Heisman Trophies and UT

#52
#52
allvol123 said:
That was practically handed to him before the season started. Individual awards in college football have to got to be some fo the worst awards in sports.
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I don't disagree with you, but it doesn't mean he's a heckuva LB.

Penn State's defensive stats:

Pass: Ranked 47th in D-IA (191.2ypg)
Rush: Ranked 10th in D-IA (87.8ypg)
Score: Ranked 11th in D-IA (14.8ppg)
Total: Ranked 16th in D-IA (279.0ypg)

A very respectable defense.
 
#53
#53
tvolsfan said:
How much better will that be?
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I have no clue, obviously it depends on the young guys and the guys that got all the experience this year. McNeil is going to be a great anchor to build a line around though, that's all I know.
 
#54
#54
OWB said:
Arian just didn't step it up this year. I was one of the people who thought he'd have a big season. I think he can still be a good back for us, but Coker has definitely impressed me more this year. Next year could be totally different though.
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there's no substitute for speed.

thats seems to be the missing intangible for UT running backs the last few years.

how long has it been since UT had a back who could break off a long TD run. Not since Travis Stephens in 01.
 
#55
#55
milohimself said:
I don't disagree with you, but it doesn't mean he's a heckuva LB.

Penn State's defensive stats:

Pass: Ranked 47th in D-IA (191.2ypg)
Rush: Ranked 10th in D-IA (87.8ypg)
Score: Ranked 11th in D-IA (14.8ppg)
Total: Ranked 16th in D-IA (279.0ypg)

A very respectable defense.
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Well, I agree with you as well. I was not taking away from him being a good lb. But these college awards are heavily slanted. Of course I am generalizing, but it is the way I feel about it.
 
#56
#56
milohimself said:
I don't disagree with you, but it doesn't mean he's a heckuva LB.

Penn State's defensive stats:

Pass: Ranked 47th in D-IA (191.2ypg)
Rush: Ranked 10th in D-IA (87.8ypg)
Score: Ranked 11th in D-IA (14.8ppg)
Total: Ranked 16th in D-IA (279.0ypg)

A very respectable defense.
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he has that missing intangible a lot of players dont have when awards are given out....HE'S FROM THE BIG 10.
 
#57
#57
There's a reason I gave this thread a one star ranking. :boredom:

I'm liable to kill somebody next time I hear a Tennessee fan talk about the Heisman...
 
#59
#59
I've never seen a fanbase so besmirched by a meaningless ocurrance between regular season and bowl season...

To most Tennessee fans I've seen, it's just a meaningless trophy that has been continually talked about for 9 years.
 
#63
#63
oklavol said:
there's no substitute for speed.

thats seems to be the missing intangible for UT running backs the last few years.

how long has it been since UT had a back who could break off a long TD run. Not since Travis Stephens in 01.
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If Cedric Houston got into the open field, he was gone.
 
#67
#67
tidwell said:
Don't thye have another stud LB as well? Seems like I heard a few guys say something like, "Yeah, PP is good, but this other LB..."
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Posluszny was the best, but Dan Conner was damn good. Kind of like tOSU last season with Hawk, Carpenter, and Schlegel.
 
#68
#68
VolinArizona said:
Posluszny was the best, but Dan Conner was damn good. Kind of like tOSU last season with Hawk, Carpenter, and Schlegel.
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yeah, #30 if memory serves...PSU has some good LB's and overall are pretty stout on defense.

offensively though, they've struggled. Morelli has not developed like they hoped/thought he would. he's got a strong arm, but accuracy and decision making has, well, been lacking this season.
 
#69
#69
oklavol said:
3 runner-ups, Johnny Majors, Heath Shuler, and Peyton Manning. Manning should have won it. You can thank the sportswriters for their Big 10 bias for that one.
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Hank Lauricella was also a runner up.
 
#71
#71
jakez4ut said:
yeah, #30 if memory serves...PSU has some good LB's and overall are pretty stout on defense.

offensively though, they've struggled. Morelli has not developed like they hoped/thought he would. he's got a strong arm, but accuracy and decision making has, well, been lacking this season.
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Connor is actually number #20 :good!:
 
#74
#74
Heisman Trophies by schools...

Notre Dame 7
Ohio State 7
Southern Cal 7
Oklahoma 4
Army 3
Michigan 3
Nebraska 3
Florida State 2
Auburn 2
Texas 2
Florida 2
Georgia 2
Miami-FL 2
Yale 2
Navy 2
Wisconsin 2
Colorado 1
Chicago 1
Iowa 1
Houston 1
Texas A&M 1
BYU 1
Boston College 1
Minnesota 1
LSU 1
Syracuse 1
South Carolina 1
SMU 1
Princeton 1
Pittsburgh 1
Penn State 1
Oregon State 1
Oklahoma State 1
TCU 1
UCLA 1
Stanford 1​
 
#75
#75
Heisman runnerups by school.....

Oklahoma 5
Tennessee 4
Southern Cal 4
Iowa 4
Notre Dame 3
Army 3
Ohio State 3
Penn State 3
Pittsburgh 3
Purdue 3
Minnesota 2
Tulsa 2
Georgia 2
Nebraska 2
Georgia Tech 2
Michigan 2
North Carolina 2
Columbia 1
Florida State 1
Indiana 1
Cornell 1
Kansas State 1
LSU 1
Maryland 1
Florida 1
Iowa State 1
California 1
Colorado 1
Temple 1
TCU 1
Syracuse 1
Oklahoma State 1
SMU 1
Texas 1
BYU 1
Penn 1
Texas A&M 1
San Diego State 1
Arkansas 1
Stanford 1
 
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