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Stewart had a cannon, Manning looked a bit like a wet noodle his Fr year, kind of physically weak compared to Stewart and the others. By his So season Peyton's arm strength had developed, never a cannon but always enough.
I would not say the majority but it was a bunch. Fulmer did a good job back then of it never becoming a big deal, it was clear anyway once he started talking about Manning's time spent in the film room.Majority of Vol fans wanted Brandon Stewart over Peyton Manning in the middle of their freshmen year.
That alone should disqualify Vol fans from bitchin about QBs.
My comprehension is fine. Your infatuation is another story.Your reading comprehension sucks, I said that we played good enough to win for 58 minutes, we didn't finish. I said both JG and the one bad play were the major reasons we lost that game, thus not all JG, can you really not understand that?
I remember people wearing "Team Ainge" and "Team Clausen" shirts. Ainge struggled, but was far and away more athletically gifted. Rick would come in and make a play every now and again, but not a lot of arm talent.I might be misreading the question a bit then. I feel like there was a lot of arguments about him and his impact on the program -- and I mean that in several ways, particularly with the "how much was he contributing to the wins" argument, and also the friction between him and the staff and Fulmer in particular. I don't recall there being many alternatives either but I feel like he was polarizing. But again, I might be misreading it a bit.
This isn’t an “opinions on JG” thread, but I was just thinking back on all of the controversial, fan-dividing QB’s over the years. Have any one of them ever caused this much debating/arguing?
Crompton comes to mind. Casey Clausen maybe? Ainge? Inconsistency seems to be the key to sparking debates and JG is rolling in it.
Stewart had a cannon, Manning looked a bit like a wet noodle his Fr year, kind of physically weak compared to Stewart and the others. By his So season Peyton's arm strength had developed, never a cannon but always enough.
Hear me out. I think JG has the tools to be a successful quarterback but his ego got in the way. Going into last season he felt he needed to make up for any deficiencies with the receiving corps and did to much. He threw late because he didn't trust them and threw into coverage because he felt "he" had to win the game not the team.
You saw it at Alabama with the audible/fumble but at the end of the year he played within the system and did what was asked and found success. I think this year he comes in and follows the system rather than try to be the savior and we are all pleasantly surprised.
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Hear me out. I think JG has the tools to be a successful quarterback but his ego got in the way. Going into last season he felt he needed to make up for any deficiencies with the receiving corps and did to much. He threw late because he didn't trust them and threw into coverage because he felt "he" had to win the game not the team.
You saw it at Alabama with the audible/fumble but at the end of the year he played within the system and did what was asked and found success. I think this year he comes in and follows the system rather than try to be the savior and we are all pleasantly surprised.
Flame away
Well thought out post.Ego may have a little bit to do with it, but I think the fact that the past 4 years he has had 4 different OCs, 4 different QB coaches, and two substantially different offenses (under Pruitt vs Jones) to deal with has to mess with a kids mind. Even though eighteen and over is often considered an adult, in reality these are still kids. Past years O-lines didn't protect him very well either, as he took a lot of major hits and often did not have a lot of time to make a play..
As far as the Alabama play, I think the ball was on the half yard line, and he thought he could just reach out 2 feet to get the score, but he didn't think it through and realize he was behind center which actually put him about 2 yards from the goal line when he got the ball, to far to just stretch it across the goal. I doubt you will see him do something that dumb again.
While I don't expect him to be a great QB, I do think he will be improved after a second year with Cheney, and the O-line should be able to give him a lot better protection this year. I don't see anyone else starting at the beginning of the year (barring injury or external issue), but if he hasn't improved after 2 or 3 starts, it will probably be time to look elsewhere. GBO.
Crompton was good after the light bulb came on. That’s what is so frustrating about jg, he will play lights out one game, then just lose it for three or four weeks. I thought after the Missouri game things had clicked for him, turns out they didn’t.Somewhat comparable, but I don't think any QB with physical talent can rival the issues Crompton had all the way through about the first month of his Senior year. Crompton played every snap like he was having an anxiety attack.
Nobody ever mentions how bad and inexperienced his 1st 2 OCs were either. Good take.Ego may have a little bit to do with it, but I think the fact that the past 4 years he has had 4 different OCs, 4 different QB coaches, and two substantially different offenses (under Pruitt vs Jones) to deal with has to mess with a kids mind. Even though eighteen and over is often considered an adult, in reality these are still kids. Past years O-lines didn't protect him very well either, as he took a lot of major hits and often did not have a lot of time to make a play..
As far as the Alabama play, I think the ball was on the half yard line, and he thought he could just reach out 2 feet to get the score, but he didn't think it through and realize he was behind center which actually put him about 2 yards from the goal line when he got the ball, to far to just stretch it across the goal. I doubt you will see him do something that dumb again.
While I don't expect him to be a great QB, I do think he will be improved after a second year with Cheney, and the O-line should be able to give him a lot better protection this year. I don't see anyone else starting at the beginning of the year (barring injury or external issue), but if he hasn't improved after 2 or 3 starts, it will probably be time to look elsewhere. GBO.