Heard Josh Pastner Speak Today

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He spoke to my Sports Law class. Our instructor is University Counsel for Memphis and asked him to come in and speak. I was actually very impressed with him. He seems much, much more organized that what it has seemed. He stated that 70-80% of his job was compliance. I think that speaks directly on the difficulty of being in big time college athletics.

He was asked directly on his thoughts on the Bruce Pearl situation. He praised Pearl's coaching ability and said that he felt Tennessee gained no recruiting advantage from Pearl's actions.

On NCAA Rules: he stated he felt deregulation was needed. There were too many rules, and even trying as hard as possible to be compliant, everyone was bound to fail. He said, and I think this is popular sentiment across the coaching world, that the limitations on calls, texts, emails, etc should just be eliminated.

Just thought I would share this with you guys in the downtime. Go Vols!

P.S. One interesting note: our instructor said that the she knew for a fact that the only time John Calipari added the clause that allowed players to get out of their LOI was the last year he was there. Makes it look awfully suspicious that he knew he was leaving long beforehand.
 
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LawVol13 said:
He spoke to my Sports Law class. Our instructor is University Counsel for Memphis and asked him to come in and speak. I was actually very impressed with him. He seems much, much more organized that what it has seemed. He stated that 70-80% of his job was compliance. I think that speaks directly on the difficulty of being in big time college athletics.

He was asked directly on his thoughts on the Bruce Pearl situation. He praised Pearl's coaching ability and said that he felt Tennessee gained no recruiting advantage from Pearl's actions.

On NCAA Rules: he stated he felt deregulation was needed. There were too many rules, and even trying as hard as possible to be compliant, everyone was bound to fail. He said, and I think this is popular sentiment across the coaching world, that the limitations on calls, texts, emails, etc should just be eliminated.

Just thought I would share this with you guys in the downtime. Go Vols!
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Great post! Thanks for passing that along. The only thing I would take issue with is "too many rules". It seems there aren't enough based on what all is going on all over the country. Sure, less people would get in trouble with less regulation. But is that a good thing for college sports? If you follow the theory that college players are scholar athletes in an amateur status, then less rules would be a bad idea. If you are pay for play and all that, then forget rules and let the free market decide. In that case, UT loses out. We are no longer at the top of college sports in budgets or more importantly, profits. Our rivals to the south are crushing us. They made 43 million last year. We made 4. Do you really want to go head to head with them in a free market place trying to buy players? I say regulate it and punish those that lie or break the rules. Bruce messed up. I hate it because I love that guy. Just my take.
 
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He's a great young coach and person. Memphis is very fortunate to have him. The only problem with him is that it will be hard to keep from Arizona, his alma mater, if he has success at UM.
 
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PC Jr. said:
Great post! Thanks for passing that along. The only thing I would take issue with is "too many rules". It seems there aren't enough based on what all is going on all over the country. Sure, less people would get in trouble with less regulation. But is that a good thing for college sports? If you follow the theory that college players are scholar athletes in an amateur status, then less rules would be a bad idea. If you are pay for play and all that, then forget rules and let the free market decide. In that case, UT loses out. We are no longer at the top of college sports in budgets or more importantly, profits. Our rivals to the south are crushing us. They made 43 million last year. We made 4. Do you really want to go head to head with them in a free market place trying to buy players? I say regulate it and punish those that lie or break the rules. Bruce messed up. I hate it because I love that guy. Just my take.
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I agree. Deregulation would open it up for conferences to set their own rules, which is scary. I think the rules need to be revised and just made simpler and easier for a coach to follow, and there are certain rules that need to just be eliminated completely.
 
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Thanks, i Love Tennessee but growing up in Memphis i adored Memphis Basketball.. No offense to Rocky Top Men's basketball but i am a Memphis Basketball fan at heart. When Tennessee got Pearl i knew it only only be a matter of time before Tennessee caught up in basketball and i was right in some regards. Then that slick haired bastard left and we got some young guy by the name of John Pastner. Now me being the College basketball junkie i am( not on the level of Football) i knew the guy was a good get bc he had been hand picked by Lute Olsen at Zona. Pastner is young but i know in the years to come he will make alot of Memphis Fans forget about that Jackass at Kentucky. If he keeps on getting good recruiting classes and furthers the level of play from the conference like Cal did he will have Memphis in the Final Four in the next 4 to 5 years. Thanks for the Post, plus u gotta love a Memphis coach who doesnt want to play Rocky Top so i wont have to root for a school i love!
 
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Josh is a very down to earth guy, he doesn't have that big head like some coaches have, yet anyways. I think he is a + for Memphis and for the young men he is bringing in.
 
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Let's not all get mushy and soft here because he's a "great guy". It's still Mempiss.
 
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I was in a wedding this past weekend and the groom is a huge Memphis fan. He and his family are season ticket holders in basketball and football. His dad wrote Pastner a letter and Pastner made a video for them wishing them all the best with their marriage. In all honesty, it was something my friend will never forget and an awesome thing for him to do.
 
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supersmo18 said:
Let's not all get mushy and soft here because he's a "great guy". It's still Mempiss.
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Don't forget that many a Vol fan (myself included) grew up around Memphis cheering on the Tigers in basketball. I'm VFL through an through, but I follow the Memphis bball team like a piece of my childhood.
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Being a Memphis basketball fan and Tennessee everything else fan is just too convenient.

It's kind of like how 90% of ACC football "fans" are UNC or Duke basketball fans.
 
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rockytop9808 said:
Being a Memphis basketball fan and Tennessee everything else fan is just too convenient.

It's kind of like how 90% of ACC football "fans" are UNC or Duke basketball fans.
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If you grew up in Durham but went to UVA, you are still going to be a Duke fan. I got no problem with that. Now if you grew up in Oak Ridge, I wouldn't expect you to like Memphis basketball.
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rockytop9808 said:
Being a Memphis basketball fan and Tennessee everything else fan is just too convenient.

It's kind of like how 90% of ACC football "fans" are UNC or Duke basketball fans.
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There are a TON of those "fans" in Memphis.

They wear their orange during football season and then put on blue in the winter. I don't like them to begin with, but the ones that have the audacity to trash talk UT basketball are the bell cows of the herd.
 
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rockytop9808 said:
Being a Memphis basketball fan and Tennessee everything else fan is just too convenient.

It's kind of like how 90% of ACC football "fans" are UNC or Duke basketball fans.
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WOAHHHHHH i went to a ACC school and ur DEAD Wrong.. When u have FSU, Clemson, VA TECH, my school NC STATE, and Miami (unfortunately) are GOOD Football schools.. so 90% per ACC Football "fans" are FOOTBALL Fans... and they like their respective schools in Basketball.. go to a ACC tourny and say that.. ull get the shhhhhh#t smackd out of ur mouth
 
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myrobbins7 said:
Josh is a very down to earth guy, he doesn't have that big head like some coaches have, yet anyways. I think he is a + for Memphis and for the young men he is bringing in.
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That was the impression I got as well. I was impressed by him.
 
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Memphis has so much tradition in basketball. If you grew up there watching it on the High school level you would know what I mean. UT's biggest flaw is that the Coaches have never made enroads there for recruits.

Cal left the program in bad shape, but Pastner appears to be getting it back on course. If his players buy into his scheme I think they will be successful. Last seasons beat down the Vols put on them woke them up to realize they are very young and just got outplayed by a more physical team.
 
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Pastner spoke at my sisters graduation two years ago and everyone thought he was a horrible speaker. seemed so rushed and talked like he was on speed. Could have been that he was more passionate to sports law I guess
 
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GtwnVol said:
Pastner spoke at my sisters graduation two years ago and everyone thought he was a horrible speaker. seemed so rushed and talked like he was on speed. Could have been that he was more passionate to sports law I guess
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Or it might be because he was a brand new head coach then and now he's had 2 years of interviews, press conferences, speeches, etc.
 
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LawVol13 said:
He spoke to my Sports Law class. Our instructor is University Counsel for Memphis and asked him to come in and speak. I was actually very impressed with him. He seems much, much more organized that what it has seemed. He stated that 70-80% of his job was compliance. I think that speaks directly on the difficulty of being in big time college athletics.

He was asked directly on his thoughts on the Bruce Pearl situation. He praised Pearl's coaching ability and said that he felt Tennessee gained no recruiting advantage from Pearl's actions.

On NCAA Rules: he stated he felt deregulation was needed. There were too many rules, and even trying as hard as possible to be compliant, everyone was bound to fail. He said, and I think this is popular sentiment across the coaching world, that the limitations on calls, texts, emails, etc should just be eliminated.

Just thought I would share this with you guys in the downtime. Go Vols!

P.S. One interesting note: our instructor said that the she knew for a fact that the only time John Calipari added the clause that allowed players to get out of their LOI was the last year he was there. Makes it look awfully suspicious that he knew he was leaving long beforehand.
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I've always considered Pastner to be a solid coach. Memphis could have done a lot worse when Calipari left.
 
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GoodOleRkyTop said:
WOAHHHHHH i went to a ACC school and ur DEAD Wrong.. When u have FSU, Clemson, VA TECH, my school NC STATE, and Miami (unfortunately) are GOOD Football schools.. so 90% per ACC Football "fans" are FOOTBALL Fans... and they like their respective schools in Basketball.. go to a ACC tourny and say that.. ull get the shhhhhh#t smackd out of ur mouth
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I live smack dab in the middle of ACC country, and very few UVa or Virginia Tech football fans (or students) cheer primarily for their schools in basketball. The two or three Miami fans I know probably don't even realize Miami has a basketball team.
 
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rockytop9808 said:
I live smack dab in the middle of ACC country, and very few UVa or Virginia Tech football fans (or students) cheer primarily for their schools in basketball. The two or three Miami fans I know probably don't even realize Miami has a basketball team.
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Where you live, rockytop? I'm in Charlottesville.
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Glad he's a nice guy but I still hate the crap out of him and his pathetic program. Does seem like he'd be real laid back and down to earth. The Coach Cal comment does raise an eyebrow. I bet they had him ready to sign on the line right when the season started.
 
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TennesseeFan07 said:
I've always considered Pastner to be a solid coach. Memphis could have done a lot worse when Calipari left.
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I agree they could of done worse but I'm still waiting for the solid part. All I see is plenty of talent and nothing to show for. Granted, he had a pretty young team and has plenty of time to prove himself but every game I watched Memphis play last year, he always had that 'deer in the headlights/confused' look on his face. Excellent recruiter though.
 
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Shaun1985 said:
I agree they could of done worse but I'm still waiting for the solid part. All I see is plenty of talent and nothing to show for. Granted, he had a pretty young team and has plenty of time to prove himself but every game I watched Memphis play last year, he always had that 'deer in the headlights/confused' look on his face. Excellent recruiter though.
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That's what 7 freshmen play like. Deer in the headlights. Explains our football team last year.
 
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You guys better delete this thread quick or the humps over on the football board may find out you're showing compassion to a Memphis coach.

Pastner is still an unknown commodity as a coach, for the most part, but he's a great person. My grandmother sent 5 children to Memphis State and has been a lifelong Memphis fan. When she was on her death bed, Pastner took the time to have the entire team sign some memorabilia personally for her, wishing her a quick recovery. The poster he signed for her, thanking her for being such a devoted Tiger fan, hung up in her room until she passed away. It's now hanging behind me in my office. He'll always be a favorite of mine.
 
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