healthcare bill to require calorie counts on all menus countrywide

[utvolpj]

well, I just fatassed down 500 calories worth of Mc Donald's fries. Thanks for the insurance, fellas.
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no prob, have a stent on me :hi:

 

[lumberjack4]

I guess having a calorie sheet on hand at request wasn't good enough.
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[gsvol]

Here is an oldie but goodie on the topic.

The strategy behind this “addiction” claim is to absolve individuals of responsibility for overeating and assign it instead to food manufacturers and restaurants for making food that’s, well, irresistible.

And given the deeper-pockets of companies relative to most individuals, it’s no surprise to see that this strategy has drawn the interest of trial lawyers everywhere like John “Sue the Bastards” Banzhaf.

Banzhaf has gone so far as to call personal responsibility “crap” and has been a driving force behind obesity lawsuits using this bogus theory.

The trial lawyers are also opportunistically joined by animal rights activists, including the preposterously named “Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine" and its wacky president, Neal Barnard. PCRM backed lawsuits against meat producers and retailers as far back as 1999, and later applauded litigation that “holds four fast-food chains responsible for an obese man's health problems.”

Barnard also appeared in Morgan Spurlock’s ridiculous film “Super Size Me” to shill the idea that food is addictive. Apparently, Barnard isn’t just using hyperbole when he calls cheese “dairy crack.”

Bankrupting establishments that serve animal products is one way that vegan activists can push their save-the-chickens agenda.
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The people in this ruling regime in Washington would have the people believe they have some sort of vision for the America.

What they have is a bad case of recurring halucinations and it is going to be an increasing nightmare for people who actually have rational, functional brains.

 

[Cartervol]

Nah they're not going to issue calculators. They'll just take over the fast food chains now and start handing out military rations. Oh, they'll take over the supermarkets too and mandate food packets for everyone. Change and hope, here is your rations.

 

[CountVolcula]

Eat Soylent Green!!

 

[lumberjack4]

There is now a movement to ban happy meal toys from unhealthy meals.

Supe wants Santa Clara County to ban toy prizes with meals - Silicon Valley / San Jose Business Journal:

Thanks government for looking out for me.

 

[volfanjustin]

Just to be clear, is the problem here that the governemnt is doing something we should do, the conomics, what?

Personally, I don't see a problem with people actually knowing how much crap they are stuffing in their mouths.

If a company wants to print calorie count on their menus fine, the gov't should not force them.

To your second point, do you think people are so dumb that if the are at a fast food place or a restaurant and order a big mac or anything else for that matter, do people not know that it is bad for them?

 

[gsvol]

If a company wants to print calorie count on their menus fine, the gov't should not force them.

To your second point, do you think people are so dumb that if the are at a fast food place or a restaurant and order a big mac or anything else for that matter, do people not know that it is bad for them?

If all this were a chess game, one must understand that one move is designed to set up another move.

One major flaw is that an establishment that sells food and displays calorie count, sodium content etc. can be sued if they serve any particular offering and that count is off.

I had to quit buying coffee from MacDonalds because some fool spilt hot coffee on herself and then won a ten million dollar suit for the coffee being too hot.

I wouldn't pay another dime for luke warm coffee.

Here is one example of how one 'problem' morphs into another area of the liberal agenda.

Blaming cows and pigs for climate change is scientifically inaccurate,

The only reason this jerk is pointing out the BS about livestock is that he thinks it is an impediment to enacting draconian measures designed to combat so-called climate change.

When the UN first made their BS propaganda report about livestock and global warming in 2006, the EPA in typical knee jerk manner proposed heavily taxing every cow in America.

We have to deal with all these 'liberal' issues one at a time but you have to keep in mind their overall agenda and that is 'control.'

Control of energy.

Control of food supply.

Control of money supply.

Control of housing.

Control of of the atmosphere.

Let's say we passed C&T to control CO2, if you take it one step further, what is to keep the individual from having to pay everytime he exhales, after all there's a good bit of CO2 produced that way. (I havn't seen the UN data on that yet, but no doubt it's coming.)

Makes me wonder would Mexico have to pay more because there are so many frijoles eaten down there and most people understand that has to produce a lot of CO2 and other polutants, isn't CO2 oderless??

 

[VolInMn]

You should probably stop using the internet completely so the government can't track what you're doing every day. There's little doubt they're archiving your blatantly anti socialist views and it's only a matter of time until you conveniently disappear.

Seriously.

 

[Gramps]

I don't see how mom and pop or other small restaurants can afford to have the calorie count of all their menu items determined (I dent read the link so I don't know if they are exempted).
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This does not apply to mom and pop or small restaurants or small chains. The law requires chain restaurants that have more than 20 locations to display calorie information next to the food item on the standard menu.

 

[OrangeEmpire]

This does not apply to mom and pop or small restaurants or small chains. The law requires chain restaurants that have more than 20 locations to display calorie information next to the food item on the standard menu.

Again, it is laughable. No one in their right mind should think that any thing on their menu is healthy.

If changes nothing, people are going to be fat lazy slobs.

:hi:

 

[shootermcgavin7]

Fat people still won't read it. Waste of time. It has been shown time and time again that more information, on its own, won't stop people in the aggregate from making stupid decisions.

 

[OrangeEmpire]

I am with Shooter........

 

[KentheOrange]

Oh boo hoo. I couldn't open the link on my phone. At least I disclosed that I hadn't read it (I'm sure a lot of people wouldn't have done the same). I figured that I had sufficient information to put forth my opinion since I've actually read (rather skimmed) the bills and completely missed this entire section. If it bothered you, then just skip my post next time.

My apologies. A statement of "I couldn't open the link" would have removed any confusion.

 

[gsvol]

You should probably stop using the internet completely so the government can't track what you're doing every day. There's little doubt they're archiving your blatantly anti socialist views and it's only a matter of time until you conveniently disappear.

Seriously.

Seriously??

This is the second time you have cast such stupidly arrived at asperisons to my character and/or mental
state.

Let me explain once again, I'll type slowly and use
small words so that maybe, just maybe you might understand.

I'm not aflicted with a condition of paranoia
compounded by a bad case of terminal
dumbassedness.

If you want an prime example of the state of mind
of which I speak, go take a gander in your bathroom
mirror.

 

[gsvol]

You should probably stop using the internet completely so the government can't track what you're doing every day. There's little doubt they're archiving your blatantly anti socialist views and it's only a matter of time until you conveniently disappear.

Seriously.

The battle, sir, is not to the strong alone; it is to
the vigilant, the active, the brave. ... t is now
too late to retire from the contest. There is no
retreat but in submission and slavery! Our chains
are forged! Their clanking may be heard on the
plains of Boston! The war is inevitable -- and let
it come! I repeat it, sir, let it come!"
--Patrick Henry

 

[VolInMn]

Ok. Assuming you really believe everything you're saying about the government taking over energy, food, money, housing, etc., what do you plan to do in the future to protect yourself? Did you just start to believe this when Obama was elected or have you believed these things for a long time?

 

[gsvol]

Ok. Assuming you really
believe everything you're saying about the government
taking over energy, food, money, housing, etc., what do
you plan to do in the future to protect yourself? Did you
just start to believe this when Obama was elected or
have you believed these things for a long time?

Not much of a student of world history are you??

"If the American people ever allow private
banks to control the issue of their money,
first by inflation and then by deflation,
the banks and corporations that will
grow up around them (around the banks),
will deprive the people of their property
until their children will wake up homeless
on the continent their fathers conquered."
Thomas Jefferson

Assuming you don't believe what I say then read
"Tragedy and Hope" by Carrol Quigley, 1966,
then get back to me and see if he doesn't spell
it out.

Don't read what is written about his book,
read the book.

BTW, Quigley was for these oligarchs, the title
of the book refers to his hope they would succede
and that it would be tragic to oppose them.

Quigley thought they should make their work public
rather than secret.

"The powers of financial capitalism had another far-
reaching aim, nothing less than to create a world
system of financial control in private hands able to
dominate the political system of each country and
the economy of the world as a whole.

This system was to be controlled in a feudalist
fashion by the central banks of the world acting
in concert, by secret agreements arrived at in
frequent meetings and conferences.

The apex of the systems was to be the Bank for
International Settlements in Basel, Switzerland, a
private bank owned and controlled by the world's
central banks which were themselves private
corporations.

Each central bank...sought to dominate its government
by its ability to control Treasury loans, to manipulate
foreign exchanges, to influence the level of economic activity in the country, and to influence cooperative politicians by subsequent economic rewards in the business world."

The people Quigley was writing about disagreed and
although the first edition quickly sold out the publisher
refused to publish a second edition and sometime during
the seventies someone did a search in every university
library in America and could only find one who listed it
and that was the Univ of Texas, although the actual
book was missing.

Of course that isn't the only book around that
would give you more insight.

My attitude didn't start with Obama but he is
certainly as much of a useful idiot as Carter and
he also has the benefit of all the Clinton retreads
that had eight years of experience in Washington
already, Obama is quite an effective useful idiot
as useful idiots go.

Clinton thanked his mentors in one inaugural address
and the only one he mentioned by name was Quigley.

You can snopes this; Obama's dad wasn't some goat
herder, he worked for the central bank of Kenya and
BTW Obama also attended Columbia although just about
all records of Obama's history have been disappeared
from birth certificate til now.

I say at least by 1968 and certainly that didn't just
come from reading Quigley.

For you to go from naieve to learnful doesn't mean
you will see things my way, Quigley was voted their
'most influential professor' on campus by the students
at Columbia University for 28 straight years.

But it would help if you weren't so naive, at least
you would make for much more interesting discussion
and cease with dishing out insults which you can't handle your own self.

Oh, and what am I doing to protect myself, I'm not
worried, my main concern is to pass on as much as
I cant to future generations so that American freedom
can endure as long as possible, one method is to try
to pry open the minds of ones such as you in order
to let a little light and fresh air in, you sure could
use it.