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#26
#26
Originally Posted by #1DicksonVolFan
This is about winning in today's SEC. While the General was a great coach in his day, he would be like a fish out of water trying to coach that team against the likes of Saban, Spurrier, etc. I'm not just targeting Neyland, the same is true for people like Bobby Dodd and even Bear Bryant. The same thing goes for athletes. Doug Atkins would not be a good DE today, nor would Johnny Majors be able to outrun anyone. That doesn't take away from what they accomplished in their time, it's just a testimate to how football, like all other aspects of society, has experienced exponential evolution in an unprecendent amount of time during the course of the 20th century.

So with this thought process Albert Einstein would be working the drive thru at McDonalds.

If the General could adjust from being a commander in World War I to being a commander in World War II I believe he could handle the game of football.
 
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#28
#28
Pacer92 said:
Defense:

DE-Doug Atkins, Leonard Little
DT-Reggie White, Albert Haynesworth
DT-John Henderson, Rashad Moore
DE-Sean Ellis, Chuck Smith
LB-Raynoch Thompson, Hacksaw Reynolds
LB-Al Wilson, Alvin Toles
LB-Jerod Mayo, Steve Kiner
CB-Jabari Greer, Terry Fair
CB-Roland James, Terry McDaniel
SS-Eric Berry, Gibril Wilson
FS-Deon Grant, Dale Carter

Offense:

TE-Jason Witten, Bill Anderson
OT-Antone Davis, Charles McRae
OT-Bruce Wilkerson, Bernard Dafney
OG-Fred Weary, Aaron Sears
OG-Cosey Coleman, Tom Myslinski
C-Bob Johnson, Scott Wells
WR-Carl Pickens, Marcus Nash
WR-Alvin Harper, Tim McGee
WR-Peerless Price, Stanley Morgan
FB-Shawn Bryson, Greg Amsler
TB-Chuck Webb, Travis Henry, Jamal Lewis
QB-Peyton Manning, Tee Martin, Casey Clausen

Special teams:

P-Craig Colquitt, Dustin Colquitt
K-Fuad Reveiz, Jeff Hall
KR- Cordarelle Patterson, Willie Gault
PR-Cordarelle Patterson, Bobby Majors
ST-Bill Bates
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Solid. Surely, there is somebody on the 2 deep at DT that could replace rashad moore. Like tony McDaniel..JK!
 
#37
#37
GOATeric14berry said:
Bray was a amazing qb
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Bray was talented, yes, with lots of receiving talent around him. However, when I judge a QB I look at other things besides arm strength. I look at mobility, W's/L's, Intelligence, attitude and leadership abilities. Arm strength wise and long TD passes, yeah, he's one of the best, but lacked in these other categories to be a complete QB in my opinion.

He was good but not in top 3 to ever don the orange, jmo.
 
#38
#38
#1DicksonVolFan said:
This is about winning in today's SEC. While the General was a great coach in his day, he would be like a fish out of water trying to coach that team against the likes of Saban, Spurrier, etc. I'm not just targeting Neyland, the same is true for people like Bobby Dodd and even Bear Bryant. The same thing goes for athletes. Doug Atkins would not be a good DE today, nor would Johnny Majors be able to outrun anyone. That doesn't take away from what they accomplished in their time, it's just a testimate to how football, like all other aspects of society, has experienced exponential evolution in an unprecendent amount of time during the course of the 20th century.
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You've put together an excellent roster for the last thirty years. Before you go characterizing the General "as a fish out of water" vis-a-vis contemporary coaches, you really should listen to the opinion of the host of contemporary observers (opposing coaches, Neyland players and media representatives of that era) who comment on Neyland in this documentary: General Robert Neyland "The Man and the Legend" - YouTube. Wallace Wade, who first put Alabama on the college football map, was asked how point-blank he would fare in today's game. He said (around the 17:25 mark), "he'd win. [Why?] . . . because he's that kind of man. He'd have his team well drilled. In the first place, he'd do a good recruiting job. He'd have his players well drilled, adapted to the game of football as it is played today. He'd win today just like he always did."

A matchup of Neyland vs. Saban would be an extraordinary defensive clinic.
 
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#39
#39
#1DicksonVolFan said:
QB- Peyton Manning, Heath Shuler, Tyler Bray

FB- Shawn Bryson, Will Bartholomew

RB- Jamal Lewis, Travis Henry, Montario Hardesty

WR- Carl Pickens, Da'rick Rogers, Peerless Price, Donte' Stallworth, Robert Meachem, Denarius Moore

TE- Jason Witten, Luke Stocker, Brad Cottam

OT- Chad Clifton, Antone Davis, Tiny Richardson, Chris Scott

OG- Arron Sears, Fred Weary, Cosey Coleman, Jacques McClendon

C- Scott Wells, Spencer Riley

Defense:

DT- Albert Haynesworth, John Henderson, Dan Williams, Justin Harrell

DE- Reggie White, Shaun Ellis, Turk Mcbride, Robert Ayers

LB- Al Wilson, Leonard Little, Jerod Mayo, Parys Haralson, Omar Gaither, Kevin Burnett, Rico McCoy

CB- Terry McDaniel, Dale Carter, Jason Allen, Jabari Greer, Dwayne Goodrich, Dennis Rogan

S- Eric Berry, Deon Grant, Jonathan Hefney, Gibril Wilson

K- Jeff Hall, James Wilhoit

P- Dustin Colquitt, Jimmy Colquitt

LS- Morgan Cox

PR/KR- Cordarrelle Patterson, Wille Gault

Coaching Staff:

Head Coach- Philip Fulmer

OC- Jon Gruden ( was a GA here so he's eligible)

DC- John Chavis

QB- David Cutcliffe

WR- Trooper Taylor

TE- Lane Kiffen

RB- Jay Graham

O-line: Sam Pittman

LB- Monte Kiffin

D-line: Ed Orgeron

Secondary: Terry Joseph

Special Teams: Darin Hinshaw
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no way he is ahead of clausen ,ainge, kelly, condridge
 
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#41
#41
I'm not too anti Bray. Imagine if bray had the running backs and defense that provided some help for peyton and heath. The SEC seems a little more competitive now , but Bray probably would have been able to play with the lead more. the kickers that provided pts for peyton and heath's team were outstanding
 
#42
#42
As for Doug Atkins, the man was "the only Tennessee player to ever be voted into both the College Football Hall of Fame (inducted 1985) and the Professional Football Hall of Fame (inducted 1982)" (UTSPORTS.COM - University of Tennessee Athletics - Football). He was also "the only unanimous selection to the SEC All Quarter-Century team and was selected as the overall SEC "Player of the Quarter-Century" for the years 1950-1975 (Doug Atkins - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia). If you take the physique and God-given genetics of Doug Atkins and provided him with today's strength-training, nutrition and supplementation protocols, he MOST CERTAINLY WOULD DOMINATE THE COMPETITION. Under those circumstances, he would probably be 6-8, 350 lbs. The only question, given his height, would be whether you play him at defensive end or, with his enormous strength, move him inside to tackle.
 
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#46
I agree with the idea of placing Fulmer at offensive line coach; he was superb in that capacity. Gruden's 1-2 years service as a graduate assistant does not qualify him, based on contributions to UT's program, as offensive coordinator on an all-time roster of this type. I do not believe anyone has mentioned this but one change that absolutely must be made is at wide receivers coach: bump Trooper Taylor and replace him with Kippy Brown. For those of you too young to remember his contributions to our program during the Majors era, Kippy "helped Tennessee acquire the nickname "Wide Receiver U" by coaching numerous pass catchers to greatness, including Anthony Miller, Tim McGee, Alvin Harper and Carl Pickens" (Player Bio: Kippy Brown - UTSPORTS.COM - University of Tennessee Athletics).
 
#48
#48
#1DicksonVolFan said:
QB- Peyton Manning, Heath Shuler, Tyler Bray

FB- Shawn Bryson, Will Bartholomew

RB- Jamal Lewis, Travis Henry, Montario Hardesty

WR- Carl Pickens, Da'rick Rogers, Peerless Price, Donte' Stallworth, Robert Meachem, Denarius Moore

TE- Jason Witten, Luke Stocker, Brad Cottam

OT- Chad Clifton, Antone Davis, Tiny Richardson, Chris Scott

OG- Arron Sears, Fred Weary, Cosey Coleman, Jacques McClendon

C- Scott Wells, Spencer Riley

Defense:

DT- Albert Haynesworth, John Henderson, Dan Williams, Justin Harrell

DE- Reggie White, Shaun Ellis, Turk Mcbride, Robert Ayers

LB- Al Wilson, Leonard Little, Jerod Mayo, Parys Haralson, Omar Gaither, Kevin Burnett, Rico McCoy

CB- Terry McDaniel, Dale Carter, Jason Allen, Jabari Greer, Dwayne Goodrich, Dennis Rogan

S- Eric Berry, Deon Grant, Jonathan Hefney, Gibril Wilson

K- Jeff Hall, James Wilhoit

P- Dustin Colquitt, Jimmy Colquitt

LS- Morgan Cox

PR/KR- Cordarrelle Patterson, Wille Gault

Coaching Staff:

Head Coach- Philip Fulmer

OC- Jon Gruden ( was a GA here so he's eligible)

DC- John Chavis

QB- David Cutcliffe

WR- Trooper Taylor

TE- Lane Kiffen

RB- Jay Graham

O-line: Sam Pittman

LB- Monte Kiffin

D-line: Ed Orgeron

Secondary: Terry Joseph

Special Teams: Darin Hinshaw
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LB- Dale Jones? Keith DeLong? Andy Spiva?
 
#49
#49
With respect to special teams, George Cafego was, quite simply, one of the greatest kicking coaches of all time. As a tailback on the 1938 and 1939 teams, Cafego finished 7th and 4th, respectively, in Heisman balloting during those two years. As a coach, Cafego "served as an assistant coach on Tennessee's staff from 1955-85 under five different head coaches" (Player Bio: George Cafego - UTSPORTS.COM - University of Tennessee Athletics). Under his tutelage, the following punters and place-kickers achieved All-American status: Ron Widby, punter (1966) http://www.utsports.com/sports/m-footbl/fballamerica/widby.htm; Ricky Townsend, place-kicker (1972, 1973) http://www.utsports.com/sports/m-footbl/fballamerica/townsend.htm; and Jimmy Colquitt, punter (1982, 1983) UTSPORTS.COM - University of Tennessee Athletics - Football.

Quite frankly, Fuad Reveiz also should have made it as the place-kicker on the 1982 squad when you consider the following data: Fuad kicked 27-31 FGs, made 20 PATs and scored 101 pts. in an 11-game regular season. Furthermore, he made a 60-yd. FG against Georgia Tech, which remains the longest three-pointer in Tennessee history. He also converted a 55-yd. FG vs. Kentucky, which is tied for 3rd longest in school history. Other 50+ yd. FGs that he nailed included 54 (Memphis State) and 52-yd. efforts (against LSU, Mississippi, and Memphis State, respectively). See p. 25(344) of 2012 Tennessee Football Record Book: Records.

Fuad also made a remarkable 8 out of 10 FG attempts of 50 yds. or more in length that season, which remains an NCAA record (see p. 12 of http://fs.ncaa.org/Docs/stats/football_records/2012/fbs.pdf), as is his 80% pct. conversion rate on FGs from that distance for a single-season. Based on that kind of track record, selecting Cafego as special-teams coach would, in my opinion, fall under the proverbial "nobrainer" category.
 
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Volosaurus rex said:
With respect to special teams, George Cafego was, quite simply, one of the greatest kicking coaches of all time. As a tailback on the 1938 and 1939 teams, Cafego finished 7th and 4th, respectively, in Heisman balloting during those two years. As a coach, Cafego "served as an assistant coach on Tennessee's staff from 1955-85 under five different head coaches" (Player Bio: George Cafego - UTSPORTS.COM - University of Tennessee Athletics). Under his tutelage, the following punters and place-kickers achieved All-American status: Ron Widby, punter (1966) http://www.utsports.com/sports/m-footbl/fballamerica/widby.htm; Ricky Townsend, place-kicker (1972, 1973) http://www.utsports.com/sports/m-footbl/fballamerica/townsend.htm; and Jimmy Colquitt, punter (1982, 1983) UTSPORTS.COM - University of Tennessee Athletics - Football.

Quite frankly, Fuad Reveiz also should have made it as the place-kicker on the 1982 squad when you consider the following data: Fuad kicked 27-31 FGs, made 20 PATs and scored 101 pts. in an 11-game regular season. Furthermore, he made a 60-yd. FG against Georgia Tech, which remains the longest three-pointer in Tennessee history. He also converted a 55-yd. FG vs. Kentucky, which is tied for 3rd longest in school history. Other 50+ yd. FGs that he nailed included 54 (Memphis State) and 52-yd. efforts (against LSU, Mississippi, and Memphis State, respectively). See p. 25(344) of 2012 Tennessee Football Record Book: Records.

Fuad also made a remarkable 8 out of 10 FG attempts of 50 yds. or more in length that season, which remains an NCAA record (see p. 12 of http://fs.ncaa.org/Docs/stats/football_records/2012/fbs.pdf), as is his 80% pct. conversion rate on FGs from that distance for a single-season. Based on that kind of track record, selecting Cafego as special-teams coach would, in my opinion, fall under the proverbial "nobrainer" category.
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Don't get me wrong, I would take a kicker like Fuad Reveiz in a heartbeat given our current situation;however, people often fail to realize that college football goal posts used to be as wide as a bamer's waistline.
 
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