Helmet Communication to Be Allowed in Bowl Games

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In 1956, two Ohio inventors, John Campbell and George Sarles, approached Paul Brown with a radio receiver they had developed. Paul Brown used them in football games then. Now, the sixty seven year old tech gets to college football. Wow, talking about keeping up with the times. BTW, the NFL finally approved the use of the QB radio in 1994. Cutting edge baby 🤣
 
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I honestly don't like it. I give two shirts about tech. It takes strategy and a huge home field advantage away. Let's make the game harder, not easier. Let special people shine, including the signal callers and creators. Hell, let people who can discect calls shine. Just don't do stupid rule breaking like send them around the country and video.
 
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SockeyeVol said:
I think what GAvol is saying is that only the QB will have the radio. So he still has to communicate to his 10 teammates the same as ever.

Are you thinking all 85 guys on the team will have helmet radios? That seems unlikely.
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Do we know that? Honestly, someone will consider it. As others pointed out, it would be a huge bonus for the visiting team not to have to deal with the crowd noise. Newer ain't always better. Kids today would love football the way it used to be officiated and played. Today's version is really watered down in my opinion. Kickoffs, punts, tackling, officiating, rules, etc. It's just far from the game we used to have. Today's game, for lack of a better word, is somewhat sterile in comparison. We've neutered special teams. Tackling is gone. Why stop at earpieces. Let's throw in a helmet screen with AI so it can tell the qb where the blitz is likely coming from and where his best option to throw the ball will be. Sure thing. Gotta stay up with the tech in everything, right?

Heck, just cut to the chase. Let's eliminate human players from the field. Just go ahead and make this the PFL. Playstation Football League. Let the best game players get the contracts instead of the athletes and play the games electronically. Fans can just sit at home and watch games on their computers. No need for stadiums, injuries and fans. I've lived long enough to confirm the old adage is true....you don't know what you got until it's lost.
 
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Michigan already has the engineering and comp science departments working to access and have an algorithm to decrypt the wireless communications
 
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DooleyOrangePants said:
Exactly. It’s not impossible to crack (or hack) encryption keys, but....
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If the technology being used is private key encryption (the electronic successor to one-time pads), it's pretty much impossible to hack in real time. With one exception.

The exception? If someone with access to one team's keying device gives a copy of the private key to the other team.

The NFL figured out how to apply this tech with no trouble; all the NCAA has to do is mirror the pros.
 
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VFL-82-JP said:
If the technology being used is private key encryption (the electronic successor to one-time pads), it's pretty much impossible to hack in real time. With one exception.

The exception? If someone with access to one team's keying device gives a copy of the private key to the other team.

The NFL figured out how to apply this tech with no trouble; all the NCAA has to do is mirror the pros.
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Voltopia said:
More and more like the NFL every day.
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Agree totally, but this one actually makes sense. The whole signals thing is archaic, and the Michigan debacle has made a mockery of the whole process.
 
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Volunteer_Kirby said:
This will include the use of tablets on the sideline.

SIAP merge if necessary
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It boggles my mind that the NCAA hasn't allowed tablets on the sidelines yet. High schools have even been using iPads for almost 10 years on the sidelines. Welcome to the new world NCAA!
 
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volinSmyrna said:
It boggles my mind that the NCAA hasn't allowed tablets on the sidelines yet. High schools have even been using iPads for almost 10 years on the sidelines. Welcome to the new world NCAA!
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I prefer the old world of football.....
 
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SockeyeVol said:
I think what GAvol is saying is that only the QB will have the radio. So he still has to communicate to his 10 teammates the same as ever.

Are you thinking all 85 guys on the team will have helmet radios? That seems unlikely.
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Not sure why they wouldn't do it like the NFL. QB gets a radio, and 1 defensive player (usually the defensive captain?) gets a radio. 2 backups have radios, as well.
 
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GAVol said:
I just asked this but I’ll ask again. How does giving the QB a radio in his helmet Change the impact of crowd noise?
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It makes the QBs’s reception of the play a lot faster, which gives him a longer time to communicate that play to his teammates. Which could make it easier to handle crowd noise
 
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Crowd noise effects audibles, snap count, and concentration along the OL. Coaches aren't yelling out the plays from the sideline now. They are relayed to the entire team, silently. This actually would hurt the team from a noise point of view. If they aren't signing in plays, the QB has to huddle and relay the play to the entire team over the noise. Even with a radio in the QB's helment, we will still see signing in of plays just for this. Especially for our offense, which is no huddle so often.
 
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Alabama still struggling with the whole technology thing. I expect they will have a couple of tin cans connected by a string. Just hope the qb remembers to remove his before the snap 😂
 
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lukeneyland said:
It makes the QBs’s reception of the play a lot faster, which gives him a longer time to communicate that play to his teammates. Which could make it easier to handle crowd noise
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Maybe there's a second or two difference just because it's quicker to talk than to signal. In our case though, I'd bet we continue to use a lot of signals because we don't huddle in the first place.
 
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GAVol said:
Maybe there's a second or two difference just because it's quicker to talk than to signal. In our case though, I'd bet we continue to use a lot of signals because we don't huddle in the first place.
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It’s hard to imagine us completely deviating from hand signaling. I don’t think it eliminates the value of a loud crowd I just think that there will be situations where it reduces its effects.
 
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Why? Is this some sort of attempt at leveling the playing field? What's next? - AI officiating drones? (Which might not be a bad idea).
 
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Because it's on my mind today, I wonder how long until there's an AI camera/computer setup that analyzes all the "Full 22" footage a team has to study against the current defense (or offense) formation to recommend a play.

In the booth, that's what the guys are doing...... "we saw this on film, they're going to blitz the left corner from here most of the time" or "they go deep with this formation 60% of the time, drop the coverage back."

AI could read and analyze formations and offer real-time suggestions much quicker than a guy with a mic and headset.
 
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