Has there been a Toss sweep this season with Dylan?

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Carlitovol said:
I'd still like to see a reverse jet to Bru and let him get up a full head of steam. Just sayin.

Seriously, I think with some horizontal misdirection sprinkled in, those stats would be even better. And it's probably more optics than anything else - i.e. "wait, we're running it straight up the middle again"?
But I totally get that there are various nuances to blocking schemes etc. and it's not nearly that simple. (believe me I am not an X/Os guru).

I also think some of it has to do w/ offensive philosophy of the super wide splits and trying to stretch the D across the field. The whole point of extending the defense and making them commit numbers in certain areas of the field is that you want to exploit vulnerability.. In that line of thinking, if you have a light box due to more defenders being committed toward the sideline, why would you run outside right into the teeth of that formation? Of course if you have the right numbers in the box, you want to run straight up the middle into that space and get N/S asap.
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I was at a UT game and one of the fans kept saying (yelling) run a jet sweep or a reverse its golden. Then we did and lost 11 yards. Then it got quiet and someone said what was our genius OC thinking.
 
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wtmvol said:
I'm certainly no expert, but when our offensive sets are designed around wide splits, wouldn't runs to the outside just run us right to where the defenders are? We don't necessarily need to be creative in the run plays when the scheme itself is already creative. IMO, the proof is in the pudding. We led all power conference teams in rushing yds/game this year and we were #3 last year. We've averaged over 5.0ypc for 3 straight years.
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to run sweeps is pretty counter intuitive to our scheme. we have wide splits, which spreads the entire defense. Most the time you're going to see 5-6 in the "box" vs our standard wide split alignments. A sweep just allows the spread outside linebackers and nickel to have better chance at making a play on the ball carrier, and those guys are better athletes than the linemen that were running inside zone, iso, trap, and counter on. So as someone else said, that's why we implement WR screens of different types to our offense, it's superior to the sweep with our alignments. WR screens are considered an extension to the run game in the air raid offense, obviously we're not air raid, but Heupel coming from an air raid system himself as a player, it makes sense that these are his go to for outside "run plays".
 
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Orange defense said:
I haven’t seen one, but if you have? What game was it in? Can we add it to the offense if we haven’t done it yet? How effective would it be?
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It'll be a little cool Saturday night to be tossing the ball around too much without much practice, IMO.

Perhaps we've been practicing these "option" style tosses which are great plays but I've not seen many this year.
 
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temptn said:
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Josh has been saving for this moment all year, he has them right where he wants them.
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It’s amazing how every UT coach has always saved the playbook. Usually it’s Florida, then the Florida game comes and we run the same stuff. But to know this is actually the moment that the whole playbook will be opened after generations of keeping the cards close to the vest, this is exciting.
 
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deatojl said:



Just out of curiosity, does this count as an outside run or is it up the middle?
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It's called a buck sweep. This play is totally up to the RB and defensive alignment. He has a lead blocker to the outside and 2 pullers climbing. Sampson has to read the blocks and make the correct cut. The fact that he scored showed Sampson has elite vision. If he takes it outside it's a good chance he doesn't score.
 
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The Vols have nothing to lose as the underdog in this game and the opposing coach's job is at stake. Come out loose and open up the playbook and have fun. Don't punt unless its 4th and more than 2. Grab a lead and let the defense win the game. Be his worst nightmare.
 
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Not too much variety all year. I think the shuffle pass was the most expansive play and it worked for a couple plays. Defenses catch on after a few tries.
 
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KTrain said:
I was at a UT game and one of the fans kept saying (yelling) run a jet sweep or a reverse its golden. Then we did and lost 11 yards. Then it got quiet and someone said what was our genius OC thinking.
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If you know just a little about football, it’s pure entertainment to go to a game and listen to conversations
 
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Sometimes I wonder if Sampson breaks 80 yarder on an up the middle run. Some would come on here yeah, we scored but it was just an up the middle handoff no creativity.
 
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1734657648271.pngThose of us of a certain age remember when this power sweep was unstoppable. Five championships.

Another thing those of us of a certain age need to remember...
this isn't a painting. It's a video. That's actual speed.

When we get a running back who can run laterally to the sideline faster than our QB can throw it to the sideline, then we can start talking toss sweep plays.
 
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KTrain said:
I was at a UT game and one of the fans kept saying (yelling) run a jet sweep or a reverse its golden. Then we did and lost 11 yards. Then it got quiet and someone said what was our genius OC thinking.
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the thing about running a variety or different play, even though they may fail, it keeps the defenses guessing and allows other plays to work because they don't know we're giving the ball to Sampson up the middle every play.
 
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They ran a pin and pull against Bama, I just can’t remember if it was a toss or a sweep by Nico
 
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You don’t really “toss sweep” out of shotgun. But we do run an outside zone play and other outside pass plays to a RB or WR that have a similar concept.
 
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It’s rare to see anyone run a toss sweep with the qb in shotgun formation. Safer to have the runner cross in front of the qb so a toss is actually a forward pass. If”fumbled” it’s just incomplete pass, same as Idaho pass.
 
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