Haven't fed the post in a decade.

#26
#26
therealUT said:
He left him enough talent to easily dismiss AP and ETSU.
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That's just flat out not true. He has a team of head cases (Hall), people playing out of position (Woolridge, Golden), undisciplined shooters (McRae, Golden, and Woolridge) and guys forced to play way before they are ready (Mcrae, Golden, Washpun, Yemi, Richardson and Washpun). Miller is basically a role player, McBee is a glue guy that can knock down 3's. Tatum is "solid" at best, with rare flashes of what he could been if he could maintain focus.

Maymon is the only real top flight guy on this team that is ready to step up and play, and he is undersized and has a couple moments every game where his concentration drops off.

Continuing to say otherwise is just being stubborn.
 
#27
#27
therealUT said:
His record at Missouri State does not impress me; he took over a program in which Hinson had the same amount of success and did the same things, once one accounts for respective SOS between Hinson's teams and Martins.

Buzz Peterson was not 'run out of' many games prior to conference play in his first season; in fact, IIRC, he pulled some pretty good upsets.

Edit: the big upsets were after conference play had started (Syracuse). Anyway, point remains that Buzz was not run out of any gyms his first year. He had a better resume than Martin did prior to coming to UT, as well.
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#28
#28
therealUT said:
His record at Missouri State does not impress me; he took over a program in which Hinson had the same amount of success and did the same things, once one accounts for respective SOS between Hinson's teams and Martins.

Buzz Peterson was not 'run out of' many games prior to conference play in his first season; in fact, IIRC, he pulled some pretty good upsets.

Edit: the big upsets were after conference play had started (Syracuse). Anyway, point remains that Buzz was not run out of any gyms his first year. He had a better resume than Martin did prior to coming to UT, as well.
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Martin won 26 games last year playing basically the same type of teams that UT is struggling with now. The difference is the rosters he is coaching. The man went through the MVC going 15-3 with a mid-major roster, but now suddenly when he struggles with teams that are worse than MVC teams with what is supposed to be BCS level talent, he is the trouble.
 
#29
#29
zansdad said:
Martin won 26 games last year playing basically the same type of teams that UT is struggling with now. The difference is the rosters he is coaching. The man went through the MVC going 15-3 with a mid-major roster, but now suddenly when he struggles with teams that are worse than MVC teams with what is supposed to be BCS level talent, he is the trouble.
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Buzz won 26 games and won the NIT at Tulsa; he won 21, 21, and 23 at Appalachian State and made it to the NCAA Tournament; he could not coach for **** at UT because he would never adapt his system to the players at UT and he could not get those players to buy into his system.

People defended him in the same manner because he had had previous success, he was left without the most talented squad, and he was 'a man of character'.
 
#30
#30
therealUT said:
His record at Missouri State does not impress me; he took over a program in which Hinson had the same amount of success and did the same things, once one accounts for respective SOS between Hinson's teams and Martins.
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Yep Hinson took over a team that had just made a Sweet 16 run, never made it back to the NCAA tourney and 9 years later finished 17-16 and 8-10 in conference.

Martin took over that team struggled his first year and 3 years later finished 26-9, 15-3 in conference and barely missed going to the NCAA tourney.

I can see how those two coaching stints are similar. :good!:

I think maybe I should have just taken Pl3's advice and ignored you.
 
#31
#31
zansdad said:
Yep Hinson took over a team that had just made a Sweet 16 run, never made it back to the NCAA tourney and 9 years later finished 17-16 and 8-10 in conference.

Martin took over that team struggled his first year and 3 years later finished 26-9, 15-3 in conference and barely missed going to the NCAA tourney.

I can see how those two coaching stints are similar. :good!:

I think maybe I should have just taken Pl3's advice and ignored you.
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Bingo on ignoring him. He can't state his opinion in anyway that has any validity. He is just an unhappy person! I hope he can find joy in this Holiday Season!
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#32
#32
therealUT said:
Buzz won 26 games and won the NIT at Tulsa; he won 21, 21, and 23 at Appalachian State and made it to the NCAA Tournament; he could not coach for **** at UT because he would never adapt his system to the players at UT and he could not get those players to buy into his system.

People defended him in the same manner because he had had previous success, he was left without the most talented squad, and he was 'a man of character'.
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Well Martin is only what, 11 games into his UT career? Probably will take a few more than that for his system to take full effect.
 
#33
#33
therealUT said:
Buzz won 26 games and won the NIT at Tulsa; he won 21, 21, and 23 at Appalachian State and made it to the NCAA Tournament; he could not coach for **** at UT because he would never adapt his system to the players at UT and he could not get those players to buy into his system.

People defended him in the same manner because he had had previous success, he was left without the most talented squad, and he was 'a man of character'.
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Tulsa advanced to the Elite Eight in the 2000 NCAA tournament as a #7 seed.[14] Self departed for Illinois and was succeeded by Buzz Peterson. Peterson led the team to the 2001 NIT Championship and promptly took the head coaching position at the University of Tennessee.
A simple wikipedia search shows that Buzz was riding a wave of success. Martin built his own team at Missouri State. completely different resumes.
 
#35
#35
zansdad said:
Tulsa advanced to the Elite Eight in the 2000 NCAA tournament as a #7 seed.[14] Self departed for Illinois and was succeeded by Buzz Peterson. Peterson led the team to the 2001 NIT Championship and promptly took the head coaching position at the University of Tennessee.
A simple wikipedia search shows that Buzz was riding a wave of success. Martin built his own team at Missouri State. completely different resumes.
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Your making a great argument but even if the resumes were the same it doesn't prove anything. He doesn't have any real reason CM won't succeed. He won't give you one except he has lost games I am certain!
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#36
#36
UT drinks his scotch then comes on here and makes himself look like an idiot with his I'm right you're wrong crap. Ignore this child
 
#39
#39
zansdad said:
Look at his record at Missouri State and you will have all the proof you need. Martin stepped up from a mid-major school to a BCS school, but wasn't given a BCS roster to coach. The fact that they haven't been ran out of any games yet considering who they have played tells me all I need to know about his coaching.
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Apparently you believe he has the talent on the team then.
 
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#41
DERELICK_MY_VOLS said:
My mama said my mama said that we don't feed the post because the post is THE DEVIL!

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It's obviously late because this made me :lolabove:

I'll probably regret it in the morning though...
 
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