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chargervol

chargervol

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After 15 yrs, time to replace our heat pump. The new ductless systems have gained my interest. I'm also still interested in the standard heat/air pump style that I have.

I would really appreciate posts from people that have the ductless and any comments on individual brands of ductless and standard .

If there happens to be a hvac expert around, that would be gold :)
 
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chargervol said:
After 15 yrs, time to replace our heat pump. The new ductless systems have gained my interest. I'm also still interested in the standard heat/air pump style that I have.

I would really appreciate posts from people that have the ductless and any comments on individual brands of ductless and standard .

If there happens to be a hvac expert around, that would be gold :)
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You live in Knoxville?
 
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chargervol said:
Dandridge 25 miles away, same climate.
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I work with a HVACR guy that takes care of the HVAC in a 240,000 sq ft building off Straw Plains exit. He won a lot of different awards while in the HVAC TCAT program and I would have no problem with him working on my unit. Nice guy and very knowledgeable.

He has been doing side work and beating prices by half of heating and air business quotes on his installs. If you would like his info shoot me a pm and I'll send it to you.
 
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Orange_Vol1321 said:
I work with a HVACR guy that takes care of the HVAC in a 240,000 sq ft building off Straw Plains exit. He won a lot of different awards while in the HVAC TCAT program and I would have no problem with him working on my unit. Nice guy and very knowledgeable.

He has been doing side work and beating prices by half of heating and air business quotes on his installs. If you would like his info shoot me a pm and I'll send it to you.
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Sounds good.
Once I decide which type of system and brand, most likely will take you up on the offer. Always really appreciate help/advice. Especially from fellow Vol fans.
 
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In the last 3 years, I have installed the ductless mini-split systems in two of our homes. We bought Mitsubishi Mr. Slims. They are the absolute bomb! Super efficient, super quiet. We installed one in each of our living areas (approx 900 sq ft) and one in each of our MBRs. No complaints at all.
 
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Danl said:
In the last 3 years, I have installed the ductless mini-split systems in two of our homes. We bought Mitsubishi Mr. Slims. They are the absolute bomb! Super efficient, super quiet. We installed one in each of our living areas (approx 900 sq ft) and one in each of our MBRs. No complaints at all.
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That's in line with what I've been reading. Truly appreciate reading it from a more trusted source than 'L. Smith, Pittsburgh'

I'm really interested in the idea of *if/when there is a problem, it's one of several units instead of your only unit.
Things go wrong on Friday night of a holiday weekend, being down 1 instead of the only 1, sounds good.
 
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chargervol said:
Sounds good.
Once I decide which type of system and brand, most likely will take you up on the offer. Always really appreciate help/advice. Especially from fellow Vol fans.
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Not a problem. Go ahead and get you some different business quotes also to compare.
 
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Having worked on factory control systems, which share similar components of HVAC systems, for 35 years I would go simple and lower end. Heat pump systems start two electric motors, an inside blower and and an outside compressor. The controls to do this are pretty simple and straightforward to fix.
As you go up in efficiency you go up in complexity. Two speed motors or variable speed motors introduce another level of complexity and expense, both to repair and in reliability and they also cost more initially.
I don't know anything about the zoned systems, but I wouldn't want some big box hanging on my walls.
Of course the major difference between any HVAC system is the company that installs it. I would pick someone that has been in business for 20+ years to install a system versus any other company.
 
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VolStrom said:
Having worked on factory control systems, which share similar components of HVAC systems, for 35 years I would go simple and lower end. Heat pump systems start two electric motors, an inside blower and and an outside compressor. The controls to do this are pretty simple and straightforward to fix.
As you go up in efficiency you go up in complexity. Two speed motors or variable speed motors introduce another level of complexity and expense, both to repair and in reliability and they also cost more initially.
I don't know anything about the zoned systems, but I wouldn't want some big box hanging on my walls.
Of course the major difference between any HVAC system is the company that installs it. I would pick someone that has been in business for 20+ years to install a system versus any other company.
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A package unit eliminates the inside blower unit as it contains all the parts in one outside. As for companies that install it, they can buy a 2ton unit for $2400 with tax. They show up at you door and the unit is already doubled to $4800 before they add on labor. Great business for the owners, not so much the customer.
 
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chargervol said:
After 15 yrs, time to replace our heat pump. The new ductless systems have gained my interest. I'm also still interested in the standard heat/air pump style that I have.

I would really appreciate posts from people that have the ductless and any comments on individual brands of ductless and standard .

If there happens to be a hvac expert around, that would be gold :)
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Are you talking about a mini-split?
 
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chargervol said:
Lol, wut? I've heard how this ends on "Web of lies" :)


Lol
I think you mean the air coming from the single unit. Is it really that different from the single vent in a room?
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No, it's very similar to a wall unit in your average motel.

Are you trying to be more efficient?
 
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InVOLuntary said:
No, it's very similar to a wall unit in your average motel.

Are you trying to be more efficient?
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That's 1 thought I'm having.
My kids, my wife and myself are always in the living room kitchen or media area except when we sleep.

But I also really like the idea of having more than one source in case of inconvenient breakdowns.
I already have 2 gas fire places (real heat producing) to go with my heat pump. I've used them on several occasions during power outages.

The multi units intrigued me.
 
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chargervol said:
That's 1 thought I'm having.
My kids, my wife and myself are always in the living room kitchen or media area except when we sleep.

But I also really like the idea of having more than one source in case of inconvenient breakdowns.
I already have 2 gas fire places (real heat producing) to go with my heat pump. I've used them on several occasions during power outages.

The multi units intrigued me.
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Think about it. You go from one thing to have go down to several. Personally I wouldn't do it. If it were me I would go duel fuel, gas over heat pump. About as efficient as you can get. With the money you save, buy you a Honda 3000 eu generator and have the installer put in a alternate power input for the furnace. It's what I have :).
 
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Really appreciate all the replies and ideas. VN is just so much more than a fb site.
Love this place.
 
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Helped a friend buy his mini split (my previous company sold mainly Mitsubishi)and it worked great. He used it to cool an enclosed sun room. Makes it very convenient if you have limited use of a room or wish to keep it a different temp. The hotel room ability is kinda off the mark. They're popular because of ease of installation and use
 
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chargervol said:
Considering starting with 3 until I know for sure that I will like them.
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One outside unit to serve 3 inside? My wife couldn't get past the looks of the indoor units, so I went with a heat pump in our mountain house that had never had central heat and had no a/c.
 
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utvolpj said:
Helped a friend buy his mini split (my previous company sold mainly Mitsubishi)and it worked great. He used it to cool an enclosed sun room. Makes it very convenient if you have limited use of a room or wish to keep it a different temp. The hotel room ability is kinda off the mark. They're popular because of ease of installation and use
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I have to disagree. The sound is very comparative to a hotel unit. You don't hear the compressor cycle on but the fan is very similar.

Charger, I encourage you to find one installed and experience it for yourself. I would never want one in my bedroom. If you come to Knoxville, I will gladly take you to experience one.
 
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