not old for a seasoned head coach

As for recruiting, look at what he does with mostly 2 and 3 stars.

"He would leave us in horrible shape" ? Tell me how you know this. The only result of him leaving Arky is that they now suck.

Remember, no NCAA trouble. Ever.

Guys like you need to quit before someone starts believing your mistruths. He has never left a school in NCAA trouble as is usually the case when a coach leaves a sh&% storm behind.

The only thing it would prove has nothing to do with money.

Petrino is a better coach than Gruden and most any other name that doesnt start with Saban or Meyer.

It would prove that the powers that be are ready to be serious about returning to the top.
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If he's so much better than Gruden, then why isn't he making millions in the NFL right now?

What does he do with 2 stars and 3 stars? Enough to finish 3rd in his division each year? Color me impressed.

We need someone who can actually bring in talent. Petrino won't and when he leaves/is fired (which seems inevitable given his history), we're left with a team devoid of talent...again.

Petrino is a gamble. He's lied everywhere he's been. He hasn't been loyal to anyone. If I'm going to take a gamble, I don't want someone who, no matter what, is still guaranteed to get blown out by Saban every year, anyway.
 
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You understand that over the last two seasons that finishing third in the west still meant being a top 10 or even a top 5 team?

third in the west would have been 1st in the east.

as for millions he was the 7th highest paid coach at Arky and helped turn them into the nation 8th most valuable football program.

University of Arkansas Razorbacks - Chris Smith Nothing But Net - Forbes

hell be making millions again by the end of december
 
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